Self-indulgent artists on deviantart

[Money Hunter]

I'm p sure that if you were an artist, and a buyer hasn't paid even after the commission was completed, you'd want to warn other artists. Especially if the buyer is still actively commissioning others.

No one deserves to be scammed out of their money.

It's fine to warn other artists of a scamming client, but many artists have been rude to clients for asking for changes during the mockup process, or for asking for the artist to fix a mistake that the artist made. This isn't even counting the artists on DA that get pissed at people that compliment their art because the compliment 'was too generic'

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I've seen customers defaming an artist because of their "high" prices more often than the other way around though...

I guess both clients and artists have the potential to be the stinkiest ***holes sometimes.

 

[Naiad]

If the customer doesn't agree with their pricing, the customer is well within the means to let the artist know. The artist can't go around defaming them for this reason.

No.
If you don't agree with an artist's pricing, something which buyers should know before the artist even starts on the piece, you don't buy.

Using Yuumei as an example here, because she's fairly popular. Her pricing on her art is high because it's high-quality, and more importantly, people still flood her with commissions. It's not her problem if you can't afford her art.

 

[Bowie]

Well, I'm an artist, and I used Tumblr to create my website. I don't accept commissions, however, so I can't really relate to any of that. I wouldn't go out of my way to exploit anyone who disliked my work, so, that's all I can say about that. DeviantART didn't give me enough creative space, so I switched to Tumblr.

 

[Money Hunter]

No.
If you don't agree with an artist's pricing, something which buyers should know before the artist even starts on the piece, you don't buy.

Using Yuumei as an example here, because she's fairly popular. Her pricing on her art is high because it's high-quality, and more importantly, people still flood her with commissions. It's not her problem if you can't afford her art.

I'm not talking about buying their art and then complaining. I'm saying that you simply leave a comment on a person's page telling them you don't agree with their pricing. The next day they post a journal with your name in it and how your a s***head. I can't be bothered to dig up examples right now, but it isn't that uncommon.

 

[Pharaoh]

I'm not talking about buying their art and then complaining. I'm saying that you simply leave a comment on a person's page telling them you don't agree with their pricing. The next day they post a journal with your name in it and how your a s***head. I can't be bothered to dig up examples right now, but it isn't that uncommon.

I don't believe anyone should be specifically shamed for having an opinion, like I wouldn't personally make a journal to talk about someone who left me a rude comment, but that IS indeed, a rude comment to leave an artist. Artists have the right to set their prices in a way that's respectful to the amount of work they put in to create art, and often times more than not, they are SEVERELY undercharged and as a result the prices are dropped to accommodate customer demands. Say an artist should actually be getting $50 for their work, but are only charging $10 because the youth on deviantART demand the prices to be lowered to match their weekly allowances- that isn't fair, and that's rude to tell artists what they should do with their business, especially when some of them have to pay their bills. I'm just saying. It's a very emotional topic for many artists, I am not saying customers should be berated or ranted at, but the point stands- you wouldn't get away with telling any other business what they should price their inventory at, and art is no different.

 

[Money Hunter]

I don't believe anyone should be specifically shamed for having an opinion, like I wouldn't personally make a journal to talk about someone who left me a rude comment, but that IS indeed, a rude comment to leave an artist. Artists have the right to set their prices in a way that's respectful to the amount of work they put in to create art, and often times more than not, they are SEVERELY undercharged and as a result the prices are dropped to accommodate customer demands. Say an artist should actually be getting $50 for their work, but are only charging $10 because the youth on deviantART demand the prices to be lowered to match their weekly allowances- that isn't fair, and that's rude to tell artists what they should do with their business, especially when some of them have to pay their bills. I'm just saying. It's a very emotional topic for many artists, I am not saying customers should be berated or ranted at, but the point stands- you wouldn't get away with telling any other business what they should price their inventory at, and art is no different.

That's kinda what I'm saying. Telling artists to lower their prices is an ***holeish thing to do, but publically shaming them for that is just immature. Also, the main reason artists underprice is because there's so much competition. If a kid can't afford one artist's art (which is priced fairly) they buy art from an artist that underprices. I don't think it's because of comments, because there are many people that sell closed species adopts at $300+, and people complain but there are still people that buy.

 

[oreo]

I don't believe anyone should be specifically shamed for having an opinion, like I wouldn't personally make a journal to talk about someone who left me a rude comment, but that IS indeed, a rude comment to leave an artist. Artists have the right to set their prices in a way that's respectful to the amount of work they put in to create art, and often times more than not, they are SEVERELY undercharged and as a result the prices are dropped to accommodate customer demands. Say an artist should actually be getting $50 for their work, but are only charging $10 because the youth on deviantART demand the prices to be lowered to match their weekly allowances- that isn't fair, and that's rude to tell artists what they should do with their business, especially when some of them have to pay their bills. I'm just saying. It's a very emotional topic for many artists, I am not saying customers should be berated or ranted at, but the point stands- you wouldn't get away with telling any other business what they should price their inventory at, and art is no different.

I'm sorry to butt in but I agree completely with you, Pharaoh! Why complain about an artist's price? Simply don't buy it.

 

[MyLifeIsCake]

If people are willing to buy art at what ever price the artist sets than that's fine. Its only over or under priced to the customers, the only thing artist spend on it is time, effort, and mayybee a little $ if it requires so (paintings, sculpture, ext) That being said, I see nothing wrong with someone saying 'Wow, you're art is really good, I'd buy if it wasn't so expensive.' rather than 'Wow that art is wayyy overpriced.' Ultimately the artist makes the choice on the value of their work, and even if you can't afford it, you can admire it.

 

[Pharaoh]

I'm sorry to butt in but I agree completely with you, Pharaoh! Why complain about an artist's price? Simply don't buy it.

You're not butting in at all milkbae! I'm glad people understand. It's sad that there are some customers out there that not only refuse to pay an artist a respectable price, but also demand to pay as cheaply as possible, which is an insult to art and to the work that goes into it. Nobody would go to a doctor and demand he charge them less for an operation. Artists are people supplying a service too.

But I do not agree with shaming either way, that's just immature. Though there was actually an instance, not sure if anyone remembers, but there was an artist on deviantART a while back by the name of PirateCashoo that I guess ended up getting thousands of dollars worth of money from commissioners and never gave them the art they paid for, so people have petitioned to sue her and a lot of them have written some pretty angry things on other websites about her and all over her page, it definitely goes both ways.

 

[oreo]

That being said, I see nothing wrong with someone saying 'Wow, you're art is really good, I'd buy if it wasn't so expensive.' rather than 'Wow that art is wayyy overpriced.' Ultimately the artist makes the choice on the value of their work.

Definitely! There is a difference to how you say it. I'm sure I say something similar to the first example most of the time when I'm broke, or saving up for more important splurges.

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Though there was actually an instance, not sure if anyone remembers, but there was an artist on deviantART a while back by the name of PirateCashoo that I guess ended up getting thousands of dollars worth of money from commissioners and never gave them the art they paid for, so people have petitioned to sue her and a lot of them have written some pretty angry things on other websites about her and all over her page, it definitely goes both ways.

That is outrageous! Did she even use her own art examples or was that stolen as well?

 

[piichinu]

scroll through witchpaws' sushi dog auctions' comment sections

 

[Pharaoh]

Definitely! There is a difference to how you say it. I'm sure I say something similar to the first example most of the time when I'm broke, or saving up for more important splurges.

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That is outrageous! Did she even use her own art examples or was that stolen as well?

I don't know to be honest, I mean, everything she drew seemed to be consistent for the most part, and she was a pretty good artist, she had so many orders. I don't know how it got so out of control or why she just jumped ship, but nobody has ever heard anything since.

 

[Naiad]

I don't know to be honest, I mean, everything she drew seemed to be consistent for the most part, and she was a pretty good artist, she had so many orders. I don't know how it got so out of control or why she just jumped ship, but nobody has ever heard anything since.

I don't want to be awkward here but:

She actually ended up homeless, which is why she was unable to finish the commissions. iirc she's living out of her car (with another person, might I add), and it's pretty difficult for her to return all the money, considering she's bankrupt and on the streets.

 

[Beardo]

Things like sushi dogs piss me off. They're over priced and people are obsessed with them

 

[Pharaoh]

I don't want to be awkward here but:

She actually ended up homeless, which is why she was unable to finish the commissions. iirc she's living out of her car (with another person, might I add), and it's pretty difficult for her to return all the money, considering she's bankrupt and on the streets.

That's pretty unfortunate. Like I said though, tons of angry customers and it's scary to think so many of them are trying to find her. I mean, their anger is understandable, but the death threats are crazy. It's just a really sad situation.

 

[Naiad]

That's pretty unfortunate. Like I said though, tons of angry customers and it's scary to think so many of them are trying to find her. I mean, their anger is understandable, but the death threats are crazy. It's just a really sad situation.

Yeah, I understand being upset at never getting your art, but death threats should never be necessary. I hope she manages to get stable housing/occupation and comes back one day c:
She's a really cool person who got hit with hard times and just couldn't bounce back.

 

[oreo]

I don't want to be awkward here but:

She actually ended up homeless, which is why she was unable to finish the commissions. iirc she's living out of her car (with another person, might I add), and it's pretty difficult for her to return all the money, considering she's bankrupt and on the streets.

Wow, this is really saddening to hear. I hope her customers are informed of her situation so they understand why she couldn't complete everyone's orders. ;-;

 

[piichinu]

Things like sushi dogs piss me off. They're over priced and people are obsessed with them

not really overpriced since she starts them off at $15 and other people are the reason they go for like $600

 

[Beardo]

not really overpriced since she starts them off at $15 and other people are the reason they go for like $600

The people I followed on my old account bought them for like that much and sold them for the same. No auction or anything. And people had like 6 of them!

 

[piichinu]

The people I followed on my old account bought them for like that much and sold them for the same. No auction or anything. And people had like 6 of them!

ya, but this thread was more about what the artist prices them at. the autobuys are pretty high though