TBT Brawl Power Rankings

[Rust]

I'm nineteen >=P

Tidus even said it last page <3

And how about I just show you my main. One round of him and then will you be happy? =[

 

[cornymikey]

Not to be rude, Mike, but with such terrible matchups and me still winning it's kinda just like "bleh." =(

Talk is cheap but you're just saying cause you want to know who my main is. Admit it, you're curious <3

but why is olimar a bad match up?

Olimar
Chance: 30-70
Description: Insane range, great projectiles, kills rollout and any of your approaches with side-smash, up-smash, and B-up. Olimar forces you to approach him instead of the other way around because of his B-side, where he throws Pikmin all over you. Try to just jump fairly high and approach him diagonally, using dair as a fairly safe method of approach. Make sure to be rising in the meantime because if you land next to him, you are screwed over. This is one of Jigglypuff's worst matchups. You do not want to hit the ground very often in close range of Olimar or cross directly over him unless if you are using pound (it neutralizes the Pikmin in the attack, so you get no damage and kill a Pikmin). Still, anything on the ground is fairly bad and he is only slightly weak behind him, in which case grab him.If you land near him, OoS nair and retreat immediately. Once he is off-stage and cannot recover with just a jump and an air-dodge, you MUST NOT LET HIM RECOVER. Off-stage Wall of Pain, edgehog, and renew invincibility frames to the max, and make sure to press a right when he uses B-up so he doesn't get the ledge but you don't get hurt (practice the timing). Your only chance and the way you will not need to get a new main for Olimar is to abuse his recovery to the max, literally do not let him recover when he cannot do so without his B-up ever. Watch out for his Pikmin throw if he has a purple pikmin, as it will knock you off the ledge so he can grab it. If you do so, you will have a small chance in winning, and if he does get his tether, try stage-spiking him (fairing him into the base of the stage for a spike before he can retract it and grab the ledge). You will lose against a decent Olimar if you do not capitalize on his mediocre recovery. While onstage, DI back and forth viciously, it is a crucial advantage Jigglypuff has. Try to get hits on him and once you get the lead, go below the stage and essentially ledge-stall while staying below the ledge the entire time, so you grab the ledge below it and under the stage. This was Olimar has no way to punish you and at the very least, you can win due to a 7 minute stall out. This works best on Smashville and Battlefield, both stages where if you so much as touch the diagonal part under the stage, you grab the ledge, but it does not leave you vulnerable whatsoever to someone with such a mediocre recovery. Be very careful not to land whatsoever near Olimar, and if you do, jump and nair quickly and try to get back. You essentially want to force him into the air where she can easily beat him out. But if is on the ground, watch out. Rising pounds can work fairly well in this matchup, but you have to DI away so your not in the range of his U-smash. When you are in the air, you dominate if you are below him but are in trouble if he is above you. Use your amazing DI so you never get uaired, cause otherwise it is very painful. Overall in the air, Jigglypuff has a fairly strong advantage. For stages, Jigglypuff really is going to have difficulty. Battlefield and Corneria both completely dominate us without planking, but you are essentially forced to ban Corneria. Make sure you do not start out on Battlefield or Cruise and you might have a chance to win this matchup. Olimar does terrible compared to Jigglypuff on Rainbow Cruise and Frigate Orpheon, so Olimar will ban 1. This makes it so if you win the first match, you can actually win the overall set but thats the real difficulty. Try to start out on Yoshi's Island or Smashville, however, be warned that the ghost can benefit Olimar more than you by saving him when he shouldn't have lived. On Smashville, plank if you are allowed to and use the platform and the stage layout to try to force him off-stage. Smaller stages help Jigglypuff here because once Olimar is off-stage, she actually has a chance in the matchup. And since Olimar will camp in the middle, its fairly hard to do so.

This is why. Taken from a very good guide made by one of the best pro Jiggs out there. <333 illinialex ^_^

well, im not gonna read that. but thats why I want battlefield. :/
MK and olimar are both better on battlefield than on FD.

 

[Tidus Strife]

Not to be rude, Mike, but with such terrible matchups and me still winning it's kinda just like "bleh." =(

Talk is cheap but you're just saying cause you want to know who my main is. Admit it, you're curious <3

but why is olimar a bad match up?

Saying Olimar is 70-30 is GENEROUS towards Puff. I don't see how it's less than 80-20. Olimar's everything outranges Puffs everything. It's practically impossible to get a clean rest, you you're relying on moves like dash, fsmash, or sweetspotted FAir to get a kill. Chances are if you don't get the edgehog, which a good olimar will prevent you from getting, that olimar is living till 120+. Where as Jigglypuff is retardedly light and will die from BThrow, DThrow, FThrow, or any smash quite easily.

EDIT: There is no bad MK stage. I've spent time playing MK. THE ONLY STAGES MK IS BAD ON ARE BANNED.

 

[John102]

rust, why'd you quit so early? and i hate final destination. i cant believe you got it twice.

@john, im not trying to be rude...

I know, my self esteem is low enough though, it doesn't need to go any lower.

why? cause rust beat you?
brawl? I could use some just for lulz matches.

ditto, i'm tired of getting my ass whupped by 12 year old girls.

heh, me too. I would have been satisfied if I got like 5 matches. I like to use all my mains before someone leaves.

hey, i told you that I'm just bad against your IC and olimar, the good brawlers won't take no crap though. You should've went strait to meta.

 

[cornymikey]

Not to be rude, Mike, but with such terrible matchups and me still winning it's kinda just like "bleh." =(

Talk is cheap but you're just saying cause you want to know who my main is. Admit it, you're curious <3

but why is olimar a bad match up?

Saying Olimar is 70-30 is GENEROUS towards Puff. I don't see how it's less than 80-20. Olimar's everything outranges Puffs everything. It's practically impossible to get a clean rest, you you're relying on moves like dash, fsmash, or sweetspotted FAir to get a kill. Chances are if you don't get the edgehog, which a good olimar will prevent you from getting, that olimar is living till 120+. Where as Jigglypuff is retardedly light and will die from BThrow, DThrow, FThrow, or any smash quite easily.

yeah, i couldnt get the edge for all my lives. my pikmin kept dying. >_>

and enough brawl talk, im tired of reading all this pro stuff.

john, are you online now?

 

[MygL]

rust, why'd you quit so early? and i hate final destination. i cant believe you got it twice.

@john, im not trying to be rude...

I know, my self esteem is low enough though, it doesn't need to go any lower.

why? cause rust beat you?
brawl? I could use some just for lulz matches.

ditto, i'm tired of getting my ass whupped by 12 year old girls.

Dude, it's Wi-Fi.

 

[John102]

I'm nineteen >=P

Tidus even said it last page <3

And how about I just show you my main. One round of him and then will you be happy? =[

i know, it was just for lolz. Anyway, here's the deal I do one match with your main, then I brawl mike with items to boost my self esteem(mike sucks at item matches.)

 

[cornymikey]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deep

why? cause rust beat you?
brawl? I could use some just for lulz matches.

ditto, i'm tired of getting my ass whupped by 12 year old girls.

heh, me too. I would have been satisfied if I got like 5 matches. I like to use all my mains before someone leaves.

hey, i told you that I'm just bad against your IC and olimar, the good brawlers won't take no crap though. You should've went strait to meta.

I used MK and olimar with rust.

 

[Rust]

You can't have stage johns with MK D=
And Olimar is better on FD. He has more space to work with. Both are good, but Oli is better on FD by a portion imo

They came from random =P

And he did go straight to Meta. Then to Olimar.

anyways, John make a room? I'll show you my main if you keep quiet about her/him

 

[cornymikey]

Not to be rude, Mike, but with such terrible matchups and me still winning it's kinda just like "bleh." =(

Talk is cheap but you're just saying cause you want to know who my main is. Admit it, you're curious <3

but why is olimar a bad match up?

Saying Olimar is 70-30 is GENEROUS towards Puff. I don't see how it's less than 80-20. Olimar's everything outranges Puffs everything. It's practically impossible to get a clean rest, you you're relying on moves like dash, fsmash, or sweetspotted FAir to get a kill. Chances are if you don't get the edgehog, which a good olimar will prevent you from getting, that olimar is living till 120+. Where as Jigglypuff is retardedly light and will die from BThrow, DThrow, FThrow, or any smash quite easily.

EDIT: There is no bad MK stage. I've spent time playing MK. THE ONLY STAGES MK IS BAD ON ARE BANNED.

well, MK is BETTER on battlefield then FD, i didnt say FD was decent.

 

[cornymikey]

You can't have stage johns with MK D=
And Olimar is better on FD. He has more space to work with. Both are good, but Oli is better on FD by a portion imo

They came from random =P

And he did go straight to Meta. Then to Olimar.

anyways, John make a room? I'll show you my main if you keep quiet about her/him

well, all this pro talk is getting me fired up. well, not really, but whatever.

 

[John102]

You can't have stage johns with MK D=
And Olimar is better on FD. He has more space to work with. Both are good, but Oli is better on FD by a portion imo

They came from random =P

And he did go straight to Meta. Then to Olimar.

anyways, John make a room? I'll show you my main if you keep quiet about her/him

ok :veryhappy:

imma go make room now.

 

[John102]

mike, be online.

 

[Rust]

I'm sorry if I've offended you ;_;

 

[Tidus Strife]

Have fun John? :O

 

[Hub12]

Rust= Person from Smash Camp...?

 

[Rust]

Yup, that's me ^_^

And GG, John. Though I understand if you don't think of it that way =[

 

[Hub12]

Hub12 is bored

Rust, Brawl?

 

[Rust]

Sure. I'm in a less serious mood now ^_^

Once you post your FC then I'll add you. Can you host? Thank you ^_^

 

[John102]

I'm sorry if I've offended you ;_;

me? If you're talking about me, then no, I'm not offended, don't know how you could've offended me.

HOLY CRAP! I got no damage on you the first 2 stock, then I went ghetto and got 100, but seriously, wow. Yeah, you're good, you can talk the talk AND walk the walk. Oh, and I thought we were only doing 1 match, that's why I let Mike join. Thanks for the brawl though, it really put me in perspective about the good *insert main here* of brawl. And don't worry your secret is safe with me . Know I'm going to go learn the ways of Vista. Any of you brawled him btw? He's my wolf idol.