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Prof Gallows
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If you've trained it right, a Chansey with eviolite can be a complete beast.
(not really relevant but yolo) Chansey is such an underrated Pokemon, I had one in Leaf Green and it was so powerful and **** like I loved her so much she was a complete beast she could defeat almost anyone.
Everyone knows Blissey is a tank tho
Treasu(red)
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I love my Blissey. EV trained HP, Sp Def and Def with Flamethrower, Toxic, Heal Bell, and Softboiled. It's funny because she looks so cute... but then she's all Here have some poison.. heal you? Hahahaha--*flamethrowers your face off*
I love the idea of saying our dream teams.
My dream team:
Milotic
Blissey
Braviary
Latias
Eevee
Lopunny
Treasu(red)
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Also I've been playing the metagame and my best sp sweeper, by far, is my Milotic. What people don't often understand is you can breed Milotic to know hypnosis. A hypnosis Milotic is like learning the Titanic is sinking right after you take fast-acting Lunesta. You're going.. to die... I don't even choice band/scarf her. Don't need to. Splash plate's all she needs.
... I've been working on making my "dream team" reality for a few years now on and off. I should really make a post detailing out my beautiful pokemon.
... I've been working on making my "dream team" reality for a few years now on and off. I should really make a post detailing out my beautiful pokemon.
Prof Gallows
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On normal terms, yeah. But a properly trained Chansey with eviolite completely stomps Blissey out of the park.
I dunno about Chansey being underrated though. Competitively I see it used a lot. But non competitively yeah, it's pretty underrated, like most normal pokemon are.
Yeah tbh I never use Normal Pokemon... lol
oath2order
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Do it!
Blissey and Chansey are among my favorites. I have a lot of favorites, but I remember always wanting a Blissey as a kid, and struggling to catch Chansey. I used one in Firered, and I love the thing, and if she ends up in the regional Pokedex, I'm going to train one properly.
I'm actually planning on doing EV training for gen 6 and I'm rather excited for it.
I'm actually planning on doing EV training for gen 6 and I'm rather excited for it.
oath2order
#Porygon2024
EVs are effort values. They are hidden numbers that essentially give you better stat gains upon levelling up. IVs do the same thing. However, EVs can be raised and lowered, IVs cannot. Every Pokemon gives a certain type or types of EVs upon defeat.
Since the Pokemon of discussion is Chansey, I'll give information about her. The absolute minimum special defence she can have with no EVs, and no IVs, along with a hindering nature, is 99 at level 50, and 193 at level 100. However, with 252 EVs in health, 31 IVs in health, and a helpful nature, she will have 172 special defense at level 50, and 339 health at level 100.
You can see how it's extremely helpful to have IVs.
Each Pokemon you battle carries a certain amount of effort values. Such as, rattata carries one attack EV. If you defeat the rattata, you will then receive one attack EV. In total, your Pokemon can gain 252 EVs. However, EV training is about manipulating which EVs it receives, because four EVs equals one point to the specific stat. Lets say you want to get a high Special Attack, you go out and defeat 252 Pokemon that give out Special Attack EVs. You will then gain 64 points in your special attack stat. You have to be very precise with which Pokemon you defeat, because then you won't get your stat maxed out.
I'm not really sure how IV's work, because you generally have to breed for IVs and it's really boring. IV's help out a ton, but the process of getting them seems very tedious and uninteresting, at least to me. Plus, I like the idea of sticking with your Pokemon and bringing out their strength rather than having to hatch, release, hatch, release.
Not quite correct - in total your Pokemon can get 510 EVs, and a maximum of 252 per stat. This leads to the most common "sweeper" sets of 252 in Atk or Sp. Atk, 252 in speed, 4 in HP and 2 left over which don't matter. There are ways to increase the rate at which you gain EVs. Also, those vitamins that you never really knew what they did - each one gives 10EVs in its specific stat, but they stop working if you have more than 100 in that stat. So you should start with vitamins and THEN EV train. There are berries that reduce EVs in a particular stat if you screw up. With the latest generation, EV training is a lot easier and less time consuming
IVs behave like genes. Each stat has an IV value of between 0-31, and that's how much extra in that stat you get at lvl 100. So normally, a pokemon with 31 in all stats is desirable (there are exceptions). IVs also determine the typing and power of Hidden Power. IVs are pretty much random and are set at birth or encounter. However, you can chain breed IVs onto babies. Babies will inherit some IVs from each parent. There are also items that can influence what gets inherited. IV breeding is the most luck dependent and frustrating.
Also, there was the old story about if you use too many rare candies, your pokemon will be weaker. That is partially true. A pokemon cannot gain more EVs if it's at level 100 because it can't gain experience. This means that if you rare candy all the way to 100 without battling, your Pokemon will have no EVs. If you fully EV train, then rare candy the rest of the way, that's absolutely fine. With the introduction of "EV training shops" in B/W 2, I don't know if you can get EVs via those shops at lvl 100
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Officer Berri
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@_@ Yeah IVs and EVs make my head spin and I tend to ignore them.
I really don't like IVs, dream abilities, egg skills and such. I liked pokemon before someone could manipulate their pokemon to make you feel like a crappy pokemon trainer. I mean I couldn't even go only in black and white without being pounded into the groud with my naturally trained pokemon. Why can't we just go back to the days when pokemon was simple? I mean egg skills can stay and so can shiny but the rest I wish would go.
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