Old Pokemon General(RIP)

[Prof Gallows]

I'm not really sure about the timeline.

In G/S, the use of apricorn pokeballs is still pretty common in Johto which hints at mass produced pokeballs being a relativally new thing. Backing this even further is Drayden, who mentions in B/W2 that when he was young, there were no such thing as pokeballs at all. They hadn't even been invented. Back then people trained with pokemon and "caught" them on trust alone. He also mentioned that trainers who were mean to their pokemon could just simply run away or leave, and that no longer can be the case since they're trapped in a ball a lot of the time.

That to me says that the timelines are somewhat happening at the same time, other than gen1 and gen 2.
Drayden can't be extremely old. I'd say he's probably in his fifties or sixties, so if pokeballs were invented when he was young(I'm assuming he was at least a teenager at the time), then the whole prospect of owning and training pokemon is pretty new to the world. Back in his day, it was probably only a select few people who went through the effort of training pokemon, forming a bond with them, and having adventures.
Then pokeballs were invented and that effort was slimmed down. Kids could go out and catch these pokemon and train them without having to worry about them running away or lashing back at them. The idea of going out and training must have become more and more popular, and eventually a company(Silph Co), took it a step further and took those little machines inside of apricorn shells and placed them into synthetic, mass produced versions of themselves and offered them to the world for a price.
That idea skyrocketed, people and kids all over the world could now go out and buy these pokeballs and catch their own pokemon, and people started to compete with each other on a wider scale.
This inspired the production of hosted challenges, events, and eventually a nation wide league. Gym leaders were chosen, an elite 4 was formed, and somewhere along those lines a champion was placed. It caught on in the other regions and eventually started forming through the whole country.
I mention this specifically. The locations in all of the pokemon games are called regions. So in my head, this means that they're all the same country. For all we know, this country could be the only one in the entire world that has pokeballs and trains pokemon. The rest of the world could be completely different.

 

[Juicebox]

I'm not really sure about the timeline.

In G/S, the use of apricorn pokeballs is still pretty common in Johto which hints at mass produced pokeballs being a relativally new thing. Backing this even further is Drayden, who mentions in B/W2 that when he was young, there were no such thing as pokeballs at all. They hadn't even been invented. Back then people trained with pokemon and "caught" them on trust alone. He also mentioned that trainers who were mean to their pokemon could just simply run away or leave, and that no longer can be the case since they're trapped in a ball a lot of the time.

That to me says that the timelines are somewhat happening at the same time, other than gen1 and gen 2.
Drayden can't be extremely old. I'd say he's probably in his fifties or sixties, so if pokeballs were invented when he was young(I'm assuming he was at least a teenager at the time), then the whole prospect of owning and training pokemon is pretty new to the world. Back in his day, it was probably only a select few people who went through the effort of training pokemon, forming a bond with them, and having adventures.
Then pokeballs were invented and that effort was slimmed down. Kids could go out and catch these pokemon and train them without having to worry about them running away or lashing back at them. The idea of going out and training must have become more and more popular, and eventually a company(Silph Co), took it a step further and took those little machines inside of apricorn shells and placed them into synthetic, mass produced versions of themselves and offered them to the world for a price.
That idea skyrocketed, people and kids all over the world could now go out and buy these pokeballs and catch their own pokemon, and people started to compete with each other on a wider scale.
This inspired the production of hosted challenges, events, and eventually a nation wide league. Gym leaders were chosen, an elite 4 was formed, and somewhere along those lines a champion was placed. It caught on in the other regions and eventually started forming through the whole country.
I mention this specifically. The locations in all of the pokemon games are called regions. So in my head, this means that they're all the same country. For all we know, this country could be the only one in the entire world that has pokeballs and trains pokemon. The rest of the world could be completely different.

Actually, if you go to Iccarus city in the winter, you can climb up a snow bank. There you meet with the old Team Rocket Grunt from Heartgold/Soulsilver. He will state that when he came back to his home country (Unova) he met his wife. They then had a son who is in the house with him. The son is a youngster, so he must be at least 8 years old.

http://youtu.be/-3RhHMWXIHQ?t=1m14s

That shows the the Unova games do indeed take place in the future, because time would have to allow his son to age all the way. Cynthia also references the Sinnoh player character by saying that she hasn't battled like that for years, and also mentioning how the player was a lot like you. Team Plasma also references all the evil teams and states that there plans have already failed, and that leads me to believe that Ghetis constructed his evil plan by learning from the mistakes of the other teams.

Sinnoh is generally implied to be closer to gen I in the timeline because it makes references to the gen II events rather than the gen I events. Gen III doesn't seem to have a place in the timeline, but the orbs appearing in Heartgold/Soulsilver seems to imply that they have been removed from Hoenn. If they had been taken from Hoenn, then the entire storyline couldn't have happened.

 

[Prof Gallows]

So if Unova is even further into the future, then Drayden saying what he did, that puts the whole timeline back even further than what I had previously thought.

The items in the games I think are just there for the sake of giving you more out of the game. Supposedly there are only one of some legendary pokemon, yet you can get multiple ones. There are going to be a lot of flaws in a game like pokemon with it's story and it's gameplay.

 

[Sora]

About the whole dad thing, if anyone here has been watching the current BW series, Bianca's dad shows up. He is worried about her and wants her to come home. Apparently he is a business man and can never come home. But, he challenges Bianca to a battle to detirmine if she is strong enough. I sorta wish your dad would appear in game like this more often. Like a sorta minor rival who you want to impress. But my main dream is that you begin having siblings for once. It would add a bit more to the story especially if they were your rival. I think family is something Pokemon should focus on more.

 

[Prof Gallows]

About the whole dad thing, if anyone here has been watching the current BW series, Bianca's dad shows up. He is worried about her and wants her to come home. Apparently he is a business man and can never come home. But, he challenges Bianca to a battle to detirmine if she is strong enough. I sorta wish your dad would appear in game like this more often. Like a sorta minor rival who you want to impress. But my main dream is that you begin having siblings for once. It would add a bit more to the story especially if they were your rival. I think family is something Pokemon should focus on more.

Anime pokemon world and game pokemon world are two completely different things. I know you didn't make a huge reference, but still. As for family, that isn't what pokemon is really about. You're off to have an adventure and to experience the world for yourself. Yeah, if your mom would check in at times during the main plot it would be nice, but as a whole focus, no way.

I'm not trying to push your opinion away or anything, but I think that the family stuff is fine as it is. They should focus more on a new one to go about the game's plotline. As was previously mentioned, the whole "start adventure, catch pokemon, plan to fight gyms, get caught up in bad guy nonsense" is getting stale. It works, but it's still getting old.

 

[oath2order]

Yeah. It works but it is getting old. I mean, I'm definitely buying X no matter what the plot is, but I do wish they'd expand A LITTLE on it. Some forms of media can be really good at entertaining children, yet still manage to be interesting for adults. Pixar comes to mind for this. They have plots that are simple enough for children to understand, yet adults still love it. I wish Nintendo was able to pull that off with Pokemon.

 

[Juicebox]

So if Unova is even further into the future, then Drayden saying what he did, that puts the whole timeline back even further than what I had previously thought.

The items in the games I think are just there for the sake of giving you more out of the game. Supposedly there are only one of some legendary pokemon, yet you can get multiple ones. There are going to be a lot of flaws in a game like pokemon with it's story and it's gameplay.

I personally never viewed legendary captures as cannon, because the character is never required to catch them. I've always though that they are battled, but then they are always left free. I know that the multiple legendaries are just a case of gameplay and story segregation, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't need to have a story purpose as well. Plus, it's entirely possible that some Pokemon do indeed have multiples in the species. Obviously the legends like Groudon or Arceus can't have multiples, but I don't see any reason why the bird trio can't. It's never explicitly stated that there can only be one legendary, they are just shown to be very rare and very powerful.

I don't actually recall correctly, but I'm pretty sure Mr. Pokemon tells you that the R/S character is the one who gave them to him. I can't remember though.

 

[Prof Gallows]

I don't consider catching the legendary pokemon part of the plot either. To me, doing something like that would mess up the balance that is there for some of them, and would make you an unbeatable trainer. And yeah, I go with some of them having multiples. The bird trio would be one case where they're just extremely rare to the point where only one has ever been seen. I'd say the same for Latios and Latias as well. They can both turn themselves invisible and alter their forms, so they could be hiding in plain sight.

But some of the legendary pokemon, especially in R/S, really show how extremely powerful they are. It would be just as bad for a normal trainer to catch either of them than it would have been if Magma or Aqua had. Those pokemon aren't meant to be trained and caught. Same goes for Dialga, Palkia, and especially Arceus. These are pokemon of myth. The only recordings of them were cave drawings. The sheer power these pokemon have should make them impossible to catch, but for the game's sake, they're catchable.

 

[Juicebox]

I don't consider catching the legendary pokemon part of the plot either. To me, doing something like that would mess up the balance that is there for some of them, and would make you an unbeatable trainer. And yeah, I go with some of them having multiples. The bird trio would be one case where they're just extremely rare to the point where only one has ever been seen. I'd say the same for Latios and Latias as well. They can both turn themselves invisible and alter their forms, so they could be hiding in plain sight.

But some of the legendary pokemon, especially in R/S, really show how extremely powerful they are. It would be just as bad for a normal trainer to catch either of them than it would have been if Magma or Aqua had. Those pokemon aren't meant to be trained and caught. Same goes for Dialga, Palkia, and especially Arceus. These are pokemon of myth. The only recordings of them were cave drawings. The sheer power these pokemon have should make them impossible to catch, but for the game's sake, they're catchable.

I agree. I think that the main character battles with the legendaries, but catching them causes too many problems. The only canon capture is Reshiram/Zekrom in Black and White. My head canon for Red has always been that the reason he stopped being the Champion is because he lost to Mewtwo and he felt too defeated. There's no evidence for this of course, I just think that it makes convenient sense.

 

[Little Joey]

Gen I and III happen around the same time. Gen II and IV happen three years after. Gen V happens a few years later, alone unless VI happens alongside with it.

Source

 

[oath2order]

Interesting timeline. I wonder when the new generation will take place.

 

[Juicebox]

Gen I and III happen around the same time. Gen II and IV happen three years after. Gen V happens a few years later, alone unless VI happens alongside with it.

Source

That's a fanmade edited website, so it's not perfectly credible. It's true that gen III and gen I are close to each other in the time line, but gen II and gen IV, while close, aren't perfectly concurrent with one another. The Red Gyarados would have had to be captured/fought in order for the news report to have happened. Gen III is implied to take place near gen I, but we don't have enough evidence to say if it's taking place at the same time, or if it's the case with gen II and IV, and the events are just very close.

There's also many assumptions made about the spin-offs that simply cannot be proven in any way. The events of Colosseum mentioned no other region, so saying that it takes place 2 years after II and IV is stretching it a lot.


So although it's interesting, it's just another fan theory technically. I personally think that gen 6 will take place after B/W2, but only by about a year.

 

[Prof Gallows]

Yeah, that timeline isn't legit. They're even counting in spinoff games, which don't tie in to the main series whatsoever.

 

[BellGreen]

So a new TCG expansion has been planned for release on May 8!



There's going to way more EXes this time. I'm definitely going to end up getting it.

 

[Officer Berri]

Man, the Pokemon Cards seem soooo complicated now. What the heck is an EX card? I remember when the cards were just the pokemon and then the trainer cards...

 

[Stevey Queen]

Man, the Pokemon Cards seem soooo complicated now. What the heck is an EX card? I remember when the cards were just the pokemon and then the trainer cards...

They are Pokemon that went through a bad breakup.

 

[Prof Gallows]

The Plasma freeze cards are neat. They remind me a lot of the old Rocket cards.

and EX cards are like special versions of normal cards. They'll normally have a move that has some sort of additional effect or an ability. And if you knock out an EX pokemon, you take two prize cards instead of just one.

I'll use one of my ex cards as an example. I've got an EX Mew from Dragon's Exalted. It's ability is Versatile, which let's it use any attack of any of my pokemon I currently have in play, as long as you have the energy cards attached to Mew to use them, and it's only move on the card itself is Replace, which lets you move as many energy cards you have attached to your active pokemon around as you like. So you could take all of your energy cards and put them on Mew, if you wanted.

Some EX cards can be tricky to use, but they tend to be pretty powerful.

 

[oath2order]

Wow, it's like another language, lol.

 

[Juicebox]

I never got to play the card game. When I was a kid, my sister and I went down to the store a couple of times to buy cards. The problem was that she always got super nice, cool, and rare ones, while I got all the worst cards. I just gave up on buying them after a while, because I was tired of just having energies and Nindorans all the time.

That being said, I'm jealous of my friends with the giant binders XD.

 

[Officer Berri]

Some days I wish I had kept the packaging the original booster packs came in. I miss them. xD They'd have been a nice little thing for me to collect.