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This is everywhere already. I'm so sick of reading about shootings this week. I witnessed a car accident a few days ago. It was like the 20th one in the area that day. And I saw the people inside the car and started sobbing. My parents were just kinda like, "oh, well just be glad you're not them" and continued on. I was messed up for the rest of the day. It always seems as though bad things happen all at once. I'm just so exhuasted by all this death and injury...
I don't even know what to say, this is so awful. Over 50 people, killed, by a homophobic attack, in America, in 2016. It makes me want to cry, my heart goes out to the families of those affected.
Recently there has been so, so much death, it's disgusting.
Recently there has been so, so much death, it's disgusting.
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I just heard about this, it's so sad and I'm disgusted by this. It's annoying they are saying it has "nothing to do with religion" I'm pretty sure the shooter's religion played a big part in this atrocity
No, he was violently homophobic, people of every religion can be homophobic. Honestly this is another devastating part to these awful events, it's not only the victims and family of the victims that suffer, it's the innocent people who are needlessly targeted after events like this, just because of their religion or race. Attacks on people who are assumed to be 'terrorists' just because of their religion happened after 9/11, after the Paris event (and pretty much every other similar event) and will no doubt happen again.
It's an awful, awful event, but I'd leave religion/race out of it, that affects innocent people who are nothing to do with this.
Attack happened during Ramadan, after ISIS asked for terrorist attacks during this month (there already were attacks in Kazakhstan, Jordan, and Turkey). Omar Mateen is a known ISIS sympathizer. And unless I'm mistaken, ISIS is a terrorist organization that follows a version of the Muslim ideology, an organization that has killed many homosexuals due to this ideology. His religion and affiliation were going to be scrutinized from the moment he decided to carry out this attack.
And while I agree that Muslims shouldn't all be seen as some large group of terrorists, and that those that attack Muslims based on such simplistic notions should be punished, that doesn't mean we should conceal the truth just so we won't hurt a few feelings.
I FEEL YOU!!! please yall dont think all muslims are like this, this is against islamic laws anyway!! so sorry for anyone affected. i feel horrible.
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educate yourself before commenting.
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for the last time, ISIS are NOT muslim!! everything they do is AGAINST ISLAM!! have a good one
im not even muslim tho LOL thats why its funny im catholic and syrian and ppl still like to think im a terrorist
still feel u
Why does this ideology only apply to certain religions/races?
The fact is, religion didn't need to be brought up in this discussion, he didn't kill/attack those people because of his religion, he done so because he was homophobic. It's quite a lot more than just feelings that have been hurt because of this kind of thing, but I don't want to argue about this here, it's taking away from the lives that have been lost. However, I think your ideology is messed up, people are people, regardless of religion, race or anything else, and people are capable of horrible things. I can bet religion wouldn't have been brought up if the attacker was christian.
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Ramadan is supposed to be a holy peaceful month. not even cursing is allowed during Ramadan let alone kill innocent lives. thats 100% haram, you cant kill anyone unless you're at war/defending yourself/its legal by law. not gonna comment any further cause im not in the mood to argue with islamphobia and racism especially not during Ramadan. have a good day yall
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not to mention, crazy how if this was a white christian person for example, nobody would say **** about his race/religion
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not to mention, crazy how if this was a white christian person for example, nobody would say **** about his race/religion
It doesn't. People are trying to find a reason behind why it happened. If you'll remember the terrorist attack in Norway in 2011, the white perpetrator's motivations were also questioned, including his religion which was (wrongfully) presumed to be Christian (he was agnostic, if I remember correctly).
Omar Mateen's motivations are being questioned, as they should be, and evidence suggests that this attack may have been influenced by his religion. That's why it's being reported on, not some bull**** racist/Islamophobic reason like you want to believe.
I never said anything bad against Ramadan, I only presented the facts as they were. ISIS called for attacks during Ramadan, I don't see how that is taken as Islamophobic. That would mean that saying Obama is black is racist.
Ramadan is one of the most respectable times of any religion, one in which people try to understand the struggles of the poor and homeless. I can respect that fully, that's way more than I ever have done. But that doesn't change the fact that a Muslim terrorist organization called for attacks during this time.
And, to respond to what you said earlier (that ISIS is not Muslim), if I were to say that you're not Muslim, would that make it true? I can't decide your religion for you, so I don't think you can decide the religion for thousands of people in an organization. Their version of the ideology is not yours, that's all.
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tearypastel
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some christian people are known for being very homophobic, that would be spread around a hell of a lot too (this is a generalization i'm not saying you can't be christian and gay!! you can be love whoever, identify as whatever and believe in whatever no matter what)
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debinoresu
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i wouldnt blame religion, i would blame misinterpretation of religion and personal ignorance. christians commit acts of terrorism, as do atheists, any person with any religious stance is capable of any crime. it is a personal flaw, not a religious flaw. no where in anyones religious text does it say "shoot up gay nightclubs." dont blame an entire religion for this one mans actions, regardless of if his personal religious interpretation resulted in this action, it was very much his own delusion to blame.
i wish people would push aside his religion and focus on the horrific hate crime that has been committed instead. i hope this opens eyes to how ignorance is still very much alive from people who thought it died alongside the gay marriage bans.
i wish people would push aside his religion and focus on the horrific hate crime that has been committed instead. i hope this opens eyes to how ignorance is still very much alive from people who thought it died alongside the gay marriage bans.
It was a hate crime, against lgbt+ people, I think it's pretty clear what his motives were.
tearypastel
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aside from the analyzing aspect of it:
it's actually made me so ill thinking about who that could have been. it makes me ill thinking about who it was! somebody's gonna wake up and go 'my son is dead because of a person with a gun that disliked him.' somebody's gonna go 'where's dad?' and somebody's gonna have to reply 'he's in heaven.' somebody's going to have to face the realisation that their boyfriend is dead. their wife is dead. their cousin, neighbour, their repairman, the person they once sold that chair to is dead. because of a person who couldn't control themself and had to shoot an entire club up. it's a hate crime, and a travesty, and if some old white guy with a billion bucks behind him doesn't realise that 'hmmm, maybe gun laws are a bit too lenient here' then i will never have faith in humanity again.
it's actually made me so ill thinking about who that could have been. it makes me ill thinking about who it was! somebody's gonna wake up and go 'my son is dead because of a person with a gun that disliked him.' somebody's gonna go 'where's dad?' and somebody's gonna have to reply 'he's in heaven.' somebody's going to have to face the realisation that their boyfriend is dead. their wife is dead. their cousin, neighbour, their repairman, the person they once sold that chair to is dead. because of a person who couldn't control themself and had to shoot an entire club up. it's a hate crime, and a travesty, and if some old white guy with a billion bucks behind him doesn't realise that 'hmmm, maybe gun laws are a bit too lenient here' then i will never have faith in humanity again.
what? i never said you said anything about ramadan. i was saying if they were really muslims no matter what their "ideology" is they'd know that. they're not muslims hunty. muslims dont kill muslims.
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i know someone's gonna point out their christian but lets face the facts, they wouldn't recieve this much hate and generalization. christians arent the ones who are always called terrorists and are always being questioned and getting looks. i've even been asked if i'm carrying a weapon before when i was in USA, because my mom and sister were wearing a hijab. and whenever i would speak arabic i would get SO much looks. its not even about feelings anymore at this point lots of people fear us for no reason
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