Pokemon- Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire Discussion

[Reindeer]

SSB3DS - Way more chaotic than Pokemon, has more action happening on screen and is fully 3D throughout. Has 3D everywhere, characters will move at 60 FPS, and assist trophies and pokemon at 30 FPS.

Pokemon X/Y/OR/AS - Quite simplistic in design compared to other games. More slow paced in the overworlds. Battles aren't terribly exciting. - 2D overworld, 3D battles. Framerate drop occurs in Battles...

So Sakurai's team with Namco Bandai can figure out a way for the games to run at a smooth 60FPS, while Game Freak can't even put 3D in that quite simplistic (I mean by that not a lot of moving objects and action everywhere) overworld? Come on!

The Pokemon games load things that are around your current location. It seems dumb, but allowing for 3D on the overworld would cause even more slowdown because of that. Pair that with the fact that you've got 3D models from grass, trees, etc etc now, all the trainers walking around, possibly a Pokemon or two, all animated.
In SSB it'll all be on a fairly small stage, and it's controlled chaos. There won't be that many animated models on the stage at one time. It's easier to optimize and thus make sure the 3D works for the game.

Inst that what is happening here discussion? but Idc anymore...

Anyway I hope they cancel it!

they shoulda cancelled you

 

[RhinoK]

Offline Pokemon battles were laggy without 3D let alone with 3D

 

[Reindeer]

Offline Pokemon battles were laggy without 3D let alone with 3D

That is true. I'm not sure how many polygons the Pokemon models have, but they seriously need to work on that lag.

It's also crappy that as soon as you start a Double Battle, 3D is disabled. I think the only type of battle with multiple Pokemon that allows for 3D is the horde encounters.

 

[Zeiro]

I hate the 3D anyway, I could care less if they implement it at all.

I thought I was alone with experiencing lag during X/Y battles. They really need to work on that. The story and progression was also a bit lackluster. I didn't feel drawn into the game like I did with other Pokemon games.

 

[JDC1043]

The X/Y series was a bit weak compared to other pokemon games, especially concerning the difficulty and characterisation. The difficulty, I found, was just too easy. X/Y were my first pokemon games (I've since played Gen 5 and Gen 4) and even I breezed through the gym leaders and elite four with little-to-no trouble. I understand that the franchise is trying to cater to a younger demographic now, but perhaps the 'Challenge mode' from B2/W2 could be reinstated to offer more challenge to experienced pokemon players?
Another flaw with X/Y was the characters. I found them uninteresting, and particularly boring for the most part. From the most obvious villain ever -- Lysandre -- to everyone else, I felt the dialogue was a bit uninspired. It would be nice if OR and AS improved upon those points, but it's unlikely.

Let's hope at E3, or the next Nintendo Convention, that more information is going to be revealed with regards to the new games. I'd be interested to see whether it's going to be a simple Gen 3 port, or whether they're going to add new content in.

 

[Reindeer]

The X/Y series was a bit weak compared to other pokemon games, especially concerning the difficulty and characterisation. The difficulty, I found, was just too easy. X/Y were my first pokemon games (I've since played Gen 5 and Gen 4) and even I breezed through the gym leaders and elite four with little-to-no trouble. I understand that the franchise is trying to cater to a younger demographic now, but perhaps the 'Challenge mode' from B2/W2 could be reinstated to offer more challenge to experienced pokemon players?

Sorry to be the wise guy, but the reason they made X/Y so easy was because "people have less time to play". At least, that's what somebody said in an interview. I hope they saw that people played these games for 500 hours, so that they'll see that decision was a crappy one.

There should be a difficulty setting like the challenge mode, but it should be right at the start of the game. I don't want to first finish an easy as hell game before I can play the harder version. Make it like other games, where you start up the game and you just select Easy, Normal or Hard. Boom, done.

I agree with your other points. Also, it's kinda too late to worry about characterization in OR/AS, since the script will be lifted from the originals. It'll probably be re-translated and there'll be a few changes and additions, but it's pretty much set in stone at the moment.

I do hope they change up the Team Magma and Aqua leaders to be less generic. They were okay at the time because all the villain team leaders we'd had up to that point were fairly generic. There wasn't really a bad guy with depth until the fourth gen. So if anything, I hope they can make their motives make more sense, rather than having them be like two kids bickering.

 

[Solar]

Inst that what is happening here discussion? but Idc anymore...

Anyway I hope they cancel it!

Sorry but this irks me to no end. Just because you don't want it doesn't mean they will cancel it or do anything for you. That comment was so egocentric it's insane. Anyway, I was really disappointed with X and Y's post game so I'm excited to have these remakes because honestly anything can be better than the little you had to do in those games.

 

[Zura]

Sorry but this irks me to no end. Just because you don't want it doesn't mean they will cancel it or do anything for you. That comment was so egocentric it's insane. Anyway, I was really disappointed with X and Y's post game so I'm excited to have these remakes because honestly anything can be better than the little you had to do in those games.

Pfft I'm not asking them to do my bidding or anything, but seriously why a remake?! If anything needs a remake Kalos does...

 

[RhinoK]

X/Y was a lot of fun
But
It was too easy and I really didn't get Team Flare
Can someone explain?
That whole pokemon war thing needs more story imo which is why I'm hoping we get X2Y2
The 3D isn't something I use a lot, also you'd be in battle most of the time playing pokemon soo
This has become an X/y discussion oo

Why couldn't they remake Emerald
Clearly given the pattern of other remakes they wouldn't but you get the best of both worlds
Also I doubt the sneak peak we got are from the Sootopolis fight. That was in Emerald.

 

[Reindeer]

Pfft I'm not asking them to do my bidding, but seriously why a remake?! If anything needs a remake Kalos does...

Because it's the next in line for a remake (after they remade generations 1 and 2), and it's been highly requested by the fans. Simply because of that it doesn't mean you should go "omg i hope they cancel this game that's already 80% done", that's just being stupid.

If you're eager for Kalos remakes then at least you can look forward to trading Pokemon with your grandchildren.

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Why couldn't they remake Emerald
Clearly given the pattern of other remakes they wouldn't but you get the best of both worlds
Also I doubt the sneak peak we got are from the Sootopolis fight. That was in Emerald.

Like I said earlier in the thread, it's when Groudon/Kyogre first awaken, before you even go to Sootopolis. It's when the Drought/Drizzle ability activates and the evil team realizes their mistake.

As for Emerald being remade, it'd be kinda neat if they somehow managed to combine the storylines of R/S with E's, kinda like they did with Crystal's storyline in HG/SS. It'd probably just be that Kyogre and Groudon do show up in Sootopolis, Rayquaza comes down and tells them to shut up and then you fight whichever legendary is for your version.

 

[Shirohibiki]

Because it's the next in line for a remake (after they remade generations 1 and 2), and it's been highly requested by the fans. Simply because of that it doesn't mean you should go "omg i hope they cancel this game that's already 80% done", that's just being stupid.

If you're eager for Kalos remakes then at least you can look forward to trading Pokemon with your grandchildren.

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Like I said earlier in the thread, it's when Groudon/Kyogre first awaken, before you even go to Sootopolis. It's when the Drought/Drizzle ability activates and the evil team realizes their mistake.

As for Emerald being remade, it'd be kinda neat if they somehow managed to combine the storylines of R/S with E's, kinda like they did with Crystal's storyline in HG/SS. It'd probably just be that Kyogre and Groudon do show up in Sootopolis, Rayquaza comes down and tells them to shut up and then you fight whichever legendary is for your version.

I LAUGHED REALLY HARD BECUASE I PICTURED RAYQUAZA JUST LIKE. he coems down from the sky and is like "guys seriously this is the fifth time this week stop your bickering its really ****ing annoying" AND THEN HE GOES BACK UP LIKE "SEE YA" oMFG

also psssssssst vaati is a troll

 

[Zura]

also psssssssst vaati is a troll

Wtf only when i transform and I usually have my avatar changed. Anyway is this game gonna be new? or just the the same game with only upgraded graphics?

 

[Capella]

Wtf only when i transform and I usually have my avatar changed. Anyway is this game gonna be new? or just the the same game with only upgraded graphics?

No one knows for sure yet

 

[Reindeer]

I LAUGHED REALLY HARD BECUASE I PICTURED RAYQUAZA JUST LIKE. he coems down from the sky and is like "guys seriously this is the fifth time this week stop your bickering its really ****ing annoying" AND THEN HE GOES BACK UP LIKE "SEE YA" oMFG

lmfao it literally is like that though.

Rayquaza just comes down, goes "SHUT UP", then Kyogre and Groudon are all like "oh **** dad's home" and go away, then Rayquaza flies off. It's kinda dumb but I love it.

 

[RhinoK]

If they merge Emerald's storyline with OR/AS that'd be Emerald's storyline
It'd have to include both teams awakening both legendaries which leads to the Sootopolis Fight
Also where would the other legendary go ugh


Oh yeah
Plus it makes more sense since yknow Groudon isn't standing on some pathetic piece of rock

 

[Reindeer]

If they merge Emerald's storyline with OR/AS that'd be Emerald's storyline
It'd have to include both teams awakening both legendaries which leads to the Sootopolis Fight
Also where would the other legendary go ugh

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Oh yeah
Plus it makes more sense since yknow Groudon isn't standing on some pathetic piece of rock

Uh, maybe it goes back into its slumber? Or disappears? idk
R/S was the first one to have actual version exclusive legendaries, after all, since G/S allowed you to capture both Lugia and Ho-Oh in the same game. So I think they'd preserve the fact that you can't get Groudon in Sapphire and Kyogre in Ruby.

I guess we'll have to wait and see, though.

What's up with the blue on Groudon and the red on Kyogre in that picture?

 

[Shirohibiki]

lmfao it literally is like that though.

Rayquaza just comes down, goes "SHUT UP", then Kyogre and Groudon are all like "oh **** dad's home" and go away, then Rayquaza flies off. It's kinda dumb but I love it.

I CANT EVEN BREATHE ITS LITERALLY JUST AS YOU DESCRIBE ALSO??? KYOGRE IS LIKE "****TTTTTT -CASUALLY RECEDES INTO WATER-" AND GROUDON IS INCHING AWAY LIKE "uh yeah i actually have to call my gf?? sorry bye bro" AND OH MY GOD
then rayquaza just sits there for a minute like "Yeah that shut them up" AND FDSDGF wow amazinG

 

[Prof Gallows]

What would you want to see in the future in a Pokemon game that would be more fun to you?

Personally, I think XY was lacking in post-game activities other than the Battle Maison and Looker's events. I completed my Pokedex because it was something to do, then I just stopped playing after that.

Exactly that.

Post game content. They need to work a hell of a lot more on that. Be it more places to do battles, contests, even minigames. We just need more of it because the past few games the amount of things to do after the storyline has dropped a lot. Heck, given that this is Gen 3 remakes we may be getting the secret bases back. It's not a huge thing but that could easily be pulled into post game content. Earn special furniture items after the story is complete.

 

[kite]

As far as I recall, there were contests and the Battle Frontier in Emerald.

Maybe they'll add new events as well like the Celebi event & the Tohjo Falls event too, that'd be neat.

And yeah, a lot of people have been saying that the secret base feature would be nice since in RSE we just decorated without having people actually see them. Though secret bases weren't a big feature at all, so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't include it in streetpass. They're "secret" after all lol.

If not streetpass, it would be nice to have other characters drop by the secret base like the how characters would visit the Villa in Platinum! I always liked that aspect of the villa.

 

[Sleepy]

Secret bases were a really fun feature, for me at least! I loved decorating it and the fact that it was literally a cave was quite enjoyable to me. I agree that end-game content is a must. X and Y did a good job with the Friend Safari and such, but didn't quite give us a REASON to fill up our pokedex or continue training our pokemon other than for the sake of competitive battling. I think its a tried and true deliberation, however, that pokemon games need a little more endgame content that the existence of competitive battling. That being said, competitive battling was done very well in XY with certain improvements that were MUCH needed. ie. shutting off the game to end the match.