Tarot Mafia Reads

[Heyden]

putting here cos BBcode ****


BlueDogXL- Has not said anything yet, I'm assuming they're going to be replaced soon.

Sugarella- Useless, can't play mafia and keeps complaining because it's too hard, probably going to get replaced soon.

Heyden- Should win all the scummies awards.

M3ow_- Hasn't posted much but basing off her meta

ToadsworthyMeh

Jacob- Inclined to believe he's town

Tom- Thinks I'm dumb scum but I'm actually the opposite, intelligent town, I would read but I'm too lazy so I skimmed quickly through most of the pages.

Alexi- Has a suspicion against me, which seems legible and I can see why. Not sure what to say about her, compared to her gameplay in her first game, the meta is pretty similar so I'm letting her off as town for now in my opinion.

Inkling- Emotional defensive noob who is probably town. Annoys me that he stated that he voted Cory early on in the game but then changed to Dolby and implied he wouldn't change it because he was firm on his vote. As expected, he changed his vote to Cory just to save himself, Inkling the useless defensive emotional townie. I know it isn't entirely his fault that Cory was lynched, but he was the reason that COP died, so I'm a little angry.

Mother of all Llamas- Came late into the game, a few hours before day ended saying she'll read back on the posts, but the only thoughts she stated was that Inkling was town in her eyes. Also promised to vote later but did not, but I guess this is normal play for her.

Dolby- A very manipulative player, based on meta, I would rule him out as town, but his reads and thoughts don't really allign with mine, townreading Ness and scumreading Inkling, whilst I have the opposite in mind.

Crys- I have no idea what you're trying to do but it's really confusing and annoying. If you actually are town somewhat, I request that you at least try and help. Possibility of fool or some sort of third party even, I don't see him flipping scum because of about how he has been acting, but anything is possible I guess. Also has a strong scumread on Dolby and I can sense why though...

- I have a weird feeling coming from him, I noticed that his posts seem a little forced in a way to make it seem like they are town.

Ness- Pretty suspicious in my opinion, how come inkling was forced to claim whilst he was being bandwagoned on, but Ness didn't ask Cory to claim before he was lynched in the last few minutes? You've been scum a lot and based on your mistakes in the last game, I wouldn't be surprised if you're playing it extra safe this time round, but I still feel like you're acting weird.

Panda1376
Shiida

 

[Heyden]

Null|Townread|Townlean|Slight Sus|High Sus|Scum

Heyden- Best player, should win all the scummies.

Crys- Only putting him as null because honestly I don't know where else he belongs. Almost certain he's the Fool

mother of all llamas- Not much to go off, inactive as usual whether she's mafia or town. Shares common thoughts with most people.

Taesaek- New to mafia but definitely knows what he's doing, has been very pro-town overall. If anything, they are probably my strongest townread, and I'm sure most people would agree with that.

Alexi- Also new to mafia but helps lead town in the right direction, makes good points and overall, I just have a strong feeling about her being town.

Jacob- My views on him leaning town are based on meta, because when he was scum in a previous game, he was very inconsistent and was mostly inactive for most of it. Although, the way you play and act in the game can be easily changed so I'm not firm on my thoughts about him yet. I'm getting a sense he's trying to help town, but not in the right direction if that makes any sense.

Xine- Has only posted a couple of times but their posts are very consistent and has decent content in which most of it I agree with. Has obviously played mafia elsewhere as they seem very experienced, and I'm glad they stepped in as a replacement because town has a better chance now. I know it's too early to judge them as they only just recently came into the game, but I have a pretty good feeling about them.

Trundle- I find it weird how he asked for a list of role claims, and I notice when he's scum he's very independent to his own team but that isn't much to rule anything out. Called out Taesaek, Alexi and Tom as scum but claimed he didn't read the thread? Trundle always seems scummy to me anyway, hence why I've only placed him as slighty suspicious for now. I wouldn't be surprised if he was scum.

Tardis2016- Hardly has any idea what's going on. Claimed 'The Tower' the townie out of nowhere. 'The Tower' is a major arcana, so I don't think his town claim is true. Don't really know what he's trying to do at all so I'm going to rule him out as slightly suspicious for now.

Toadsworthy- Honestly nothing from him has really stuck out to me, just going to leave him as slightly suspicious for now, I'm having mixed opinions about him at the moment so I'm likely to change my views about him. I don't see why everyone thinks he's scum, everyone's just sheeping on him.

Inkling- Has been acting very weird throughout the whole game. Ness managed to move a lynch off her onto Cory, and she continues to defend him even though it's so clear that he isn't what he claims to be. Scumreads are Taesaek, Alexi, Tom and Jacob, which most of it doesn't make much sense to me, since she even called one of them out for being power role when they were obviously asking about role names. Very wary of her, but I don't think she's one of the best lynch candidates unless something comes up. I think she's just super emotional and defensive.

Dolby- Very scummy behavior in this game so far. Strongly townreads Ness, which isn't one of the smartest things to say in this point in time, and Ness has denied any affiliation with him so that makes me think these two are linked somehow. In addition, Ness claimed to have 'jailed' Dolby, which apparently would have saved and roleblocked him, but that sounds like more of a Nurse save. If Dolby was power role, that would've obviously lead to Ness lying, but I'm pretty sure Ness made a mistake and claimed to have used an action on his partner to keep it safe. Of course, Ness might be trying to frame Dolby, but Dolby is heavily townreading Ness, and Ness is strongly townreading Dolby. I guess my views on Dolby are based on the events between him on Ness but in all, it looks off. I DON'T KNOW, I'm starting to think that he's just being a really bad townie now. Ness is townreading Dolby and Ness is going to flip scum, so it's a matter of trying to frame him, playing tricks with us or actually telling the truth whilst it seems like he's trying to put us off. I'm actually so conflicted about my thoughts on Dolby.

Tom- At first I was leaning town for Tom, but more recently I've felt like something is off about him. I was originally going to rule him off as slightly suspicious, but it weird where he basically scumread everyone, although, props to him for having his own opinion. Putting almost everyone as, it's like he's trying to hide his thoughts to not accidentally reveal anything vital if he flips scum, but honestly I'm leaning more unsure about him. I'll look further into him tomorrow.

Ness- SCUM 100%, I don't need any further explanation or I'll be just repeating everything that has been stated so far. He is not 'The Moon', the Jack of all Trade, his powers make no sense at all and a Jack would be pretty overpowered in such a small game.

-Everyone is a bunch of sheep, please try and decide on your own opinions, don't base it off others
-My reads and thoughts are not firm, so could easily change based on nights actions
-Tom is a very optimal lynch for Day 3

 

[Prabha]

Would you do 1k for the classic?

 

[Heyden]

Null|Townread|Townlean|Slight Sus|High Sus|Scum
Heyden
Call me Daniel
Alexi
Tardis2016
Panda1376
Sarasakat
Xine
Crys
Toadsworthy
ClamEatsCurry
Ness
Cadbberry
M3ow_
Inkling
Kevinnn
Cory
Taesaek
Aronthaer
Shondell
Qwerty111
Shiida
Mother of all llamas
Honey.dew

 

[Heyden]

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[Karminny]

Would you do 1k for the classic?

welp. stole my offer

 

[Heyden]

Dolby
Can't be bothered to go through his whole post filter and I really don't think there's a lot of posts I can pick on as scummy so I'm just gonna jot down a few points.
-Not gonna lie, honestly I'm not entirely convinced on him being scum but using elimination I feel like he's more likely out of the 3.
-Pocketing of newbies as town seems a bit excessive but he doesn't really fight for them when sussed, take Evan, Sensai, Bowie, and maybe Kirby if he fits into that rank.
-Scumleans me but I don't really know why unless I skipped past it, I don't take suspicions based on nothing lightly so just curious why
Honestly doing this read I'm probably less suspicious of Dolby than I originally thought lmao. I'll ISO if I'm bothered, just cbf to read through 100+ posts right now, don't really have the time to devote to that, but yeah I could definitely see Dolby flipping either town or mafia, this is probably more a null to be honest.

Cleb
There is literally nothing to ISO on him but two things I didn't like was;
a) His Zendel and Evan scumreads solely based on reactions to him, completely dissipating every other post they had made.
b) Softed third party during day 1/night 1, then as soon as Mog (Third-Party) died it became veteran softing all of a sudden, probably because two third-parties is extremely unlikely so that was something that struck me as weird.

Yeah that's basically it, if you do actually end up being veteran and bc of 'your change of playstyle' you've done next to nothing, I really hate you.

Crys/f11
Feel like I'm still the same on Crys, no one's really brought her up at all which is beyond me because comparing her last game with now idk how you guys don't see differences in her behaviour. Just gonna paste my last read on her since nothing has really changed since she was on board the Zendel wagon too (before she unvoted then voted again??), but yeah. Also I know this is a pretty weak read but using my process of elimination I'm still leaning scum on Crys.

Quite disoriented on my read bc I think the first half of day 1 Crys proved to be town than my initial thought with her jab at Dolby I think, but I sorta doubted myself in the last few hours. The thing that I found really weird was how defensive she was in regards to Zendel’s post, like I can see where she’s coming from bc it really was just a lot of fluff and repetition, but that much defensiveness is something I haven’t seen in Crys in a while (ever?), it just seemed really out of character and put me off.
Also to mention, her really unconventional vote and thought process that she concluded on and ended up placing one on Karen. From what I got, she thought Kirby was town and didn’t want him lynched and had Jacob/Karen/Zendel/Mog as scumreads. At the time of posting her reads and voting on Karen, both Kirby and Jacob had 2 votes each. I don’t understand why you voted Karen over a scumread that would be lynched over a townread, did you really have faith in the Karen wagon catching traction over the other two?

Bowie
Soooooo yeah, I know I had him as a townlean quite early into the game because of his pregame post indication the irony of his rolename, because that's just something I wouldn't see a first time scum do, be so vocal as soon as they receive their role. And a lot of these early towntells usually stick in my favour (Uttumori in SU:2, Nightmares in Paper Mario, etc), but looking at it now I think it was pretty naive of me to go by that logic. Was reading back on D1 earlier and noticed one post in particular that I felt like was either a scumslip or an attempt to force himself being a townie.

It wasn't about my role, though. You all got the same message as me with the flavour text. How was it not obvious I was referring to that rather than my actual role?

Also, I didn't count that since it was pre-game.

Endless Town-locked me later in the game. You did it way too quick for my liking. Anyone Town-leaning with such determination and confidence below the five post mark is just weird to me.

Now at the time, Kirby had been lynched, and looking at Yoshi's flavour text; 'a carefree yet highly capable fighter.' sounds extremely universal to me, and I'm thinking maybe Bowie f***** up by assuming that all flavour text was the same for townies, like was in his Luigi's Mansion mansion. Plus we know that townie flavour is definitely unique to everyone, looking at Zendel's role well. Honestly I don't think there's any plausible explanation to this unless he misused the term 'flavour' but I doubt that considering he's hosted a few games already.

Next, the thing I noticed while going through his posts is how highly inconsistent he is with everything. I know contradicting yourself can be either seen as bad town or scum, but the way he went about his choice of votes was very extremely off.

Day 1
Basically he voted Kirby because he didn't want a 'wasted vote on Dolby', which is interesting because in Themeless he didn't even stop to think if his vote would actually count or not as usually pursue what he believes, so bandwagoning on Kirby (Town) who already had votes from Jacob (Town) and Glow (Probably Town) is something I found really out of character, because I don't see him mentioning Kirby prior to that.

Day 2
Doesn't like wasting votes yet votes Sensai and keeps it? Hmmm.... He even said he's vote Dolby day 2 so him to go in the complete opposite direction makes me think this could be a really weak bus attempt.

I'm sure if you guys through his post filter you can probably tell what I mean, and if it wasn't for the role thing pregame Bowie would definitely be in red at this point for the flavour slip. And actually, I'd like to know what your role name is to see how 'ironic' it is and see if it lines up to what you said at the start.
Unless I've misunderstood and taken it completely out of context but I've read over that line like 20 times and idk if I actually misinterpreted it or not.

TLDR: Bowie has inconsistent reads and votes, assumed townie flavour was all the same, meaning that he possibly slipped

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Also I sorta just half-assed everyone else because there's no way I'm not voting one of the above four so anyway.

Glow - Confirmed town, doctor's save
Evan - No way he's scum tbh, all his posts just scream town
Karen/Kermit - Pretty sure she's town but she has experience and knows what she's doing so definitely not locked in fmpov
Sensai - My sus on him before was a bit weak and uncalled for, his posts don't indicate any form of town alignment though so null
Endless - I see him being likely more town than Dolby/Cleb which is why he's a step lower, really conflicted at this point bc I literally don't know anymore

Will be here for the rest of night hopefully so if anyone has questions and stuff hmu.