Things you shouldn't joke about?
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Lol or stop caring and toughen up xD
amanda1983
Senior Member
Hate speech and hate crimes are illegal in at least my state (Victoria) of Australia. We have had no particular issue with balancing the legalities with civil liberties. Sure, there are still some who moan about how that slipperly slope.. but that is part of the natural checks and balances that keep things from going to any extreme. These laws are managed appropriately and hardly bought out whenever someone says something you don't like. There are clear definitions and the focus is on the public good. It's not in our interest to give a platform to, for example, KKK members advocating Victorians kick out ethnic minorities... so why should they be allowed to come into our community and spread hate?
Other places are welcome to do things differently, that's their business. But I'm glad I live in a community that sets a minimum standard of conduct when in a public forum. We've gotten those date-rape advocates kicked out (as a threat to public safety as the techniques taught are NOT legal here), as well as that American who claims that abortion gives you breast cancer (as that is not medically nor scientifically sound information and she is not qualified to speak on the subject). Sure, people can say whatever they want - and so can I. If some ****wit wants to hold a seminar to teach people to break the law? Yeah, nah. I'm free to say NO. I'm free to protest, sign petitions, write to government representatives and businesses that support that imdividual or group. And they, of course, are all free to ignore me. But if enough people care, and say NO, then the answer is no. Not in our state. Often, not in our country. Visas don't have to be granted for someone intending to do harm to society, and my view they shouldn't be. Most countries routinely screen visa applicants to assess their suitability for entering the country, including those planning to speak publicly or at private events.
We don't have a constitutional right to "freedom of speech" (ie, freedom from being persecuted by the government) here. We do have this effectively guaranteed in other ways, within the boundaries of being part of a civilised society. No one in the US is allowed to walk into a crowded building and yell "fire" unless they have actual reason to believe there is a fire (or another emergency under certain circumstances, if a fire would cause less panic than the truth). No one can outline in detail a wish to kill or injure another person without consequence.
As a society, you've determined that certain speech is not permitted, or only allowed with certain boundaries. Mine has different boundaries, and that's okay. I won't try and suggest that our murder rate, especially gun crimes, are so low only because of our laws against hate speech, as there is a lot more going on to explain that difference.
But it works for us.
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Jokes that throw marginalized groups under the bus for the sake of your own fun, and traumatic events if you haven't personally experienced them and cannot justify it as being a coping mechanism. I think there are some things that should be left alone for the sake of respect.
i guess the girl who persuaded her boyfriend to kill himself and got jail time for it should be free :/
This sounds stupid but I think that adding a bit of humour to things actually helps serious topics. In a world full of terrible people doing terrible things sometimes it is nice to just sit back and spew some garbage every now and then to get a good laugh.
KaydeeKrunk
The Late Great Turt
Religion. But honestly I don't even like talking about religion unless someone asks me about mine.
And like most people already said it depends on the audience fully, don't joke about something that could be offensive to someone you're telling it to.
And like most people already said it depends on the audience fully, don't joke about something that could be offensive to someone you're telling it to.
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Fantasyrick
What’s up boo!
Do you every think before you post?
Everything is going to be joked about, whether you think they shouldn't be joked about or not. We all have sensitive topics but we have to brush them off because there's always going to be jokes about everything.
(edit) I'm kind of repeating myself but yeah.
(edit) I'm kind of repeating myself but yeah.
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hm tricky question, anything sexist/racist shouldnt be joked about (although there are very few ppl who can make pretty funny jokes on those topics) everything else is fair game, but i think the real thing about controversial jokes are how well you can pull it off, like i already stated, very few people can actually pull off jokes about touchy subjects.
LinkToTheWorld
The past is obdurate
I think 'jokes' putting people down for whatever reason can't really be considered funny....racism/homophobia/disability....all considered fair game by some. A lot of the time they hide behind it being 'free speech'. It's just where do you draw the line between free speech and hate speech. When does making a joke about a black person start becoming funny rather than making you a racist?
visibleghost
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um so you seem to think that disabled and neurodivergent people aren't treated badly because of their neurodivergence/disability..? which isn't the case but yeah whatever i'll just tell you why joking about it makes it worse
it makes people think it's ok to treat disabled and neurodivergent people like crap. many jokes are ableist af and they just contribitute to the bullying and hatred of disabled and mentally ill ppl.
it makes ppl think more negatively of those ppl. also adds on to stereotypes.
also it contribitutes to the othering of disabled and neurodivergent ppl.
it depends on the joke, but jokes about mental illness, disabilities, etc where the punchline is, like, "oh they're autistic XD" and thr autism part is funny?? like no that's not ok. anything that puts disabled and neurodivergent ppl down is not cool and also sucky af
personally, i think people should be able to joke about ignorance, lack of intelligence and perspective, however i'm really struggling to find a nearby example to support my opinion ...
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KaydeeKrunk
The Late Great Turt
It's only ok if it's your own. TBH
LinkToTheWorld
The past is obdurate
Would challenge the ever so clever individual who thinks hate speech hurts nobody. I've worked with disabled children since I left school myself, I have a disabled sister with special needs. Do you not think it hurts when somebody is standing pointing and laughing at her? Because they've made such a funny joke. And yes it hurts her, not just me. Toughen up...seriously. I've had to be tough with the life I've had but I'm not about to make excuses for ignorant people who are so mindless they can find humour at the expense of somebody else.
MozzarellaSticks
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You can joke about anything. Whether the joke is funny and well received is a different story.
