Terrorist Attacks in Paris

In case anyone else knows people in the area, you can see on fb how many of them have declared themselves safe. You will see how many of your friends have marked themselves as safe and who.
If they haven't you can request that they do.

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I think it's pretty sad that people see the current terrorist threat as the biggest problem here. After this is all gone, the government will help paris-centre get it's tourism back and everyhting will be back to 'normal'. When people hear 'Paris', they only think about the city centre, the Eiffel Tower, Arc de Triomphe, ect.

Did you guys ever hear anything about the banlieues of Paris? Neighbourhoods where also millions of people live but were never anything reaches the news? Paris' banlieues are on of the most dangerous neighbourhoods in whole Europe. Ambulances don't even go there. But why would anyone care right? Strikes for better life circumstances in these neighbourhoods have been going on as long as the city excists but nobody cares.

To be clear. If you're now assuming I don't care about this terror, then you decided that for yourself and not due my comment because I didn't spill a word about not caring about these terrorist attacks. I care as much about these horrific situations in Paris as I care about these horrific situations anywhere else in this world. But the media decides to give undivided and politically and religiously influenced opinions and attention to these kind of happenings.
 
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Did you guys ever hear anything about the banlieues of Paris? Neighbourhoods where also millions of people live but were never anything reaches the news? Paris' banlieues are on of the most dangerous neighbourhoods in whole Europe. Ambulances don't even go there. But why would anyone care right? Strikes for better life circumstances in these neighbourhoods have been going on as long as the city excists but nobody cares.
These kinds of neighborhoods have started to pop up in other cities as well, with the most talked about one(s) being located in Stockholm. Because those are more recent, they receive more attention, but I hope that the same kind of attention is then given to the French suburbs. And the proper attention needs to be given, because with the people in these regions feeling and being treated like outcasts, it is a prime place to hunt for individuals that can be radicalized.
 
According to CNN, ISIS has taken responsibility for the attack.

Oh, figures.
I had been thinking about that for a little bit before I actually saw this message, thinking they might try to take the blame and the mass media try to pin it on them. Isn't that kinda what they want? It could be some other random underground group that committed this for all I know. I mean there's a pretty good positional difference between France and their hotspots.

And yeah, it's a complex scenario, but it's still one city. It's possible.
 
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It almost sounds like 9/11.

not really. the weight of the factors is far different. both are terrible but what needs to be done fro here on out needs to be different that what happened after 9/11.

how extremists can hurt innocent people makes little sense to me; how does this attack firther their goals? what is the motivation? what did they gain?

how is it that people can be so selfish that they can go in and shoot people down.

i agree about the banlieus of paris point - when the smaller people are in trouble people dont seem to care as much.

france needs greater national security and this whole ordeal is a huge travesty.



im a little bit worried about the political aspect of it - when 9/11 happened i was just 1, and im muslim. ive had to grow up with the weight of islamophobia linked to fear of terrorists for my whole life. i know that there are muslims in france and i am certain that there will be people who will forget that these terrorists are extremists and muslims are not to blame.
 
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Posting a source for the ISIS claiming responsibility, since no one else has.

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"In an online statement distributed by supporters Saturday, ISIS said eight militants wearing explosive belts and armed with machine guns attacked precisely selected areas in the French capital. "
 
how extremists can hurt innocent people makes little sense to me; how does this attack firther their goals? what is the motivation? what did they gain?
The only thing they stand to gain from it is fear. That's all they want, and that's all that organized terrorism is. With this attack they wanted people to become afraid of even going out and doing things for fun. Look at the places they attacked: a cafe, a bistro, two restaurants, a stadium, and a concert hall. All places people go to have fun. This was not an attack on a country's economic or political system, but an attack on the freedom of its residents.
 
i cant even go through social media tags without getting annoyed. people need to remember that right now is a state of panic, distress, and mourning. it is not the time to be pointing fingers about how poorly our society handles social injustice on a regular basis, cause we all know it handles it poorly.
 
One of my supervisors is in Paris now, she's staying a hotel about 5 minutes away from the football stadium... It was all panic on my Facebook last night as everyone was desperately trying to contact her, family, friends and colleagues, no one had heard anything from her after she posted about arriving at her hotel. This morning we had a team meeting (after our other supervisors and manager had had an emergency meeting) telling us her family had heard nothing and that if she contacts any of us to let them know and not spread rumours, etc. In this kind of situation you always think the worst, everyone was out of it today.

Until literally two hours ago that she marked herself safe on Facebook, she (and other tourists) had to be moved out of her hotel and she was too busy keeping herself safe to contact anyone. I'm really glad she's safe.
 
What happens when you go in and leave a country in shambles? ISIS was formed as a response to the instability.

Russia/USSR obviously isn't perfect, but I've heard they've killed more ISIS members than the U.S has. Though I heard that's because they classify anyone anti Assad as ISIS, but I haven't looked much into those reports yet.

Regardless, they formed because of the U.S causing instability in the region. This is just an after effect of the U.S going in and ruining places as usual.

ISIS isn't going to die anytime soon. Their attacks are just growing more extreme, and they want the west to become paranoid of muslims. That just leads more muslims to their cause.
It goes back further than the U.S. killing suspected ISIS members. It goes back to the Cold War. Which goes back to WWII. Which goes back to WWI. You can't simplify it to just, "the U.S. destroyed them." Nothing in the world is that simple. It's too complex to simplify. There's no doubt the U.S. played a major role in the current state of the Middle East, but you can't just blindly see that and ignore other factors. You won't solve anything like that.

Russia currently is very hush hush about how they handle ISIS. They hide a lot. But they're currently more concerned with former satellite nations and recontrol of them. Kind of scary we turn a blind eye. But that's far off topic.

Our best combat against ISIS is rebuilding the Middle East. But that will take a long time. Tradition and belief runs deep, and it's going to take a very long time for people to learn anything new. Especially with the fighting still going on. It's hard to focus on rebuilding when you're immediate concern is not getting caught in the crossfire.

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The problem with fighting terrorist groups is that they are idealist groups. Killing the idea itself is very hard. By killing key meme bets you also make martyrs. It's not really possible to go to war with an idea. Especially with so many innocents involved and close by.

What if we took in the young muslims that go into ISIS that feel as if they have no other choice? Give them different ideas before they're given those terrible ideals? Wouldn't that at least weaken ISIS? Apparently president Obama is saying ISIS was contained the day before the attacks (so yesterday my time) does this mean it wasn't ISIS or it was and it's a last attack before they're taken out? This is all just confusing and I feel like a scared, lost child. Which I'm sure is how horrible terrorists aim to make people feel.
They have. They have stopped several potential people from joining. It doesn't stop people. There are many radical things that people will continue to do and join.

There are also forced members of ISIS. We forget that they kidnap women and children for a purpose. We cannot ignore these members.

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The whole world should team up and attack them.. This means war! I can't stand it, too many people are dying...
We already declared war.

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ISIS has a history of claiming their own attacks, but also other's attacks. There are quite a few terrorist groups. I wouldn't fully trust everything you hear just yet. Give it some time to settle and be investigated.
 
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I'm really scared that they'll come for us now.. Are they? I'm shaking right now.
 
This thread is definitely revealing who I never would want to hold a conversation with.


Anyway, I think all brown people (Muslims especially) can relate to that sinking feeling every time something like this happens. Yesterday was an absolutely terrible day for the world. I'm praying for everyone affected, and for every brown person who is about to receive the aftermath from islamaphobes.
 
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