what do you think about homosexuality in video gam
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Nintendolover324
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did you know Gracie is a boy and did you know Yoshi is gay with burdo (i think that's spelt wrong) but in one of my Mario bro. booklets for nes that burdo is a boy that thinks he is a girls and later (now) Yoshi is in love with burdo. and on Mario sluggers wii Yoshi super throw is a rainbow powered throw but i think its kind of "cool" that Nintendo shows and has signs toward homosexual acceptanceNintendolover324 said:
Ron Ronaldo
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I really can't see anything wrong with it at all.
Dragorium15
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UltraByte said:
Gracie's a guy. Birdo's a guy. Vivian from Paper Mario 2 is a guy.
Japan is homophobic, so Gracie and Birdo both MOCK homosexuals, but at the same time they have a fascination with androgyny. Vivian, for example, resembles nothing but a girl.
"Nothing wrong with it. I don't mind it at all, if anything, it develops more of a character.
The only reason that it would hurt the game is because parents wouldn't want to buy it for the children."
Being gay doesn't develop character - it makes a character gay. Why does having a different sexuality make you a greater character? It doesn't. It means nothing in a video game, of all places.
It's funny to me, because Japan is mocking the gay community to a point with Gracie Grace - who, although his sexuality is never identified, definitely carries the stigma of a flaming 'gay' fashion designer. Gracie being a giraffe is also funny, because most male giraffes engage in more homosexual sex or "necking" than heterosexual. This could also be a reference.
Birdo's original concept stated that he believed he was a girl named "Birdette". This could allude to transgenders more than homosexuals, because it's an identity thing, not a sexuality thing.
Vivian from Paper Mario 2 is a "bishounen", which in Japanese, refers to a very effeminite guy. It's just a pure case of Japan's fetish with androgyny.
Yoshi, however, is not gay. I don't believe any of the rumors that Yoshi actually LIKES Birdo - Yoshi has no protuding sexuality, as much as you'd like to believe. If he "liked" Birdo in that way, it would be an allusion to guys that fall in love with transgenders or transexuals - again, Birdo thinks he is a girl and posesses all of a girl's qualities. Why WOULDN'T Yoshi be deceived?
Japan is homophobic, so Gracie and Birdo both MOCK homosexuals, but at the same time they have a fascination with androgyny. Vivian, for example, resembles nothing but a girl.
"Nothing wrong with it. I don't mind it at all, if anything, it develops more of a character.
The only reason that it would hurt the game is because parents wouldn't want to buy it for the children."
Being gay doesn't develop character - it makes a character gay. Why does having a different sexuality make you a greater character? It doesn't. It means nothing in a video game, of all places.
It's funny to me, because Japan is mocking the gay community to a point with Gracie Grace - who, although his sexuality is never identified, definitely carries the stigma of a flaming 'gay' fashion designer. Gracie being a giraffe is also funny, because most male giraffes engage in more homosexual sex or "necking" than heterosexual. This could also be a reference.
Birdo's original concept stated that he believed he was a girl named "Birdette". This could allude to transgenders more than homosexuals, because it's an identity thing, not a sexuality thing.
Vivian from Paper Mario 2 is a "bishounen", which in Japanese, refers to a very effeminite guy. It's just a pure case of Japan's fetish with androgyny.
Yoshi, however, is not gay. I don't believe any of the rumors that Yoshi actually LIKES Birdo - Yoshi has no protuding sexuality, as much as you'd like to believe. If he "liked" Birdo in that way, it would be an allusion to guys that fall in love with transgenders or transexuals - again, Birdo thinks he is a girl and posesses all of a girl's qualities. Why WOULDN'T Yoshi be deceived?
ok i just want to be clear so what your saying is that gays should not be in video games and that you don't care for them,what he meant by develops is it makes them more of a creative charterer i fully support gays and i think that gays and transsexuals should appear in games and not to be made fun of by ppl saying they don't want gays in games is like saying i don't want black ppl in games cuz i don't like them and Nintendo is racist, alot of ppl say they want games as realistic as possible and that dose in evolve color sex,and homosexualityTola said:
I'm having difficulty understanding you because you're the most illiterate person I've ever met.blue2kid3 said:
How do you KNOW what he meant? It's a widespread misconception that men wanting to sleep with men possess more character than men who want to sleep with women. People think that being gay develops more character, and I'm not going to try to read into what he said as anything BUT what he said. Stop trying as well.
I never said I don't want gays in video games; I don't want SEXUALITY in video games. Black is a race - homosexuality is a sexuality. Are you seriously comparing an entire race, that had to go through a civil rights movement JUST because of their color, with a bunch of men and women who have a different sexuality than the norm? You can't hide your color in a closet, but you can hide your sexuality. You made a disturbing comparison.
People do not want video games to be realistic - they are escapes from reality. If you want to see more gay, then go to a night club in San Francisco - Nintendo games are certainly not the place. However, I find Birdo's character funny. I find Gracie funny. Stop whining about it.
ok that's just what i was checking i don't want to start fights i have read some of the things you have posted and you have very brilliant views and points i play animal crossing to get away from that i wanted ppls opinions on it and what i was saying in my first quot is that i don't like haters toward any thing your born how your born nothing can change that i just have to keep my guard up on this kind of topic i have dealt with ppl seance the day i realized i didn't really have a true friend and opened his mouth, the reason i want sexuality in video games is so ppl get used to it and stop making fun of them for something you cant changeTola said:
I don't start fights, people like you do; your reactions trigger a conflict.blue2kid3 said:
People don't HATE people for being gay, they HATE the stigma associated with gay people in the media. They also don't like the concept of abnormality. People are sensitive to it, especially because it's often being shoved into people's heads nowadays.
Video games are very good because they take your focus away from real life, and emerse you into another one. Animal Crossing upstarts an entire NEW life for you, as ridiculous as that may sound. This game, in particular, caters to our senses of duty and obligation. However, I do suggest GETTING A REAL JOB as well.
People don't need gay characters in video games to erase stigma - they need to know that homosexuality is just a sexuality - it can't harm them.
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