Non-amiibo villagers like Raymond/Audie/Judy/Sherb getting duped by savestates

[shrimplings]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1247958717431197696

PSA: please don’t harass anyone mentioned, let others play the game they want! at least those out of this website. i’m just here to show precedent of villager duping!

Raymond and other villagers like Audie, Judy, or Sherb can be duped by savestates. Maybe it's just me but honestly it could be a blessing in disguise because the non-amiibo villager demands have become absolute nightmares. Seen some auctions where it took 1k TBT/NMT to win Raymond, practically impossible to win as a legit player unless you're a veteran with some TBT.

But either way, it's still a cheat and I'm not sure if people know about this. There could be dupes in villager trading boards of high demand villagers.

Spoiler: Proof of Duping

https://twitter.com/x/status/1247643572079190017

https://twitter.com/x/status/1247644142676647936

https://twitter.com/x/status/1247907799771709445

https://twitter.com/x/status/1247404139467943936

Nekojiima is decently known in the AA community/ twitter furry community, so there’s confirmed one person to receive a possibly duped Raymond.

 

[eladisland]

Good to know! Thanks for sharing that.

 

[intestines]

I'm definitely not going to participate in villager trading any time soon, people have such a high demand for villagers like Raymond and Audie so many can find it easy to exploit. I just wish there was more proof relating these villagers being exploited with savestates. Not to mention that twitter post can also be fake, I've been seeing some stuff around with people doing giveaways for many of these desired villagers but when they are finished no one hears a word.

 

[gravyplz]

Sad to see an exploit when it's so satisfying getting these villagers from islands rather than just amiibo ( I was lucky enough to get Audie and Raymond by mistake in under 10 tickets each!)

 

[shrimplings]

I'm definitely not going to participate in villager trading any time soon, people have such a high demand for villagers like Raymond and Audie so many can find it easy to exploit. I just wish there was more proof relating these villagers being exploited with savestates. Not to mention that twitter post can also be fake, I've been seeing some stuff around with people doing giveaways for many of these desired villagers but when they are finished no one hears a word.

your suspicions are incredibly understandable, however the user’s method of savestates are quite believable. the probable process is

1. exploiter pushes desired villager into a box
2. exploiter backs up save externally
3. person comes in to claim villager
4. exploiter reloads savestate
5. loop step 2-4

it’s probably similar to the NMT duping, mailing items to a person and reloading to get the stacks back

 

[Lio]

The fact they post a PayPal link, too, is kind of iffy, IMO.

 

[intestines]

your suspicions are incredibly understandable, however the user’s method of savestates are quite believable. the probable process is

1. exploiter pushes desired villager into a box
2. exploiter backs up save externally
3. person comes in to claim villager
4. exploiter reloads savestate
5. loop step 2-4

it’s probably similar to the NMT duping, mailing items to a person and reloading to get the stacks back

That seems completely plausible, Its definitely something for Nintendo to prevent. I hope they will do something soon! as mentioned by Lio that Paypal link also reminds me of how people on ebay are selling 500 nook tickets for $20, they're probably using save states to 'duplicate' these items.

 

[CowKing]

Yep, I saw this coming

 

[rianne]

I'm sorry but what. Not surprising but still wild.

 

[eat]

Honestly, the whole Raymond situation feels more and more like some underground black market activity than actual trading.

 

[Garrett]

Yeah, I haven't done any villager trading and doubt I will. I'll stick with excursions and my stack of amiibo cards. Hopefully all this nonsense will get patched.

 

[Splinter]

I'm getting flashbacks of that town in New Leaf where all the villagers were Marshal.

 

[misery]

How does this work?

 

[LightFromFable]

Yeah go on ebay and people are selling nook tickets, villagers, bells, tools etc

 

[elphieluvr]

I’ve always been of the opinion that you can play however you want if you aren’t affecting anyone else’s enjoyment (for sure, duping villagers or items and selling them for real money counts as affecting others; giveaways are debatable). But what really bugs me about behavior like this is that Nintendo and other game companies scramble to close these loopholes and prevent exploits, and it eventually makes everything harder/less convenient for players who don’t exploit. An example would be the lack of compatibility with Nintendo’s existing cloud save backups, to prevent save state exploits.

And as someone who has an almost unhealthy aversion to anything I consider cheating in this game, I feel for anyone who acquired a dream villager like Raymond and then later found out it was acquired through duping. I know I would be super upset with myself.

 

[irl Raymond]

I’m not all for the online economics except I’d just like Raymond in my village so i can move on with life.

I’m an inch away from buying the tickets on eBay out of desperation lol

 

[Vex L'Cour]

I spotted on ebay people selling Raymond for a... "Deal"

Ok, he looks cool and all but holy hell..

 

[Romaki]

Well, that's terrible regarding resellers and such. But it also means more non-amiibo villagers in circulation, so it helps us in general.

 

[EpiDemic]

come on, we don't get cloud saving to prevent this things, but hacking ppl can use this for their advantage?
for real?

 

[cheezu]

I fell for this trap back in NL days and actually paid real money for a few million bells to acquire my dreamie, Zucker.
I guess I was just naive back then but also because of how the villagers were auctioned/priced, I virtually stood no chance to ever get him unless I went that route.
I feel like with the Island tours, at least Nintendo are giving as a fairer chance this time around - for example, I managed to recruit Sherb to my delight. However; not everyone will be this lucky. I read about people spending 200+ NMT's and still not being able to find who they wanted.
At this point, this is a good money-making scheme as I can imagine many many people going for it to get their favorite villagers/NMT's, etc.