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As much as I like the Animal Crossing fandom, I've always had an appreciation for the roughness of the Pokemon fandom. Once in a while, it's kind of refreshing to debate with someone. The Pokemon fandoms is one of the vaster and more diverse ones on the internet, so there are a lot of conflicting opinions. It's kind of fun to get out there and argue a little with someone. Even though we may never see eye to eye, I get to share my ideas, and I get to listen to someone elses. It can get a little irritating sometimes, because it occasionally seems constant (my beef with people complaining about starters). However, I will admit that this annoyance of mine is misguided, and that I should be more open to others critiques.

Pokemon is just a game that it's easy to get passionate about, I suppose.
 
Exactly.
But TBT is good at having conflicting opinions being accepted by both parties. Normally.

I don't really understand some of the hostility, not only here but in the entire Pokemon fandom.
 
Well to cheer you all up after those negative posts:

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Most adorable Pokedex entry ever.
 
Let's start a list of the cutest pokemon ever now.

Starting:
-Emolga
-Pacharisu
-Chimchar
-Oddish
-Buneary
-Skitty
-Continue


Hopefully there's no conflict on this
 
I think it's partially a leftover component from childhood. Every generation brings a new thing for people to argue about.

Gen 1: The "which starter is better" was the main point of debate.
Gen 2: This brought the beginning of genwars, and whether adding new Pokemon is a good thing.
Gen 3: The biggest debate that came out of here was people not liking that you couldn't transfer your pokemon, and people didn't like how much the mechanics had changed (at first).
Gen 4: Too many evolutions, too many legendaries.
Gen 5: Too many new Pokemon, whether gamefreak is running out of ideas.
Gen 6: New type? Forms? 3D? We'll see.

People joke about how the Pokemon franchise never changes, but in reality, it changes a lot. The roots always stay the same, but every generation is really different from one another. It isn't like other series where you can see a progression over the years, because each generation is made to be released on another console. So each jump to the next generation is always really big. Change is a natural catalyst in disagreements, so people begin to separate based off of what changes they want, and don't want. Also, the more generations that people can compare to one another, the more likely they are to search for the "best" and the "worst" in everything.

It's also different from the Animal Crossing fandom simply because it's much bigger. As anyone who has played Call of Duty online before, knows that the more people that are playing, the more likely you are going to have people who are mean. Bell Tree doesn't see it a whole lot because the forum is decent sized and the trolls and bullies can get weeded out pretty quickly. A bigger forum simply can't monitor as many people, so you are more likely to have problems and bickering because there aren't enough mods to contain everyone. So the same goes for the Pokemon fandom. It's so big that not every argument can be broken up. The only choice of the rest of the fandom is to simply adapt to the environment by becoming more vocal, or they can simply leave.

I looked into this more than I probably should have.


Aww. Everyone made up while I was still being negative. For the record, I still love you all :).

And I think the cutest Pokemon are:





and baby Stantler from the anime.
 
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I can see the reasoning behind that.

I started off with gen 1. I loved it so much when I was a kid, and I played it every day, brought it to school, and seriously put a ton of time into it. Then Silver and Gold came out, and instantly I knew it'd always be my favorite. I don't really know what it is. Could be that it was like two pokemon games in one. Being able to fight all of johto, do the elite four, and all of kanto.
But I think it was just everything in general about it. The story was really well done, the pokemon designs were great, the day/night system, eggs, genders, and then the flipping games were in color when Crystal came out.

The generation favoritism is going to be an inevitable. But as long as people see the good things in all of the generations, there shouldn't ever be a problem.

@sora

No idea. Mawile gets a ton of attention, so it's strange that they haven't touched on an evolution, or even a pre-evolution.
I guess they think it's good as it is. But I beg to differ. Mawile could have a really awesome evolution if they really put their minds to it.
 
Now I started with Gen 3 and always favored it. I thought it was the best pokemon game ever and I never wanted to try Gen 1 or 2. I did move to Gen 4 and Gen 5.

But I was never so biased as some people to reject or look down on other generations. I love many of the original pokemon and use some of them in my late game. I always wanted a Charmander and a Chikorita.

In my opinion, I think pokemon is really trying to get new fans interest in old pokemon as well as old fans interest in new pokemon with new evolutions. Before I was old enough to think any better, I thought eevee was a gen 4 and that Oddish was a gen 3. Pokemon is obviously trying to get unity among fans and gens. And I hope this new gen succeeds in adding a balance of evolutions and new pokemon.

On another note:

Anyone find all this speculation and rumor to be very fun? I mean Na and Eu have never experienced this (and Au). We always havexJapanese footage and imported games. I am really glad Nintendo is building worldwide hype.
 
Yeah. The worldwide release has got to be the best/most exciting thing about pokemon right now.

Nobody will know anything before anyone else, in terms of the game. Japan still has Pokemon Smash, but even then they won't be getting any information on the game before anyone else.

I'm hoping for some awesome music in this game. B/W had some cool music, but it still could have been better I think.
 
I know they must be hiding something from us if

A) they don't include starter and legend typing at E3

B) they don't release the map until launch

C) they tell us nothing



I can't even imagine what they have up their sleeves. I know they won't disappoint if they are keeping so much under wraps.
 
Whatever it is they do have planned, I like the approach they're taking with it.

If they're wanting to get new players into old pokemon, making evolutions for the older pokemon who don't have any will probably do the trick.
I keep wishing for a third Koffing evolution. I have it planned out and everything. =[
It'll be called Choking, and to get it you have to trade a Weezing holding a king's rock.


and I will love it forever.
 
Honestly, some people don't realise that their Chespin, Froakie or Fennekin will be equivalent to our Charmander, Bulbasaur and Squirtle.
 
I started in Gen 1, but Gen 3 is always going to be my favorite. I can't even explain why... I think they got the feeling so well. I've loved every gen though. Gen 4 has been my least favorite, but that's like choosing my least favorite dollar bill. All of them have brought something great.

I'm so happy they are doing a worldwide release. This is going to be my first time going in blind since Pearl, and I'm really psyched. And a prevo/evo that I want is a plusle/minun evolution. I'm thinking it could be like remoraid where you have to have one in the party in order for it to evolve, or maybe like shelmet and karrablast.

I mostly just want it so that I can eviolite Plusle :p.
 
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