Thoughts?

You shouldn't be allowed to sell video games to kids if the video games aren't appropriate for them.

But if a parent wants to buy a kid a violent video game, that's their own choice, and as long as it clearly says on the box why the game got the rating, then I really don't give a *censored.3.0* what way the parents want to raise their kids.
 
*Cough* Places like GameStop already require for younger kids to have a parent who can consent for the kid to get a "M" rated games *Cough* We don't *censored.3.0*en need no ******** law for this. And its not the governments job for this its the parents job... They are the ones who need to be monitoring their kids if they don't want to be playing certain video games or movies. All the parents who are wanting this law to take affect or just stupid ignorant parents who don't know how to take care of their own kids very well.
 
David said:
Mojo said:
i think violent video games, especially halo and call of duty should be banned everywhere and for EVERYONE. they encourage violence and aren't healthy for the mind. besides, first person shotters suck
When someone complains about Halo being violent, I know that they're one of those little kids who hasn't even touched another console outside of nintendo.
Oh, so there aren't any M rated games on the Nintendo consoles???
 
Tyeforce said:
I definitely think that the regulation of M-rated video games needs a lot of improving. Now, I may not like M-rated games myself, but I have nothing against them, and I certainly don't think that they should be downright banned. But they do need to be restricted from children. It's unbelievable what I see everyday at work. Little kids, no older than 7 or 8, having their parents buy them these ultra violent games with adult themes and situations... It's ridiculous. And I can't do a damn thing about it, because as long as the parent has an ID, I have to sell it to them. The problem is that some parents just don't give a damn about what their children play, which is really unfortunate. These little kids are probably going home and calling people *****es and telling them to *censored.3.0* off on Xbox Live while shooting them in a violent rage. Not exactly the best lifestyle for a 7-year-old, don't you think? Just think of how these kids are going to turn out when they're older. No, I'm not saying that they're going to become thieves and murderers from the overly violent games. But being introduced to these kind of games at that young of an age certainly isn't going to affect them in a positive way. Maybe when they're at least in their teens it won't be so much of a concern, but even then it's still too young for a lot of people. That's why the 17+ age restriction should be enforced much better.
on the topic of you, tye, (since you sell them and all) would you be able to simply state what the game's rating is and what the box says it is/was for to the parents, such as "You understand that your child would not be able to buy this game by himself, due to the (violence, blood & gore, language, sexual themes, comic mischief, etc) that is stated clearly on this box, correct?"

or would that just piss off the *censored.2.0*ty parents/get you in trouble? i mean.. it's just stating what's on the box, and it's not like you're refusing to sell it to them or anything.
 
I've seen Gamestop employees say stuff like that, and strongly try to persuade the parents not to buy ultra violent games with cussing and sex and drugs. The parents don't get made. They really could care less.
 
Comatose said:
I've seen Gamestop employees say stuff like that, and strongly try to persuade the parents not to buy ultra violent games with cussing and sex and drugs. The parents don't get made. They really could care less.
in which case, it again falls onto the shoulders of the parents.

it would just be a way to make sure the parents know what they're giving their kids, instead of complaining about it, later.
 
Psychonaut said:
Tyeforce said:
I definitely think that the regulation of M-rated video games needs a lot of improving. Now, I may not like M-rated games myself, but I have nothing against them, and I certainly don't think that they should be downright banned. But they do need to be restricted from children. It's unbelievable what I see everyday at work. Little kids, no older than 7 or 8, having their parents buy them these ultra violent games with adult themes and situations... It's ridiculous. And I can't do a damn thing about it, because as long as the parent has an ID, I have to sell it to them. The problem is that some parents just don't give a damn about what their children play, which is really unfortunate. These little kids are probably going home and calling people *****es and telling them to *censored.3.0* off on Xbox Live while shooting them in a violent rage. Not exactly the best lifestyle for a 7-year-old, don't you think? Just think of how these kids are going to turn out when they're older. No, I'm not saying that they're going to become thieves and murderers from the overly violent games. But being introduced to these kind of games at that young of an age certainly isn't going to affect them in a positive way. Maybe when they're at least in their teens it won't be so much of a concern, but even then it's still too young for a lot of people. That's why the 17+ age restriction should be enforced much better.
on the topic of you, tye, (since you sell them and all) would you be able to simply state what the game's rating is and what the box says it is/was for to the parents, such as "You understand that your child would not be able to buy this game by himself, due to the (violence, blood & gore, language, sexual themes, comic mischief, etc) that is stated clearly on this box, correct?"

or would that just piss off the *censored.2.0*ty parents/get you in trouble? i mean.. it's just stating what's on the box, and it's not like you're refusing to sell it to them or anything.
Yeah, doing something like that could definitely piss off the customer. These parents know that the game is rated M, and they know that it contains adult content not suitable for children because I have to ask them for their ID and there's a big *censored.3.0*ing ESRB sign right above my register that explains the rating system. They just don't care. Trying to convince them otherwise is just going to piss them off and could possibly put my job on the line.

The prohibition of M-rated games from anyone under 17 needs to be enforced more like tobacco and alcohol are. Yes, minors still find ways to get ahold of tobacco and alcohol, but it's nowhere near as easy as it is to get M-rated games. If parent tries to purchase a pack of beer for their child and it's obvious, they're not going to get away with it. But when a parent goes to buy an M-rated game for their child, all they have to do is show their ID, even if it's obvious that they're buying it for their child, not themselves, and they can get it with no problem at all. It really pisses me off when a parent has their kid hand me an M-rated game (that the kid is very obviously excited about, no less) and even pay for it with the kid's gift card, and then they have the nerve to tell me that it's for them, the parent. And there's nothing I can do about it except give them the game.
 
Tyeforce said:
Psychonaut said:
Tyeforce said:
I definitely think that the regulation of M-rated video games needs a lot of improving. Now, I may not like M-rated games myself, but I have nothing against them, and I certainly don't think that they should be downright banned. But they do need to be restricted from children. It's unbelievable what I see everyday at work. Little kids, no older than 7 or 8, having their parents buy them these ultra violent games with adult themes and situations... It's ridiculous. And I can't do a damn thing about it, because as long as the parent has an ID, I have to sell it to them. The problem is that some parents just don't give a damn about what their children play, which is really unfortunate. These little kids are probably going home and calling people *****es and telling them to *censored.3.0* off on Xbox Live while shooting them in a violent rage. Not exactly the best lifestyle for a 7-year-old, don't you think? Just think of how these kids are going to turn out when they're older. No, I'm not saying that they're going to become thieves and murderers from the overly violent games. But being introduced to these kind of games at that young of an age certainly isn't going to affect them in a positive way. Maybe when they're at least in their teens it won't be so much of a concern, but even then it's still too young for a lot of people. That's why the 17+ age restriction should be enforced much better.
on the topic of you, tye, (since you sell them and all) would you be able to simply state what the game's rating is and what the box says it is/was for to the parents, such as "You understand that your child would not be able to buy this game by himself, due to the (violence, blood & gore, language, sexual themes, comic mischief, etc) that is stated clearly on this box, correct?"

or would that just piss off the *censored.2.0*ty parents/get you in trouble? i mean.. it's just stating what's on the box, and it's not like you're refusing to sell it to them or anything.
Yeah, doing something like that could definitely piss off the customer. These parents know that the game is rated M, and they know that it contains adult content not suitable for children because I have to ask them for their ID and there's a big *censored.3.0*ing ESRB sign right above my register that explains the rating system. They just don't care. Trying to convince them otherwise is just going to piss them off and could possibly put my job on the line.

The prohibition of M-rated games from anyone under 17 needs to be enforced more like tobacco and alcohol are. Yes, minors still find ways to get ahold of tobacco and alcohol, but it's nowhere near as easy as it is to get M-rated games. If parent tries to purchase a pack of beer for their child and it's obvious, they're not going to get away with it. But when a parent goes to buy an M-rated game for their child, all they have to do is show their ID, even if it's obvious that they're buying it for their child, not themselves, and they can get it with no problem at all. It really pisses me off when a parent has their kid hand me an M-rated game (that the kid is very obviously excited about, no less) and even pay for it with the kid's gift card, and then they have the nerve to tell me that it's for them, the parent. And there's nothing I can do about it except give them the game.
I wouldn't compare it to alcohol or tobacco.. but i do think that in younger kids (10 & under, possibly ~13/14 as well) shouldn't be able to play some M rated games. others are rated M for other things, such as being creepy as hell or whatever, not so much violent & offensive/foul mouthed.

but it's at the discretion of the parent i guess, same as alcohol/drinking to some extent.

it's just BS whenever those parents choose to *censored.4.0* and moan about their kids playing offensive games/learning foul language, when they should have paid more attention to begin with.

but eh.
 
David said:
Mojo said:
i think violent video games, especially halo and call of duty should be banned everywhere and for EVERYONE. they encourage violence and aren't healthy for the mind. besides, first person shotters suck
When someone complains about Halo being violent, I know that they're one of those little kids who hasn't even touched another console outside of nintendo.

Aren't healthy for the mind? What's healthy for the mind then? Jumping on mushroom shaped marshmallows, if anything, fps games are better for you because they require some skill and thinking, not just in the gameplay, but in the stories they offer as well.

First person shooters suck? Well that's a pretty ignorant thing to say.
lol wrong! I have played a lot of non nintendo games, but not the rated M games.
 
Mojo said:
David said:
Mojo said:
i think violent video games, especially halo and call of duty should be banned everywhere and for EVERYONE. they encourage violence and aren't healthy for the mind. besides, first person shotters suck
When someone complains about Halo being violent, I know that they're one of those little kids who hasn't even touched another console outside of nintendo.

Aren't healthy for the mind? What's healthy for the mind then? Jumping on mushroom shaped marshmallows, if anything, fps games are better for you because they require some skill and thinking, not just in the gameplay, but in the stories they offer as well.

First person shooters suck? Well that's a pretty ignorant thing to say.
lol wrong! I have played a lot of non nintendo games, but not the rated M games.
So how do you know that (last time editing, heh.) Halo sucks?
 
Mojo said:
David said:
Mojo said:
i think violent video games, especially halo and call of duty should be banned everywhere and for EVERYONE. they encourage violence and aren't healthy for the mind. besides, first person shotters suck
When someone complains about Halo being violent, I know that they're one of those little kids who hasn't even touched another console outside of nintendo.

Aren't healthy for the mind? What's healthy for the mind then? Jumping on mushroom shaped marshmallows, if anything, fps games are better for you because they require some skill and thinking, not just in the gameplay, but in the stories they offer as well.

First person shooters suck? Well that's a pretty ignorant thing to say.
lol wrong! I have played a lot of non nintendo games, but not the rated M games.
"In other words I'm just digging a deeper hole"
 
Bacon Boy said:
Mochacho said:
I think violence in video games is bad for the mind, but they shouldn't ban games with violence. It'll cause even more violence in the world, cuz peopl will go mad trying to bring the back. Plus, Halo and Modern Warfare are awesome.
They wouldn't ban them forever, just restrict younger kids from getting them, and deciding what goes in the games, and putting stricter laws out there.

It's not about the matter of the younger kids getting them, it's the matter of the government dipping their grimy hands in video games, restricting content, and violating the first amendment.

And it's the same thing as watching a violent movie, but people treat them differently. People treat games worse than movies.
Mkay. Guess I was a bit off. Or way off. But very nice point.
 
Thunderstruck said:
Mojo said:
David said:
Mojo said:
i think violent video games, especially halo and call of duty should be banned everywhere and for EVERYONE. they encourage violence and aren't healthy for the mind. besides, first person shotters suck
When someone complains about Halo being violent, I know that they're one of those little kids who hasn't even touched another console outside of nintendo.

Aren't healthy for the mind? What's healthy for the mind then? Jumping on mushroom shaped marshmallows, if anything, fps games are better for you because they require some skill and thinking, not just in the gameplay, but in the stories they offer as well.

First person shooters suck? Well that's a pretty ignorant thing to say.
lol wrong! I have played a lot of non nintendo games, but not the rated M games.
So how do you know that (last time editing, heh.) Halo sucks?
I never said Halo sucks. I said all first person shooters suck. they are very violent, boring, and repetitive.
 
Mojo said:
Thunderstruck said:
Mojo said:
David said:
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lol wrong! I have played a lot of non nintendo games, but not the rated M games.
So how do you know that (last time editing, heh.) Halo sucks?
I never said Halo sucks. I said all first person shooters suck. they are very violent, boring, and repetitive.
Which FPS have you played?
 
Thunderstruck said:
Mojo said:
Thunderstruck said:
Mojo said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
So how do you know that (last time editing, heh.) Halo sucks?
I never said Halo sucks. I said all first person shooters suck. they are very violent, boring, and repetitive.
Which FPS have you played?
none. they just look really boring and unoriginal. I like bright and colorful games like mario, animal crossing, and kirby.
 
Mojo said:
Thunderstruck said:
Mojo said:
Thunderstruck said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I never said Halo sucks. I said all first person shooters suck. they are very violent, boring, and repetitive.
Which FPS have you played?
none. they just look really boring and unoriginal. I like bright and colorful games like mario, animal crossing, and kirby.
You can't really tell whether a game is good or bad by... Not even playing :/ Ever heard of the phrase "Don't judge a book by it's cover"?
 
Thunderstruck said:
Mojo said:
Thunderstruck said:
Mojo said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
Which FPS have you played?
none. they just look really boring and unoriginal. I like bright and colorful games like mario, animal crossing, and kirby.
You can't really tell whether a game is good or bad by... Not even playing :/ Ever heard of the phrase "Don't judge a book by it's cover"?
lol that bs phrase is SO overused. I just dont like the look of it. when i play games i imagine mario, sonic, kirby...all the fun bight colored game characters....not ugly dark characters like master chief.
 
Mojo said:
Thunderstruck said:
Mojo said:
Thunderstruck said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
none. they just look really boring and unoriginal. I like bright and colorful games like mario, animal crossing, and kirby.
You can't really tell whether a game is good or bad by... Not even playing :/ Ever heard of the phrase "Don't judge a book by it's cover"?
lol that bs phrase is SO overused. I just dont like the look of it. when i play games i imagine mario, sonic, kirby...all the fun bight colored game characters....not ugly dark characters like master chief.
It's probably overused because too many people are judging books by it's cover.

Please tell me your not a fanboy.

EDIT: You're* ACK
 
Thunderstruck said:
Mojo said:
Thunderstruck said:
Mojo said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
You can't really tell whether a game is good or bad by... Not even playing :/ Ever heard of the phrase "Don't judge a book by it's cover"?
lol that bs phrase is SO overused. I just dont like the look of it. when i play games i imagine mario, sonic, kirby...all the fun bight colored game characters....not ugly dark characters like master chief.
It's probably overused because too many people are judging books by it's cover.

Please tell me your not a fanboy.

EDIT: You're* ACK
lol yeah im kind of a fanboy. but I do like playing some other non nintendo games, especially little big planet because it's like mario. but yeah....nintendo is the best...facts prove it
 
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