Smash Bros Smash Bros. 3DS/Wii U Discussion Thread
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JasonBurrows
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I just need the Lucas, Roy, Ryu, Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta amiibo and I will have purchased EVERYTHING to do with the Super Smash Bros. 4 series.
DarkDesertFox
Your Typical Trickster
Spamming the slingshot in the air over and over as villager is not a strategy.
NO BOWSER ALREADY GOT A TON OF BUFFS NO MORE PLEASE
Spam technically is a strategy if you really you think about it.
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His up throw is fun
Zelda needs to be buffed with frame data that isn't ****
Spam technically is a strategy if you really you think about it.
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His up throw is fun
Zelda needs to be buffed with frame data that isn't ****
Zelda isn't that bad if you make use of her moves properly, like every other character actually.
DarkDesertFox
Your Typical Trickster
One thing I hate about using Cloud is like people's only strategy is to throw you off the edge. They repeatedly just grab, throw, and attempt a slam dunk.
Yeah, if you want to be an *******.
Yeah, if you want to be an *******.
No she's bad. Her moves have so much endlag which doesn't work well since she's slow in general in the first place, her teleport recovery is the worst for recovering because it's the only one that doesn't allow you to move immediately after reappearing, lol Din's sucks, her reflector is much slower than any other reflector so you may not reflect something even if you read the attack, lightning kicks have no indication of where the sweet spot actually is so it's impossible to hit someone with it since 99% of the time they won't be standing still, shall I continue? I used Zelda only last tournament so o do know the character.
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Hey Guys, I was just going through some photos I took a while ago, and I guess I wanted to share them:
This one is my favorite:
I thought this one might of been funny:
And this is Zero Suit Samus' New Move (aka, perfectly timing multiple attacks):
This one is my favorite:
I thought this one might of been funny:
And this is Zero Suit Samus' New Move (aka, perfectly timing multiple attacks):
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I thought I'd play Bows on FG yesterday, got matched up with a Peach user.
They pulled 2 bombs out in a single match and failed to kill with either.
Lost after breaking their shield, I gave them too much mercy ;_;
They pulled 2 bombs out in a single match and failed to kill with either.
Lost after breaking their shield, I gave them too much mercy ;_;
Okay after playing some games against a Cloud player I'm 100% convinced that Cloud is not that good of a character.
After a while, every game turned into: Get him offstage with some move or small combo -> throw out an attack to scare him into airdodging -> mash jump to footstool him after his airdodge ended -> lol u died at 20%. And I've done this before to other players, it's just sad (except for me I'm usually laughing louder than a hyena).
I also love how contradictory people are just to defend a character they like or to give a reason for their salt towards a character. I see a lot of people in Twitter, YouTube, etc that say "You can't say Cloud is a bad character just because of his recovery!" (Which he has other flaws I'll get to later) and then turn around and say "Ness is an overrated character, his recovery is horrible." OH PLEASE NESS ACTUALLY CAN JUMP AND IF YOU FAIL AT COUNTERING PK THUNDER, YOU'RE PROBABLY DEAD. CLOUD HAS ALMOST NO JUMP HEIGHT AND THE ONLY DIRECTION HE CAN RECOVER IS UP. Abadango just posted his tier list, Cloud was 4th, Ness was somewhere in B-. I don't care if he's a top player, wtf. (He also put Game and Watch in B+...) I went to the Cloud boards and they thought they had the advantage in the Sheik matchup because she can't exploit his recovery, but they can exploit hers. :| No. Cloud mains of Smashboards, that's not how these characters work.
Other flaws he has: his Neautral comprises of... standing still. Oh. I mean, I know you want that Limit Break, but you can't really charge that when I'm spamming projectiles at you so... oh wait, you have a projectile too! And it's slow to use and when it's moving, doesn't do that much damage and has no knockback, can't combo into anything, and is weaker and slower in the air so you basically can't do anything against a character approaching in the air. Great. Nair is okay but it's just so obvious that it's coming so I wouldn't really call it that reliable. Side B, what's the point of it? (Without Limit Break) It's INCREDIBLY slow so you really only use it for a mixup if someone's near you, or at least you could if it didn't send people away from you so you can't combo them. And if you do manage to et the last hit in, it still doesn't kill at 150% at the ledge with rage. Wat. His pummel and all of his throws are completely useless. No combos, no kill potential, not very good damage, what's the point of them?
People just think he's good since they don't know how to play against him (or their main has a bad matchup against him). JohnNumbers said something along the lines of "Cloud's a really bad character with some really good moves" which sounds about right.
Okay rant over that was fun.
After a while, every game turned into: Get him offstage with some move or small combo -> throw out an attack to scare him into airdodging -> mash jump to footstool him after his airdodge ended -> lol u died at 20%. And I've done this before to other players, it's just sad (except for me I'm usually laughing louder than a hyena).
I also love how contradictory people are just to defend a character they like or to give a reason for their salt towards a character. I see a lot of people in Twitter, YouTube, etc that say "You can't say Cloud is a bad character just because of his recovery!" (Which he has other flaws I'll get to later) and then turn around and say "Ness is an overrated character, his recovery is horrible." OH PLEASE NESS ACTUALLY CAN JUMP AND IF YOU FAIL AT COUNTERING PK THUNDER, YOU'RE PROBABLY DEAD. CLOUD HAS ALMOST NO JUMP HEIGHT AND THE ONLY DIRECTION HE CAN RECOVER IS UP. Abadango just posted his tier list, Cloud was 4th, Ness was somewhere in B-. I don't care if he's a top player, wtf. (He also put Game and Watch in B+...) I went to the Cloud boards and they thought they had the advantage in the Sheik matchup because she can't exploit his recovery, but they can exploit hers. :| No. Cloud mains of Smashboards, that's not how these characters work.
Other flaws he has: his Neautral comprises of... standing still. Oh. I mean, I know you want that Limit Break, but you can't really charge that when I'm spamming projectiles at you so... oh wait, you have a projectile too! And it's slow to use and when it's moving, doesn't do that much damage and has no knockback, can't combo into anything, and is weaker and slower in the air so you basically can't do anything against a character approaching in the air. Great. Nair is okay but it's just so obvious that it's coming so I wouldn't really call it that reliable. Side B, what's the point of it? (Without Limit Break) It's INCREDIBLY slow so you really only use it for a mixup if someone's near you, or at least you could if it didn't send people away from you so you can't combo them. And if you do manage to et the last hit in, it still doesn't kill at 150% at the ledge with rage. Wat. His pummel and all of his throws are completely useless. No combos, no kill potential, not very good damage, what's the point of them?
People just think he's good since they don't know how to play against him (or their main has a bad matchup against him). JohnNumbers said something along the lines of "Cloud's a really bad character with some really good moves" which sounds about right.
Okay rant over that was fun.
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toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
opinions are opinions! don't let other people put down your character! especially in something as varied as this... I for one suck at getting kills on like 20% and don't even try when people fall off so its not that big of a flaw in my eyes.... each person's play styles i feel like do better in certain situations so trying to put all these characters in tiers is pointless and causes more rage like this than anything good.
basically all my favorite and best characters are always classified as "low tiered" but those people can suck it! I'm gonna play as them no matter what and I do fairly well
basically all my favorite and best characters are always classified as "low tiered" but those people can suck it! I'm gonna play as them no matter what and I do fairly well
Toadsworthy's words of wisdom!
Someone made edits to Bayo's art and Corrin's art to show the other colors since they aren't released yet.
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Edits done by: http://simplederk.deviantart.com
Totally maining the Red color on Male Corrin and Jeanne colors on Bayo.
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Edits done by: http://simplederk.deviantart.com
Totally maining the Red color on Male Corrin and Jeanne colors on Bayo.
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