Old Pokemon General(RIP)

[Prof Gallows]

I can believe it coming from some of you, because I've deduced that some of you are insane.

Cute pokemon are what is killing the series for me. I get the whole appeal in Japan, where the whole cuteness factor is a major marketing magnet. But I really don't like it when I'm battling and my pokemon has huge eyes and looks like something a baby would play with. I'd really like for more serious looking pokemon to be introduced.

I'll let it slide for the Eevee evolution though, it's the only one aside from Eevee itself that is over the top cute.
Also, I'm 100% sure it's normal type and I'll bet that it evolves with either some wacky, completely unique method(like Oath said about Silph Co), OR it'll evolve with a dawn stone. Because that seems like the easiest thing to do with it.

Whoever brought up the thing about Silph being similar to Sylph, you're right! That's where the company gets it's name from. Sylph are air spirits, and Silph Co invented the Silph Scope, to identify invisible spirits. ☆========

Two of those fakemon are really bad looking. That one on the bottom has Paras' pincers even. But that ghost one looks kinda cool.

 

[Jake]

The Silph Scope thing was cool to bring up, but I don't think it's correct.

It's a cool theory, but Sylveon's Japanese name is ニンフィア (Ninfia) and the Silph Scope's Japanese name is シルフスコープ (Silph Scope)

The Japanese spelling of the Silph Scope and Sylveon don't have any common spelling; I think if it were true, the Japanese would be in the same instance as the English and have a pun or something on Ninfia's name


I do think Sylveon is Normal type (like seriously, I don't see why people on other Pokemon forums are complaining about it being normal type I don't care); it used a variety or types of attacks in the trailer which can show it can be a normal type due to it's move pool.

The only reason why I don't see it as flying is;
i) Pure flying? They already had Tornados (Tornadus? idk the spelling) as pure flying, and thats a legendary. Seems to lose its uniqueness if Sylveon is made pure flying
ii) I don't see wings (that's stereotyping or w/e but idc)
iii) Let's be real here - they didn't waste much time announcing the types of the three starters (haven't mentioned the legends type either). It seems pretty odd they'd announce this new Pokemon and not give us the type. Especially labelling it as '???' on the website.


There's been a demand on having a light type for a while now, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they add a light type in (or something equivalent), and make Sylveon a light type (along with the two legends since they don't have a type yet). It's a new game on a new platform, why not add a new type.



Idk I just dont see it as a flying type (I can see it as a normal type but honestly I don't see why'd they do that) - they have the perfect opportunity to add a new type, why not add it. Seems really sus they're not revealing the type so...

 

[Prof Gallows]

Light type is already introduced. In Japan, their psychic type is called "Light".

It's exactly the same thing, either way you want to roll with it. Psychic and light, that is.


I also don't agree with the comparing of Silph to the Eevee evolution, I used Oath's example just as an example of something wacky they would do for it to evolve.
I really loved the trump card animation.. it's the only one I could 100% identify in that little teaser video.
ANYWAY.
It being a flying type is just.. ridiculous. It doesn't look ANYTHING like a flying pokemon would look like. It has every characteristic of a normal type pokemon, being that it's cute, pink, and doesn't have any distinguishing features that prove otherwise. I don't understand how the thought of it being flying could even form.. it doesn't have wings, or feathers, or.. anything that could suggest that.

I'm all for a new type, but like I said, they wouldn't be able to add an actual "light" type, due to it already being in the Japanese games, which is our psychic type.

 

[Jake]

Light type is already introduced. In Japan, their psychic type is called "Light".

It's exactly the same thing, either way you want to roll with it. Psychic and light, that is.

I'm all for a new type, but like I said, they wouldn't be able to add an actual "light" type, due to it already being in the Japanese games, which is our psychic type.

The Japanese name for Psychic is エスパー (Espee) wut?


And even if the Japanese name was Light, that doesn't mean the English can't be called Light, obv the Japanese equivalent would be named something else...

Best way I can explain this is through Animal Crossing villagers.
In the Japanese version, there is a Rhino named Patty, but in the English there is a cow named Patty - if your argument/point/whatever was valid, that would mean that this would not be possible as Patty already exists in Japanese thus blocking it existing in a different form (in this case a villager instead of a type) in a foreign game

 

[Prof Gallows]

Hm. I got my sources mixed up on that part. It's actually Esper, not Espee. It's referring to ESP. So essentially, it's another way of saying psychic.

I'll be sure to give my other source a good kick in the pants for making me look like an idiot. =p

I'm not against a light type, but I would need to see it work statistically. Obviously it would be the complete opposite of dark, so dark would have something other than fighting to be super weak against.
But then light would need a weakness. I would be for light and dark being strong and weak against each other. Would make for some pretty interesting battles.

But it would have to factor into the other types as well. Ghost would probably be weak to Light.. but that's all I can think of at the moment. I'd really like to see some NEW type ideas being thrown around. Light types have been suggested and thrown around ever since Gen 2.

 

[Jake]

Hm. I got my sources mixed up on that part. It's actually Esper, not Espee. It's referring to ESP. So essentially, it's another way of saying psychic.

actually the ー on the end makes the 'e' sound longer so it's spelled 'ee' but pronounced 'er'
sry i done being a smart ass now

But ya, I am really interested to see if it is light how that would work out.

 

[Prof Gallows]

I know how it translates damnit! I'm a Professor, not a doctor!(I have a doctorate, though.)

With them bringing the game up so suddenly and unexpectedly, we really can't tell what they're going to do next. New types? Possibly. Seems like there is new everything for this generation. New transportation method(rollerskates), new region and pokemon, new evolutions for older pokemon, etc.

Which is something I hope they do more of, as well. I'd love to see a third stage for Koffing that involves the use of a King's Rock. It'd be perfect. It would be called Choking.
Some first and second gen pokes need some evolutions. Some of them still have only one in their line. Type variations are something else I'd like to see more of. Still want a Grass/Fire, Poison/Rock, Poison/Steel..

 

[Sora]

Don't you dare shoot down my flying idea! I say those ribbons are just bent up helicopter wings. And as I said before, Shaymin looks like a basic grass type, but it is a flying as well (no wings). Also as said before, Sylph are air spirits! (according to you Mr. Dr. Pf. Gallows)

 

[Prof Gallows]

That's Mr. Professor Doctor Gallows to you!

I'm going to laugh very, very hard when we come up with all of this and it ends up being fighting type.
Shaymin was special, legendary pokemon don't have rules. The design screams normal type.

It's color scheme even matches some other normal pokemon!
Snubble, for example, is also pink and blue. But to me, it looks a lot like Delicatty with Mienshao's arms and a Gothita bow.

Any of those types I could believe, but don't. I'm adamant that it's normal type. From the other types that Eevee doesn't have evolutions for, it makes a lot of sense for it to have one that stays normal type.

 

[oath2order]

I hate the idea of having a normal Eeveelution, mostly because that's what Eevee already is.

 

[Hey Listen!]

I want more cool bad-a looking Pokemon like Tyranitar, Garchomp, BLASTOISE, and Zoroark. Although since most Eevee evolutions are cute they're also not stupid

 

[Rover AC]

I was just thinking....
You know what I would like to see make a come-back? Walking with Pokemon outside of their Pokeballs. Because that was freakin' awesome. Yes the feature wasn't essential to actual gameplay but it did enhance it and, I must admit, made the experience of bonding towards your Pokemon a-lot more enriching.

Ok, I know what you're thinking, devoted TBT reader, "But, Rover! Their virtual!" Yes, well done my educated poster, but that is beside the point. The feature made the feeling of raising your Pokemon more enjoyable as you could take them to certain places and see how they would react. You could learn (which I did) that Pokemon with quiet personalties tended to dislike areas such as Goldenrod city and the Pokathalon in SoulSilver. It was cute and unnecessary but fun!

So, Nintendo, bring back the feature of walking with Pokemon outside of their Pokeballs (working on a shorter title).

Do it. Do it. Do it now.​

 

[Sora]

Another point I have:
Nintendo released a diagram recently of all of the eeveelutions plus Sylveon. Of course the opposites were opposite: Ice-Water, Grass-Fire, Psychic-Dark, Electric-Ground or Flying. Sylveon is going to be the opposite to electric so it must be flying or ground. So... my bets are on it being flying because its a bit too AMAZING to be a ground.

 

[Prof Gallows]

Do it. Do it. Do it now.​

I agree completely. Letting your pokemon walk outside of their pokeball with you was one of the best features in the games that the feature was in. It does give you that sense of a closer bond, if you plan on sticking with that pokemon to the very end. It also makes it much less isolated, like the games can tend to be. Walking through a cave or a dark forest alone.

I've played Soul Silver over more times than any other pokemon game due to the fact your pokemon walked with you, and due to the fact that gen 2 was my favorite, but that's besides the point.
In the sense of the game, having your pokemon with you made you feel like it was experiencing everything at the same time as you did because it was walking with you to see it all.

Aside from the fact gen 6 is on the 3DS(finally), and that everything in it is completely new. Putting that one feature in it would have made the game ten times better.

 

[Officer Berri]

I agree completely. Letting your pokemon walk outside of their pokeball with you was one of the best features in the games that the feature was in. It does give you that sense of a closer bond, if you plan on sticking with that pokemon to the very end. It also makes it much less isolated, like the games can tend to be. Walking through a cave or a dark forest alone.

I've played Soul Silver over more times than any other pokemon game due to the fact your pokemon walked with you, and due to the fact that gen 2 was my favorite, but that's besides the point.
In the sense of the game, having your pokemon with you made you feel like it was experiencing everything at the same time as you did because it was walking with you to see it all.

Aside from the fact gen 6 is on the 3DS(finally), and that everything in it is completely new. Putting that one feature in it would have made the game ten times better.

I agree completely. Having the pokemon walking behind you was just awesome. It made me feel like the pokemon were actually characters in the game. Not just some mass of pixel I put into battle to throw effects at another mass of pixels. For the series being called 'pokemon', the pokemon really don't do a whole lot besides stare at each other and throw cool visual effects at each other. Having the player interact with their pokemon actually changed that for me. |: And then they took it away.

 

[Treasu(red)]

I really liked having pokemon follow me too. It's exactly like what you're saying. You don't feel so alone in the game. It feels like you and your best partner are on a grand adventure. ^^

 

[Dustbunnii]

I also really enjoy having a pokemon walking with me. Makes it seem like you've actually got a relationship with them.
I wish it was an option in all of the games .___. but alas, it is not.

 

[Treasu(red)]

My hubby found something on imgur today and wanted me to see. It was this:

 

[oath2order]

My hubby found something on imgur today and wanted me to see. It was this:
View attachment 2840

Yeah, that's pretty much it XD

 

[VillageDweller]

Another point I have:
Nintendo released a diagram recently of all of the eeveelutions plus Sylveon. Of course the opposites were opposite: Ice-Water, Grass-Fire, Psychic-Dark, Electric-Ground or Flying. Sylveon is going to be the opposite to electric so it must be flying or ground. So... my bets are on it being flying because its a bit too AMAZING to be a ground.

http://prntscr.com/t3gk0 <---- Bad diagram but explains it
Follow the arrows..

Flareon > Glaceon
Umbreon > Espeon
Leafeon > Vaporeon

Vaporeon > Flareon
Glaceon > Leafeon

...Jolteon > Vaporeon
And then if you flip it and apply that to the bottom..
Sylveon > Leafeon

That's just my twisted idea.
I don't even want it to be flying-type but there you go
GO NORMAL TYPE EEVEELUTION