My mind hurts...

[Morkie]

This is SO weird!

Maybe our mind has some kind of power to control things that we cannot understand yet? Maybe we will never understand it. Maybe it would be like trying to teach a dog algebra...impossible.

 

[D1llon]

Oh ****...

 

[Mino]

I doubt the idea that our brains can control things explains this. I think it has something to do with a part of physics we simply don't understand yet. But I believe this mystery will be solved one day.

 

[Bacon Boy]

I doubt the idea that our brains can control things explains this. I think it has something to do with a part of physics we simply don't understand yet. But I believe this mystery will be solved one day.

This. You also have to take into account that electrons are negatively charged particles. Wouldn't putting another variable in there, such as the measuring device which also contains electrons & protons, change the outcome? The fact that the device was close to the electrons might have changed the whole thing, since the electrons might have a) repelled against the electrons in the device or b) reacted to the protons. Either way, I agree with Trevor, I doubt our brains can control things explains this. Like I said, my theory is that the device might have affected the outcome.

 

[Vex L'Cour]

This. You also have to take into account that electrons are negatively charged particles. Wouldn't putting another variable in there, such as the measuring device which also contains electrons & protons, change the outcome? The fact that the device was close to the electrons might have changed the whole thing, since the electrons might have a) repelled against the electrons in the device or b) reacted to the protons. Either way, I agree with Trevor, I doubt our brains can control things explains this. Like I said, my theory is that the device might have affected the outcome.

We need Heartfout to explain, he does physics at Uni..

 

[muffun]

This. You also have to take into account that electrons are negatively charged particles. Wouldn't putting another variable in there, such as the measuring device which also contains electrons & protons, change the outcome? The fact that the device was close to the electrons might have changed the whole thing, since the electrons might have a) repelled against the electrons in the device or b) reacted to the protons. Either way, I agree with Trevor, I doubt our brains can control things explains this. Like I said, my theory is that the device might have affected the outcome.

The measuring device wouldn't likely have an effect on the electrons as it would (presumably) have an equal number of protons/electrons, which yields a neutral charge, and therefore no attraction nor repulsion to or from the machine. It's also unlikely that someone would build a device with an uneven balance between the subatomic particles for then it would be unstable, and no one likes instability.

 

[«Jack»]

The measuring device is interacting with the electron, which changes its quantum state. It has to physically interact in some way, or otherwise, nothing would change in the measurer, and therefore, the measurer wouldn't detect anything. It's that interaction that causes it. The only analogy I can think of is Schr?dinger's Cat. The cat has to be considered dead and alive at the same time (in terms of a quantum state), but when you observe it, its quantum state changes because your viewing it is a form of interaction.
Why exactly this interaction changes its behavior, I have no idea, but I felt like this explained a bit of it.

 

[Morkie]

I was watching another explanation of this, and they did suspect the camera might have some kind of interference on it, so they tried it two times, one with the camera facing away, and one with a cover over the camera, and the particles acted as if the camera wasn't there, so the camera wasn't interacting with the electron. They've also done this experiment with other particles, such as photons and neutrons, and get the same results. Weird...it's like it knows that you're watching it.
Even Einstein didn't have an explanation for the quantum world, and apparently he was about ready to find an answer for it right before he died.

 

[Chimera]

I thought it was explaining how light behaves like waves and particles. The paradox.

 

[«Jack»]

I was watching another explanation of this, and they did suspect the camera might have some kind of interference on it, so they tried it two times, one with the camera facing away, and one with a cover over the camera, and the particles acted as if the camera wasn't there, so the camera wasn't interacting with the electron. They've also done this experiment with other particles, such as photons and neutrons, and get the same results. Weird...it's like it knows that you're watching it.
Even Einstein didn't have an explanation for the quantum world, and apparently he was about ready to find an answer for it right before he died.

See, it's that watching that is the interaction. In order for the camera to record the electron's path, it has to receive some sort of input from the electron, which means the two are interacting (I don't know how it was measured, my best guess is detecting tinier particles from the electron). If the camera's not recording, there's no record being taken, no input, and no interaction.

 

[Morkie]

Some have suggested that the weirdness of the quantum world might imply alternate universes. Really weird...this video explain a lot of the different views. Be warned, it's a very lengthy video.

 

[Brad]

AGH science!!!