mini-rant about villager auctions

[Littlered]

i understand why people put their high demand villagers up for auction, i personally think they usually sell for way too much but many people are willing to pay so i 100% get that part.

BUT why does everyone demand you have a plot open immediately??

when you make a bid for a villager, someone very well might outbid you, or perhaps they don't. but if they do outbid you, then you have an empty space that you have to fill ASAP or risk a random villager moving in. idk if someone is paying hundreds of nmts, i feel like the seller should be able to wait a couple hours max for them to tt to get someone out.

I think that should be a rule-if you auction off a villager, you can't demand they already have an open spot and need to let people have at least 1-2 hours after winning an auction to get a villager out of their island. do you think that's unreasonable?

 

[raqball]

I think that should be a rule-if you auction off a villager, you can't demand they already have an open spot and need to let people have at least 1-2 hours after winning an auction to get a villager out of their island. do you think that's unreasonable?

Disagree...

If the rules of the ad are to have an open plot and someone does not then they should not be bidding...

Why should the seller be at the mercy of someone else who may not ever get that plot open. The seller is then waiting for hours only to move onto the next bidder...

If the seller says you must have an open plot then so be it and do not bid if you don;t... You can always message a seller and ask if they can give you time before you bid. If they agree then bid away.

I honestly do not understand your reasoning... The seller should be allowed to dictate their sale, within reason, and not be held hostage by a bidder...

 

[courtky]

I understand what you're saying but I think you're looking at it wrong because you aren't a seller in this situation. It is just frustrating as a seller to have someone bid and win and not have an open plot ready. Why should the seller have to wait for you? What if you back out of the auction / never get the plot open in a reasonable time? It's a hassle and people don't like waiting. Also, most auctions have a timer and if you know you're about to win then it wouldn't be hard to have a plot open.

 

[chewya]

i agree with both sides of these arguments. i agree that a seller can wait for an amount of time, because if most are willing to hold an auction that lasts for an hour or two, then they don't seem to be in any rush to get that villager out (i.e aren't under a time crunch). yet at the same time, i do agree that if you don't have an open plot to begin with AND can't quickly move someone out when you win, you should not be bidding. it's not so black and white, there are gray areas.

 

[peachycrossing9]

Disagree with you there.

If you get a villager from someone, and you know for sure that you are getting them, you should have taken the time beforehand to move out another villager and have a plot ready. The seller shouldn't be made to wait around just because you were unprepared.

But I guess if it's a last minute thing, then fair enough. But if you know in advance that you're getting said villager, don't make the seller wait. Prepare a plot and have it ready. That's my opinion.

 

[June]

i get it, but as someone who's given away/adopted out villagers with a fee i have to say i understand others who ask for people to have open plots ready too cause they'd probably want to get along with their game sooner rather than later. i ask for the same, and when i'm looking for villagers i only look when i have an open plot o: just figured it would be common courtesy

i think it's reasonable to ask, say, you need a couple of minutes to an hour at least but it's def much more convenient all around if bidders/buyers go into it with an open plot already

 

[chewya]

Disagree with you there.

If you get a villager from someone, and you know for sure that you are getting them, you should have taken the time beforehand to move out another villager and have a plot ready. The seller shouldn't be made to wait around just because you were unprepared.

But I guess if it's a last minute thing, then fair enough. But if you know in advance that you're getting said villager, don't make the seller wait. Prepare a plot and have it ready. That's my opinion.

i also agree with your point, however, most in an auction don't know that they'll be the ones winning the villager, until sometime after a bidder quits replying and in the tiny window of time that the seller decides to end the bid.. i think in that moment you should be prepared.

 

[Hedgehugs]

Definitely can see your point and almost agree with it but what's stopping you from just finding another auction for the same villager?

 

[Hay]

While I get your opinion I disagree. Im gonna put my view from both sides and just say how I feel.

As a seller: Its very frustrating to sit and wait for the pm saying the person is ready. I set long auctions for people to try and get an open plot! I do not mind waiting but I do have IRL things to do sometimes, and can miss out on giving the buyer the villager on time. I can also miss out on the deal due to missing the pm if I was unavailable. I also think you should have a plot ready just out of common courtesy. I see it as buying an item off ebay or facebook marketplace that is pickup available, but then saying "ya I have no room for it give me like a day". I always say this but yes I know its not that deep, its just an example c:

As a buyer: Ive been there! Ive bidded while still trying to kick someone out, and its super embarrassing to PM saying "oops im sorry im not ready..". It now puts pressure on me to TT quickly, due to myself not having an open plot. I see where someone could say "but if you didnt have to have open plot you wouldn't feel pressure!" and yea I see that, but I would probably be a lot slower with my TT, and some people could not even try till the next day, letting the seller sit there, not being able to TT and play the game 100%. (No im not saying you have to TT to play the game correct, Im going off what I do)

 

[peachycrossing9]

i also agree with your point, however, most in an auction don't know that they'll be the ones winning the villager, until sometime after a bidder quits replying and in the tiny window of time that the seller decides to end the bid.. i think in that moment you should be prepared.

Oh yes, that's true. I was more talking about if it wasn't an auction situation and you had just straight bought the villager from someone.
But yes, if it's an auction and you're not for sure if you will get the villager or not, that's understandable.

 

[stargurg]

i just don't think someone should bid or attempt to buy a villager unless they have an open plot, like someone else said its common courtesy. i personally tt to sell items on nookazon, and having to wait on someone so i can continue my other trades would be bothersome.

it is understandable, but the seller also has to put their game on hold untill the buyer is ready.

that being said, it would be completely unreasonable to make it a rule.

 

[FireNinja1]

I disagree. I think that people are free to set the terms of bidding as they please. Even still, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask winners to be able to pick up immediately after the auction ends. Villagers cannot be held for long periods of time. I'm not sure if TTing lets you keep a villager in boxes for longer, but even if it does, there's enough people who are opposed to the idea of TTing that it's unreasonable to expect someone to TT just to keep them in boxes for you. Even if the villager is from a cycle town, holding a villager prevents someone from cycling for more villagers, since they can't TT to the next day.

Not asking bidders to have a plot open immediately after the auction ends opens the possibility for someone to win the auction and not be able to pick up. Even if most bidders are well-intentioned, people who are auctioning villagers should not be required to open themselves up to the possibility that someone could fail to follow through with their end of the deal.

 

[Voodoo]

This is an issue circling morality.

In a perfect world, people adopt a villager at god speed and everybody moves on with their day.

But the world is not perfect.

Some consumers have outside chores or responsibilities that take priority, or perhaps they refuse to time travel (a whole can of worms I’m not gonna touch). At the end of the day it’s reasonable that there should be a timeframe.

But villager selling is an economy. In most cases, sellers want to move on with their cycling as fast as possible. While this may not seem fair to the buyer, the seller is actually losing a lot of marginal opportunity.

the rules already state that end times will be provided for auctions. If the buyer has doubts that they won’t be there at the time, it’s their responsibility to withdraw. If an unforeseeable event occurs where they miss the time window, well it’s certainly unfortunate but that’s how it be

 

[BalloonFight]

Definitely disagree. If a seller sets rules for an auction, one can always look for another auction for that villager. The most annoying thing as a seller is when someone wins the villager, then tries to open their plot for 3 or 4 hours, then ghosts you for the rest of the day. Most of the time when selling a villager, you as the seller want to go island hunting asap once the auction ends anyway. Having to wait multiple hours after an auction ends when the buyer should already have an open plot is just wasting your time.

 

[chewya]

Definitely disagree. If a seller sets rules for an auction, one can always look for another auction for that villager. The most annoying thing as a seller is when someone wins the villager, then tries to open their plot for 3 or 4 hours, then ghosts you for the rest of the day. Most of the time when selling a villager, you as the seller want to go island hunting asap once the auction ends anyway. Having to wait multiple hours after an auction ends when the buyer should already have an open plot is just wasting your time.

i see what you mean, although this feels more on the extreme side of things, or perhaps it's just me? it only takes me about half an hour to an hour to open up a plot (given how most of my island is dreamies), and the mention of ghosting for the rest of the day seems very.. unlikely? unless you yourself have had that happen to you multiple times, i apologize, but i just don't see most people doing that out of courtesy for the seller. like i said, i agree with most all points spoken in this thread, but some of these scenarios feel a bit on the extreme side

 

[Cadbberry]

i see what you mean, although this feels more on the extreme side of things, or perhaps it's just me? it only takes me about half an hour to an hour to open up a plot (given how most of my island is dreamies), and the mention of ghosting for the rest of the day seems very.. unlikely? unless you yourself have had that happen to you multiple times, i apologize, but i just don't see most people doing that out of courtesy for the seller. like i said, i agree with most all points spoken in this thread, but some of these scenarios feel a bit on the extreme side

You would be surprised, people do it very often. I've had people ask me for villagers, be in contact all day and the moment the deadline comes up, radio silence. Its kinda the risk of selling anything, people get it for another price, bid on multiple auctions, don't have space, so they don't contact you despite winning

 

[chewya]

You would be surprised, people do it very often. I've had people ask me for villagers, be in contact all day and the moment the deadline comes up, radio silence. Its kinda the risk of selling anything, people get it for another price, bid on multiple auctions, don't have space, so they don't contact you despite winning

really? i must admit, i am definitely very surprised. i apologize to balloon then, mostly because i was speaking from my own thoughts and beliefs for what to do during an auction. i never would've thought that many people really ghosted at the last minute!

 

[Cadbberry]

really? i must admit, i am definitely very surprised. i apologize to balloon then, mostly because i was speaking from my own thoughts and beliefs for what to do during an auction. i never would've thought that many people really ghosted at the last minute!

I wish it didn't happen so often but most just look for the best price and don't mind if others are inconvenienced. Despite that not being everyone's way, it is how some people act. Not just on bell tree but on other sites, it is just the nature of the game.

 

[Cethosia]

I think what someone can do, is TT to the point someone asks to leave and not talking to them until the bidding is over. At that point, getting an empty plot doesn't take long. You need an empty plot if you really don't time travel though.

There is a reason they ask for you to have an empty plot, because trying to move out someone can take a long time. You also need to factor in things like timezones. They just cannot hold the villager forever

 

[edsett]

really? i must admit, i am definitely very surprised. i apologize to balloon then, mostly because i was speaking from my own thoughts and beliefs for what to do during an auction. i never would've thought that many people really ghosted at the last minute!

I’ve had someone on Reddit who kept me waiting for more than three hours to pick up a villager. I ended up trading with someone else. After that I started using the ‘must have free plot’ rule.