My rant about buying/selling villagers.

I've seen people accept bells for popular villagers in the millions but part of the problem with the bells vs NMT is twofold:

- CURRENTLY Bells don't do as much in ACNH as they did in ACNL, making them worth less than they used to be (home expansions are cheaper & you do less of them, you can make tons of bells a day just hitting rocks lol not to mention they simplified the trees). not to mention the duplication glitch flooding the market with bells.

- Nook Miles Tickets are harder to obtain @ 2000 NM per ticket (grinding nook miles will take you hours) & provide more utility by letting the player meet new villagers & island hop. You can get rare islands & you can cycle thru tons of villagers by using NMT & if you don't TT, there's basically no other way to get your dreamies but to hope a nice friend gives them to you or wait on your campsite... for months lol.
 
I've seen people accept bells for popular villagers in the millions but part of the problem with the bells vs NMT is twofold:

- CURRENTLY Bells don't do as much in ACNH as they did in ACNL, making them worth less than they used to be (home expansions are cheaper & you do less of them, you can make tons of bells a day just hitting rocks lol not to mention they simplified the trees). not to mention the duplication glitch flooding the market with bells.

- Nook Miles Tickets are harder to obtain @ 2000 NM per ticket (grinding nook miles will take you hours) & provide more utility by letting the player meet new villagers & island hop. You can get rare islands & you can cycle thru tons of villagers by using NMT & if you don't TT, there's basically no other way to get your dreamies but to hope a nice friend gives them to you or wait on your campsite... for months lol.
Don’t even get me started on having less home expansions in NH 😡
 
This is what makes me terrified of searching for my dreamies. I can't shell out 50-100+ NMT just to get a villager. At least in the days when they sold for TBT, the prices were not only reasonable (100-300TBT for high tier), but you could earn the amounts just by actively posting and being a member of this community.

But now, with my poor luck (and it taking ages to even get people to leave so I can search for new residents), it'll probably be quite some time before I get my absolute favorite villager (Beau) and my other dreamies.

I know that it's inevitable that the economies get blown to heck in games like this, but it does make me sad to see. One of my friends wants to get a Switch soon and play her first AC game with New Horizons. She's already fallen in love with the wolf villagers and I hated to tell her how hard they would be obtain outside of sheer luck. Not that I won't do my best to help her, too, but... it's really daunting when you look at the prices on their heads.
 
Honestly, I can live with the inflated prices. That's just how economy functions. I think the biggest gripe is that the spark to where we are is due to glitching and cheating bells or tickets. This creates a lack of trust and possible resentment; "did I get outbid by somebody that cheats? Because if so that's unfair". There is no way to tell whether resources are earned, resulting in a more fragmented community. It's safe to assume that a big reason why we're at this point is because of glitches. But there's no point to complaining, the damage is done. My friend tends to say "grind, glitch, or get out the way". Unfortunate but true
 
At the height of New Leaf, I sold Drago for nearly 65 million bells, or about 260 NMT. Things were crazy then but somehow it seems even crazier now.

Especially with the avaliability of amiibo, the costs of trading in this game are insane.
 
Some people do earn the tickets more or less legitimately, though not in a way I’d be able to reconcile with my playstyle.

I saw someone say that they host cataloging in return for NMT, earning them ca. 100 each day they do it. While that’s a pretty fair price imo, I just wouldn’t have enough items worth offering since I don’t TT or want to go and catalogue them from others myself.

It being how it is, I think particularly real-time players have a hard time competing in the market at the moment. I’m just glad that I’m in no desperate need for any one villager or thing, and can just ignore the whole mess if I want to.
 
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Turning the villagers into an economy is definitely the weirdest aspect of multiplayer. It's stupidly overpriced, but people are stupidly desperate to grind for it and get the cool new villager. Some of them might be duped, but I think people are more likely to create new characters to grind starter nook miles achievements and drop bought nook miles ticket on their island before deleting the character.

It's all very weird, I would recommend going to more obscure places to find a more reasonable way to trade for villagers.
 
While I've played almost all AC games, this is the first time I take a peek at the online community, guided by a friend who has been active for years. I have to be honest, I feel terribly bad about how much some people have to save up to get the characters they want. I tried to join the economy but then I realized that:

1) I don't like to sell villagers, I prefer an exchange were we both get characters that we like, or just give away for free those who decide to move from my island and I don't really need staying for longer that they have been (I like to get to know them a little at least) or that are actually my friend's dreamies. Please do not believe I'm against this practice, my friend has a cycling thread and I'm happy to see her selling other people's dreamies while she searches for her own.

2) As someone who doesn't have a regular free schedule I could never compete against those super high prices even if I wanted to buy characters.

My biggest concern right now is people buying villagers outside this place, as I've seen on websites like Nookazon. It's a cool website, or at least it was for a while, I've been selling items and giving away characters there too, but now a lot of scammers are using characters such Raymond or Judy to scam newbies that don't understand yet how to avoid problems in exchanges.

The good thing about this economy is that is not mandatory, you can get everything by your own in your game, it's not like some MMO were someone gets a time limited item only a few could get and it's impossible for others to find it again.

Also the NMT economy is getting worse outside this website, I've seen people asking for tons of NMTs for the most basic items.
 
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It being how it is, I think particularly real-time players have a hard time competing in the market at the moment. I’m just glad that I’m in no desperate need for any one villager or thing, and can just ignore the whole mess if I want to.
^ I agree with this. My playstyle with any game I play has always been to be a completionist (doesn't help that I'm impatient) and therefore TTing isn't a big deal to me, but I can imagine how much harder it is for people that don't (I do respect non-TTers though, I feel like you enjoy the game more!). For example, spending about an hour or two browsing Nook's Cranny and I can already make at least 50-100 NMT. I mean...people will pay you NMT to do the most basic things like gathering wood or watering flowers. And you can make a decent amount of NMT by letting people into your island to get DIYs. So from a TTer's perspective, the economy is bustling right now.

Also want to add that I don't really play the stalk market, but lots of people with high turnip prices can charge you NMT to go to their island to sell turnips. So to make money (bells), you have to spend money (NMT). XD
 
It's frustrating for sure, but I've met some immense kindness in finding a villager I wanted that was out of my reach because of his price. There are still reasonable and fair people, just not as many of them.

I wouldn't mind the prices if people would accept things OTHER than nmts, like bells or TBT. I don't even really understand why people need so many NMTS. Once you get all your dreamies, islands are useless aside from if you are really short on resources. Unless you get a villager, sell them for NMT to hunt villagers to sell them for NMT in an endless cycle which seems a bit time consuming for little payoff.

tl;dr why do people even want NMT when they don't even do much

AGREED! like damn you don't even want bells?? which is the PRIME currency in the game? how you gonna pay off your house loan with NMT -_-
 
AGREED! like damn you don't even what bells?? which is the PRIME currency in the game? how you gonna pay off your house loan with NMT -_-

I've legit had someone tell me "I have no need for bells."
Meaning they either did the dupe glitch or get REALLY lucky with stocks cause what the heck, how do you not need bells? Unless you TT like mad and play stocks, you kind of always need them?
 
Yeah, the villager trading economy feels pretty gross and antithetical to the spirit of the game to me. I really appreciate it when I see someone posting a free trade or a giveaway when they have a camper or someone moving out that they know is popular. Reminds me that the community is still a community most of the time.
 
Why would anyone need 2000+ NMT?? @w@ I just don’t get the appeal. The islands aren’t even all that tbh, but maybe that’s just me 😂 If the person had a villager that would sell for that much, why not trade him for your favorite villager, items or a (hopefully) reasonable amount of bells? My brain is confuzzled (>人<; )
 
I've met people that genuinely don't even know why they are asking for NMTs, they do it because other user's do it.

I think it's fair to ask for them, since I also stack on some from time to time just in case a villager wants to move, and I like to gather resources or check if I'm lucky and I get a special island, but just thinking about spending 500 NMTs makes me dizzy.

I'm pretty sure as I said, that there are a lot of users that don't even use them and trade them back since it seems to be a ''coin'' that lots of players prefer over bells.
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Why would anyone need 2000+ NMT?? @w@ I just don’t get the appeal. The islands aren’t even all that tbh, but maybe that’s just me 😂 If the person had a villager that would sell for that much, why not trade him for your favorite villager, items or a (hopefully) reasonable amount of bells? My brain is confuzzled (>人<; )
I think I can see why someone having an expensive villager wouldn't just trade it. First you would have to find someone that has your villager, but if your villager is for example certain cat boy I can see people searching for your dreamie to exchange it. But then here's the thing, most people have more than one dreamie, and if you have the opportunity to sell Raymond and get enough NMTs to buy all or most of your dreamies why ask for just one?
 
I will just stick with the villagers I have. I didn't like that 2 of them just showed up and left me unable to search for one I prefer instead. Luckily I had one move out and was able to use one of my Amiibo cards and got June, (i dont keep up with popular villagers, lol) but she's still not my favorite. I would love to have Bluebear and Beau back. I had them in acnl.
 
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I think the trick here is being lucky enough to be online when the right 'sellers' are online. I've been extremely fortunate with the kindness of members here when I was looking to adopt certain villagers. None of them have charged me NMT. Mind you, I only could have offered 10 at the most because I'm poor with nook miles at the moment, but they never even tried to charge me either. So while there is certainly a lot of greed out there, I can at least share that I've encountered some very kind and generous people!
 
I've given away and received one villager (both were free exchanges) through Discord. Luckily, the server I'm on has a subform where people give out their villagers for free, but I've seen some of the crazy prices. Honestly, seeing how crazy Raymond's are makes him one of my least favorite villagers now.
 
I've given away and received one villager (both were free exchanges) through Discord. Luckily, the server I'm on has a subform where people give out their villagers for free, but I've seen some of the crazy prices. Honestly, seeing how crazy Raymond's are makes him one of my least favorite villagers now.
I'm in two AC Discord servers, and while in the smaller one people just give away their villagers for free, the other one as it grew and new members came... Even people who had given away villagers for free started charging. There was this user that took a photo of her amiibo cards and her prices were crazy! Luckily I stopped her quickly from scamming some newbies, as she had stated there wasn't any other way to get those villagers than her amiibos. People can take advantage of new players and for a wholesome game like AC, it breaks my heart to see it
 
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