Mayhem over Raymond.

I adore Raymond and I am so happy to have him on my island. I was so lucky to find him in only about a dozen tickets. He's so cute and charming, definitely a stand out as a fan of Smugs. However, I do think all this madness surrounding him is absolutely ridiculous. And people who take advantage of people's desperation are just as bad as the fanatics themselves.

All in all, people on all sides need to calm down. Raymond stans aren't owed anything, harassing someone who has him is unacceptable, period. Raymond haters aren't making the stans like him any less and honestly, I hate all the mean-spirited memes and art surrounding an otherwise harmless video game animal. It just makes the fan space feel unpleasant overall. And scammers of all spades are just jerks hands down.
 
2xdinosaurs said:
I adore Raymond and I am so happy to have him on my island. I was so lucky to find him in only about a dozen tickets. He's so cute and charming, definitely a stand out as a fan of Smugs. However, I do think all this madness surrounding him is absolutely ridiculous. And people who take advantage of people's desperation are just as bad as the fanatics themselves.

All in all, people on all sides need to calm down. Raymond stans aren't owed anything, harassing someone who has him is unacceptable. period. Raymond haters aren't making the stans like him any less and honestly, I hate all the mean-spirited memes and art surrounding an otherwise harmless video game animal. It just makes the fan space feel unpleasant overall. And scammers of all spades are just jerks hands down.
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Someone drew Raymond "in boxes" like, his "not alive" body in boxes as a joke. (not gonna describe in full detail sorry)
I mean, some Raymond stans are crazy but this is kinda disgusting too ngl. I mean it's a joke but a disgusting one.
 
Daaaang, Raymond is the marshal of NH. Except for the fact that I don't know how bad marshal was because I was just playing NL with 3 of the most popular villagers without even knowing it.

In all seriousness though Raymond's popularity needs to die, BUUT OF COURSE THEN AUDIE WOULD RISE UP AND CYCLE #2 WOULD START :(

seriously if anyone deserves this popularity it's Barold, not because he's good but like I actually want to see people fight over a bearded cub.

(I actually like raymond now only for the design but would never have him on my island because Marshal is best smug)
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Dormire said:
Someone drew Raymond "in boxes" like, his "not alive" body in boxes as a joke. (not gonna describe in full detail sorry)
I mean, some Raymond stans are crazy but this is kinda disgusting too ngl. I mean it's a joke but a disgusting one.
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R.I.P Raymond :( I actually feel bad for him, being treated like barold or limberg is better than this. Nintendo stop torturing this innocent cat and release amibos already
 
I wasn't fond of Raymond but later got curious about the hype surrounding him so I looked for him using the campsite method. I had to work for it because he didn't appear until the 43rd camper, so yeah, I felt accomplished and moved him on my main island. 2-3 days later, I found him again as my 3rd camper (lol I was shocked while campsite resetting for a snooty). Then for the 3rd time, I found him on mystery islands and later moved him on my daughter's island. A month later, I moved him out of my main island (first Raymond) coz I couldn't really feel the connection. I love Marshal and even Julian more as a smug. Right now, he's just there chillin' on my "cycling/side" island and me still feeling undecided if I should sell him or just whatever. I'm not moving him back again to my main, that's for sure.
 
Dormire said:
Someone drew Raymond "in boxes" like, his "not alive" body in boxes as a joke. (not gonna describe in full detail sorry)
I mean, some Raymond stans are crazy but this is kinda disgusting too ngl. I mean it's a joke but a disgusting one.
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Oh, how charming. 😕

Overexposure of anything in fandom can be irritating, I get it, but this feels overblown far beyond anything I experienced in the New Leaf days.
 
Loriii said:
I wasn't fond of Raymond but later got curious about the hype surrounding him so I looked for him using the campsite method. I had to work for it because he didn't appear until the 43rd camper, so yeah, I felt accomplished and moved him on my main island. 2-3 days later, I found him again as my 3rd camper (lol I was shocked while campsite resetting for a snooty). Then for the 3rd time, I found him on mystery islands and later moved him on my daughter's island. A month later, I moved him out of my main island (first Raymond) coz I couldn't really feel the connection. I love Marshal and even Julian more as a smug. Right now, he's just there chillin' on my "cycling/side" island and me still feeling undecided if I should sell him or just whatever. I'm not moving him back again to my main, that's for sure.
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If your not worried about making money you should look around at people's posts and see who wants raymond, if you do that than you should give raymond to the least toxic user
 
Unhappyhome said:
R.I.P Raymond :( I actually feel bad for him, being treated like barold or limberg is better than this. Nintendo stop torturing this innocent cat and release amibos already
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It was really graphic. I get that his popularity and scammers gravitating towards him is annoying to a lot of people but Raymond never wished for any of this (he's just binary data). It's just sad he's taking the full blunt of the hate and not the people overhyping him. People just started to call him ugly or voiding him out of spite. I mean, maybe some people do think he's ugly but in the situation he's in right now (popularity-wise) it kinda sound petty and mean. And to think people would draw graphic depictions of him kinda irks me a lot. What did he even do to warrant that?

I mean maybe I sounded bias and whiny because I like him but when people addressing the popularity and scamming issue that's always directed to Raymond himself and not the people doing it.

2xdinosaurs said:
Oh, how charming. 😕

Overexposure of anything in fandom can be irritating, I get it, but this feels overblown far beyond anything I experienced in the New Leaf days.
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Agreed. Like, come on. Really? I get it's a joke to the "in boxes" scam but...really?
 
Loriii said:
Thank you for the advice. I'm still contemplating on his fate though.
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If you decide to sell him that's also fine, I could care less but honestly the people who like TRULY like raymond and aren't over-obsessive fangirls deserve him.
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Dormire said:
It was really graphic. I get that his popularity and scammers gravitating towards him is annoying to a lot of people but Raymond never wished for any of this (he's just binary data). It's just sad he's taking the full blunt of the hate and not the people overhyping him. People just started to call him ugly or voiding him out of spite. I mean, maybe some people do think he's ugly but in the situation he's in right now (popularity-wise) it kinda sound petty and mean. And to think people would draw graphic depictions of him kinda irks me a lot. What did he even do to warrant that?

I mean maybe I sounded bias and whiny because I like him but when people addressing the popularity and scamming issue that's always directed to Raymond himself and not the people doing it.



Agreed. Like, come on. Really? I get it's a joke to the "in boxes" scam but...really?
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Yes he's a pixel cat but Raymond is treated like he brought this on himself (like you said)

Honestly I love all the villagers in my town, they are friends to me and not just pixels, but this seems way too far fetched. If raymond really did have feelings he would've loved this attention when it was tame (which it never was) but now it's the murderous paparazzi kind of fame
 
Unhappyhome said:
If you decide to sell him that's also fine, I could care less but honestly the people who like TRULY like raymond and aren't over-obsessive fangirls deserve him.
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haha maybe I should wait for the hype to tone down a bit, assuming I've decided that I don't need anything for him. By the way, I love your avatar, foxtrot!
 
I really don't understand what's so great about Raymond. He's not even a nice villager, he's smug. I don't think he's really all that nice in comparison to other villagers who have much more refined designs. I think the only "remarkable" thing about Raymond are his eye colors being different, and that's it.

People are treating Raymond like he's a godsend or something, and it's ridiculous!
 
PoptartPresident said:
I really don't understand what's so great about Raymond. He's not even a nice villager, he's smug. I don't think he's really all that nice in comparison to other villagers who have much more refined designs. I think the only "remarkable" thing about Raymond are his eye colors being different, and that's it.

People are treating Raymond like he's a godsend or something, and it's ridiculous!
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Then the fans come and their like, oMGgGGGg hOuW cUd U SAei dAt? hE'Z a oFiZ cAt hE'z GoD.
 
Unhappyhome said:
If you decide to sell him that's also fine, I could care less but honestly the people who like TRULY like raymond and aren't over-obsessive fangirls deserve him.
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Yes he's a pixel cat but Raymond is treated like he brought this on himself (like you said)

Honestly I love all the villagers in my town, they are friends to me and not just pixels, but this seems way too far fetched. If raymond really did have feelings he would've loved this attention when it was tame (which it never was) but now it's the murderous paparazzi kind of fame
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Exactly. I'm so confused. Raymond didn't scam them it's the people who did. People are free to hate him of course! It's just maybe not treat him as if he orchestrated this whole mess?

He really would be better off if he was like Cyd for sure. No hate. Just indifference LOL.
 
immyshine said:
I am Genuinely so upset and disgusted with how ppl are on bidding threads with him. Why do ppl get so out of character about him. Like it a makes no sense to me.
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Raymond was not on my mind, at all, with and shortly after “New Horizons” was released March 20, 2020.

I joined this site in November 2013. I started playing “New Leaf,” just after I bought it, in August 2013. The must-experience villager was Julian. He was joined by the likes of Ankha, Beau, Fang, Lolly, Marina, Marshal, Merengue, and Stitches. (I am not attempting to recall Top 10 or Top 15. The names stand out more immediately in my mind.)

For a while, Tia was really hot. So, too, was Bam. And Phoebe had her moment. (I name the last two because they were the rare Jock and Uchi to rise to the top ranks on the Bell Tree Forums villager-popularity lists.)

As I bought more and more retail copies of “New Leaf,” I found myself creating towns that were pleasant—some used the word lovely—for Dream Address visitors to explore. And the Welcome amiibo cards made the difference in my controlling which villagers to have.

Here, with “New Horizons,” I have decided I don’t want to repeat what I did in “New Leaf.” I don’t want a theme island. I don’t want take my cue, for the cast of my island’s villagers, by making sure my island has all of Raymond, Audie, Sherb, Judy—you know, the newbies—just because they are The Latest.

I want a mix.

My personal favorite (male and overall) is: Stitches.

My personal favorite female (and this is to make sure I name two which covers both genders) is: Molly.

I have them.

I have them with some villagers/islanders who were not at the top of my Wish List. I have the sensitive bird Lucha. And I did not want him, as he was forced on me at the campsite (as my No. 6), but I took him and have kept him anyway. To let him go would be to strike a 5-to-5 balance of males and females on my island. (He would get replaced by a female.) To let him go would also be me needing to let go of fellow Smug Marshal so that I can, in theory, free my island of Smugs and go on the Nook Miles Islands for the mission of finding and acquiring Raymond.

I am in no hurry.
 
Dormire said:
Exactly. I'm so confused. Raymond didn't scam them it's the people who did. People are free to hate him of course! It's just maybe not treat him as if he orchestrated this whole mess?

He really would be better off if he was like Cyd for sure. No hate. Just indifference LOL.
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What do you want to bet if no Raymond memes spawned than raymond would be basically Cyd
 
I don't find Raymond interesting but the social frenzy for Raymond definitely is! It's a case study of mimetic desire, where something becomes more and more coveted in proportion to how desirable to others something is perceived as being, sorta like FOMO but more subconscious. I have no doubt that plenty of people want Raymond because he is just "their type" but I also have no doubt that plenty more people simply want Raymond because other people do but they don't recognize that as a motivator.
 
Unhappyhome said:
What do you want to bet if no Raymond memes spawned than raymond would be basically Cyd
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Yeah...it's probably that maid dress meme that jumpstarted this dumpster fire.
I'm still gonna like Raymond regardless since he's such a ray of sunshine in my island.
 
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