PSA: calling the update the 'summer update' does not make Northern hem players privileged

[daringred_]

The most mindblowing thing is that they even delayed the game. No idea what that did tbh. It's an unfinished game and I personally think more people should be angry they spent that much money on a game that was not finished. I got my copy as a gift so at least I didn't pay for it but if I did, I'd be pretty butthurt.

oh i was butthurt, believe me. i dropped just shy of £300, i think, maybe even more, for the game, switch lite and a case and the game isn't even finished. couldn't believe i waited four years for that. it was like being slapped in the face with an iron barbed wire chair.

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I can definitely understand their frustration. I might probably whine for a minute but eventually will settle down. The content will become readily available in the next few months anyway. I guess the concern there is being "first" to experience the new update. This is a crushing blow to players who don't time travel though.

everybody's going to be "first" though? it isn't season locked content...

 

[Feferily]

ya, it's one of the reasons why it's my tagline. to throw it back in the faces of bigots and because i'm proud to be aggressively gay, y'know? but that doesn't mean people get to use it as a cheap insult and then hide behind "oh well it's your tagline."

i didn't plan on saying anything because even if nobody else said i was overreacting, they would've and i can't be asked to deal with it so it was nice to see someone jump in. good on you.

Aha, thank. I'm also lesbean enby and always have a harder time calling outthis behavior in regards to myself.
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The second they pull that crap, I'm signing off and I think others should too to let them know they can't get away with that garbage. I'm hoping they don't but only time will tell.

I think they said no dlc but... I might just have imagined that as a wishful thought.

 

[Corrie]

oh i was butthurt, believe me. i dropped just shy of £300, i think, maybe even more, for the game, switch lite and a case and the game isn't even finished. couldn't believe i waited four years for that. it was like being slapped in the face with an iron barbed wire chair.

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everybody's going to be "first" though? it isn't season locked content...

You're so totally right. I tried not to get overly hyped about this game because I didn't want to get disappointed but I still got disappointed. It's that moment where you want to like the game because you like Animal Crossing but you know the game was just rushed. It's almost like they spent too much time on the crafting system or something and said screw the rest. I understand that the game can't have everything the other games had but wow it barely has the bare minimum to make it Animal Crossing. At least in my eyes and I'm sad.

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Aha, thank. I'm also lesbean enby and always have a harder time calling outthis behavior in regards to myself.
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I think they said no dlc but... I might just have imagined that as a wishful thought.

I've been hearing people mention 2-3 years of free updates. Haven't seen an official source of that but at least it's free. It freaking should be.

 

[niko@kamogawa]

everybody's going to be "first" though? it isn't season locked content...

But isn't it locked by season though? I don't expect the southern folks to play the content until summer is up. But technically, you're correct. Everyone gets the update regardless. It's more about when to experience it.

 

[daringred_]

You're so totally right. I tried not to get overly hyped about this game because I didn't want to get disappointed but I still got disappointed. It's that moment where you want to like the game because you like Animal Crossing but you know the game was just rushed. It's almost like they spent too much time on the crafting system or something and said screw the rest. I understand that the game can't have everything the other games had but wow it barely has the bare minimum to make it Animal Crossing. At least in my eyes and I'm sad.

i've had a mixed reaction to this game the entire time tbh. when we got the first teaser at E3, i was incredibly excited and ran around screaming because it had been years and i remembered sitting through the last E3 only to get nothing.

then we got the first look and i was like "oh no" at the crafting mechanic and the resource gathering. i was reminded way too much of minecraft and while i still don't like that aspect of the game, it thankfully doesn't interfere with gameplay as much as i had thought it would.

then i actually got the game and, well, i was let down. didn't help that i was locked out of most of my island for days and had to listen to that same looping music for god knows how long. and the more i played, the more i realized how much was missing. no katrina, no redd, no art gallery, no shrunk, no lottie, lyle or digby. no harriet, no lief, no luna, no pelicans and the post office, no copper and booker or police station. no resetti, no katie, no pascal, no kapp'n or his island and the minigames. i could go on.

i've definitely dropped this game much quicker than i did NL. hell, i was still playing that on two different cartridges every day for at least an hour each until NH released.

 

[Fey]

Since I can’t help but feel like this is in reference to something I said in another thread, this is the quote in which I mention privilege:

I think the “because we’re the majority things will/should obviously be catered to us” argument is coming from a pretty privileged position.

That’s it. Make of that what you will. Even if what you make of it is a much bigger deal than it ever implied.

 

[daringred_]

But isn't it locked by season though? I don't expect the southern folks to play the content until summer is up. But technically, you're correct. Everyone gets the update regardless. It's more about when to experience it.

no, it isn't season locked. not sure why everyone's assuming it is either. none of the other updates have been and diving has Always been a year round activity. i'm pretty confident Nintendo would've mentioned if it was going to be.

 

[niko@kamogawa]

no, it isn't season locked. not sure why everyone's assuming it is either. none of the other updates have been and diving has Always been a year round activity. i'm pretty confident Nintendo would've mentioned if it was going to be.

That makes a lot sense! I had that first impression of it being a summer event. Thanks for correcting me. I will wait for the update to kick in.

 

[daringred_]

Since I can’t help but feel like this is in reference to something I said in another thread, this is the quote in which I mention privilege:



That’s it. Make of that what you will. Even if what you make of it is a much bigger deal than it ever implied.

You and a bunch of others spent half that thread calling NH players privileged, give me a break. Regardless, that was a ridiculous comment to make given all the garbage going on in the world right now, especially in terms of people who don't have privilege. Not entirely sure how else you expect people to interpret "a pretty privileged position", especially given the context you used it in.

maybe just don't say something so blatantly false next time, idk

 

[Corrie]

i've had a mixed reaction to this game the entire time tbh. when we got the first teaser at E3, i was incredibly excited and ran around screaming because it had been years and i remembered sitting through the last E3 only to get nothing.

then we got the first look and i was like "oh no" at the crafting mechanic and the resource gathering. i was reminded way too much of minecraft and while i still don't like that aspect of the game, it thankfully doesn't interfere with gameplay as much as i had thought it would.

then i actually got the game and, well, i was let down. didn't help that i was locked out of most of my island for days and had to listen to that same looping music for god knows how long. and the more i played, the more i realized how much was missing. no katrina, no redd, no art gallery, no shrunk, no lottie, lyle or digby. no harriet, no lief, no luna, no pelicans and the post office, no copper and booker or police station. no resetti, no katie, no pascal, no kapp'n or his island and the minigames. i could go on.

i've definitely dropped this game much quicker than i did NL. hell, i was still playing that on two different cartridges every day for at least an hour each until NH released.

Oh man, I just had nightmare flashbacks. Seriously the first week or two on your island is one of the worst "tutorial" gameplay I have ever played. I would never restart my island just for that reason. Honestly brought me close of giving up the game. Luckily it's gotten better as I've played but it feels more like an empty shell. As well as the many MIA NPCs, where are half the furniture items? Not even the specific sets but just... where is the furniture? My house still looks horrid and that includes clinging onto crafting items to at least have something in my house.

The new clothing additions are awesome though, I have to give them credit for that.

 

[daringred_]

Oh man, I just had nightmare flashbacks. Seriously the first week or two on your island is one of the worst "tutorial" gameplay I have ever played. I would never restart my island just for that reason. Honestly brought me close of giving up the game. Luckily it's gotten better as I've played but it feels more like an empty shell. As well as the many MIA NPCs, where are half the furniture items? Not even the specific sets but just... where is the furniture? My house still looks horrid and that includes clinging onto crafting items to at least have something in my house.

The new clothing additions are awesome though, I have to give them credit for that.

i'm so-so on the clothing. most of what they added is gorgeous, other items... questionable. as is the removal of my favorite pieces: the hair-bow wig and thick rimmed glasses. i will forever feel incomplete without the latter in particular.

but big mood on the furniture. i'm convinced 90% of it's gone and they barely added in anything new to replace it. i suppose they thought they were compensating with the DIYs but a lot of them (at least in my opinion) are so ugly that it's the opposite. off the top of my head there's the regal, rococco, modern, sleek, ranch, patchwork, all of gracie's sets, the fish + bug sets, balloon, minimalist.

 

[Fey]

You and a bunch of others spent half that thread calling NH players privileged, give me a break. Regardless, that was a ridiculous comment to make given all the garbage going on in the world right now, especially in terms of people who don't have privilege. Not entirely sure how else you expect people to interpret "a pretty privileged position", especially given the context you used it in.

maybe just don't say something so blatantly false next time, idk

You do realize that the concept of privilege can apply to more than one thing, right? It’s not even an insult, inherently. In this context it just means that you’ve been in a position where you haven’t had to consider someone else’s point of view. Drawing some attention to their perspective is not an attack on anyone.

I also never said that all Northern Hemisphere players are acting privileged. This is just being blown way out of proportion.

 

[Eureka]

The most mindblowing thing is that they even delayed the game. No idea what that did tbh. It's an unfinished game and I personally think more people should be angry they spent that much money on a game that was not finished. I got my copy as a gift so at least I didn't pay for it but if I did, I'd be pretty butthurt.

Well, the the delay likely happened because of the pandemic. It has messed up a lot of things. Personally, I do not view the game as unfinished (all core mechanics are there, main story, etc) and honestly I'm not mad in the slightest about what I paid for it. I've got over 200 hours in the game and new content is still to come. That is money well spent in my book.

 

[Corrie]

i'm so-so on the clothing. most of what they added is gorgeous, other items... questionable. as is the removal of my favorite pieces: the hair-bow wig and thick rimmed glasses. i will forever feel incomplete without the latter in particular.

but big mood on the furniture. i'm convinced 90% of it's gone and they barely added in anything new to replace it. i suppose they thought they were compensating with the DIYs but a lot of them (at least in my opinion) are so ugly that it's the opposite. off the top of my head there's the regal, rococco, modern, sleek, ranch, patchwork, all of gracie's sets, the fish + bug sets, balloon, minimalist.

Aw I forgot about the hairbow wig! It was sooo cute! Now that you point it out, it's actually true, like the egg shell hat or whatever.

The diys are pretty nasty, I agree. Let's remove almost all the furniture but we cannot forget about the standees! The players love those right????? What were they even thinking really. Or the trash bags!

I really miss the rococo series. I loved that set so much!

 

[daringred_]

You do realize that the concept of privilege can apply to more than one thing, right? It’s not even an insult, inherently. In this context it just means that you’ve been in a position where you haven’t had to consider someone else’s point of view. Drawing some attention to their perspective is not an attack on anyone.

I also never said that all Northern Hemisphere players are acting privileged. This is just being blown way out of proportion.

yes, i'm not completely stupid, i know what the basic definition of "privilege" is but we both know the word has evolved over time to refer more commonly to the disparity between minorities and majorities as opposed to mundane things such as this. besides, the context and your phrasing both make it sound like you were using it in that way, subsequently trivializing actual privilege, and that's what i personally took issue with.

also maybe not at first and maybe not you specifically but from as much of it as i could stomach, it seemed like a thread largely dedicated to bashing NH players to me.

 

[Corrie]

Well, the the delay likely happened because of the pandemic. It has messed up a lot of things. Personally, I do not view the game as unfinished (all core mechanics are there, main story, etc) and honestly I'm not mad in the slightest about what I paid for it. I've got over 200 hours in the game and new content is still to come. That is money well spent in my book.

didn't the delay happen before COVID was relevant? I completely understand the delays caused by COVID but if I recall correctly, the delay was declared like a year ago.

 

[daringred_]

didn't the delay happen before COVID was relevant? I completely understand the delays caused by COVID but if I recall correctly, the delay was declared like a year ago.

the delay happened way before COVID did, yes. and why they delayed it i could not tell you because it released with less than half the content NL originally did and a plethora of bugs, some of which took months to fix.

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Well, the the delay likely happened because of the pandemic. It has messed up a lot of things. Personally, I do not view the game as unfinished (all core mechanics are there, main story, etc) and honestly I'm not mad in the slightest about what I paid for it. I've got over 200 hours in the game and new content is still to come. That is money well spent in my book.

i personally wouldn't call £60 well spent when i preordered NL for half that price and got not only twice as much content but also clocked in five times as many hours in the same period of time.

 

[Eureka]

Here is info on the delay I could find! So not related to Covid, but the delay must have been for a good reason since they lost a ton of money due to it.

"Development of a new main series Animal Crossing title for Nintendo Switch was confirmed in a Nintendo Direct on September 13, 2018, with an unspecified 2019 release date.[13] Nintendo released the game's title and first trailer at its E3 2019 Nintendo Direct on 11 June 2019.[14] The game was delayed until March 20, 2020, with Yoshiaki Koizumi stating that in order "to ensure [that] the game [was] the best it [could] be, [Nintendo had to] ask that [players] wait a little longer than [Nintendo itself] thought."[14] Nintendo of America president Doug Bowser cited a desire to avoid crunch and maintain a healthy work–life balance for Nintendo employees as the primary reason for the delay.[15] Nintendo's stock market value posted a 3.5% loss in reaction to the delay, amounting to a total loss in value of more than US$1 billion"

 

[John Wick]

i'm so-so on the clothing. most of what they added is gorgeous, other items... questionable. as is the removal of my favorite pieces: the hair-bow wig and thick rimmed glasses. i will forever feel incomplete without the latter in particular.

but big mood on the furniture. i'm convinced 90% of it's gone and they barely added in anything new to replace it. i suppose they thought they were compensating with the DIYs but a lot of them (at least in my opinion) are so ugly that it's the opposite. off the top of my head there's the regal, rococco, modern, sleek, ranch, patchwork, all of gracie's sets, the fish + bug sets, balloon, minimalist.

I 100% agree with you.
Very ugly.
The fruit DIY's look like they were designed by Stevie Wonder.

No sighted person could think that was great designing. >..<

 

[Corrie]

I 100% agree with you.
Very ugly.
The fruit DIY's look like they were designed by Stevie Wonder.

No sighted person could think that was great designing. >..<

It seems like diys were their main focus in this game. I agree though. I'd rather wait another year to have everything at my fingertips and play at a speed I want to play at rather than them push it out unfinished. It's cool they're adding things in for free but it would have been better if it were a finished game.

Oh man, don't even get me started on the horrible gaming mechanics like what you just mentioned. Grinds my gears lol.