hahahahahahaha. no one should ever have to integrate. dont you think that being able to love yourself, your heritage, and your culture is important? i certainly hold that at a higher standard that being able to assimilate.
Integrating doesn't mean giving up your entire past and person. It means accepting the new country's rules, learning the language and customs. I still enjoy things from my own culture even while I have integrated.
The kind of people I talk about negatively are the people that have lived in a country for 20+ years and, for example, can't speak the language one bit. Either they should learn the language or go back to their own country. Poles are the main offenders in this country.
This was a legit concern brought up by politicians here in The Netherlands over a decade ago. New laws were passed, and now we have courses for migrants to take so they can learn the language, the history, and some of our culture. But at no point are they told they have to abandon their culture or religion. Going through this helps them to get jobs, schooling, and so forth, and it helps the country by turning them into a functioning part of society. It's a win-win. This is the kind of integration I was talking about.
i said that muslims should not have to accept having little to no religious freedom because there is less of them, and if youll look back, i also said that no one else should have to either. its simply not something i can support. regardless of your religion, you should be allowed to practice your religion however youd like. putting other countries into the argument doesnt make what france did any better, and its time we change our personalities rather than justifying actions by calling out other negative actions.
The ban applies to things that cover the face. That's burqas and niqabs, but also things like balaclavas and masks, and even fursuits. Hijabs and chadors are still allowed and worn in France. The reason faces can't be covered is just a security concern, as it hinders facial identification.
Admittedly it started with Sarkozy's comments on religious attire, but the eventual law that they passed doesn't apply just to Muslims. And in the end, it's a means of protecting the people of France - including the Muslims.
You can read more about the law on
this Wikipedia page.
i also said that in situations like these, muslims have no freedom unless they force the idea that they too are people onto people who refuse to see them as anything other than hostile animals, not "forcing freedom" upon them. sorry if i was unclear.
Any people that can think clearly know that Muslims are people - and that speaks volumes about a part of Western society. In the last week there have been various reports of people threatening and attacking Muslims in retaliation for the Paris attacks. That's unacceptable.
again, my point against your whole ideology, not just a snippet of it, is that you cannot expect people to give up whole parts of themselves to blend into a new population, and itd be wrong to do so. christians and muslims alike do not deserve to have religious freedom taken from them.
I hope my statements earlier in this post will clear up what I meant. Basically: nobody has to give up their person and culture, they should be able to practice their religion as freely as possible, and they should accept the rules of the country they're in.
A lot of noise is being made for the rights of a certain group of people in certain countries. I think noise should be made to give people the same rights across the world. Until we can achieve that, there are some rules that people of certain religious persuasions have to follow in specific countries.
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Yo, sorry for being a lazy arse but can anyone update me on the whole situation since the Paris attacks? I'm sure it'd be useful for others, too.
There was a bomb scare in Hannover at a soccer match, though reports now say that it was a real threat. The information given to German intelligence by French intelligence had concrete evidence an attack was being planned there.
Brussels has been in lockdown since yesterday afternoon, after concrete evidence emerged that an attack was planned there. Police and military are on the streets, and the metro system has been shut down. People are advised to stay home, and not to gather in large groups.
Raids have been carried out in both Belgium and France to capture more suspects. Some of those (around 10, if I remember correctly) have already been charged with terrorism.
The planner of various terrorist attacks in France was found to have participated in the Paris attacks. They traced him to the Saint Denis house of his niece which they raided last Wednesday. An unidentified man blew himself up with a bomb vest, killing the niece. The planner was killed in the firefight.
One of the terrorists is still on the run, and reported to be in or around Molenbeek in Belgium. Apparently he was supposed to use his bomb vest but chickened out. He's now on the run from both the police and the daesh.
There's a rise in hate-crimes and threats against Muslims in Western countries. Basically it's morons taking out their anger on the wrong people.
France has intensified strikes in Syria, and a coalition is starting to form which also includes Russia. Raqqa (the de facto capital of the ISIS caliphate) has been cut off from the rest of Syria, as well as Iraq, thanks to coordinated efforts by the coalition and the Kurd ground troops. Sadly a hospital run by MSF was bombed as well, killing two.
What the coalition with Russia will do is still unknown. The West wants Assad gone while Russia still supports Assad.
And France is now preparing antidotes in case terrorists have managed to get their hands on chemical or biological weapons.
I might have missed something, but I think that's most of it.
