Not necessarily. In today's society where some people like to "hook up" with other people for "one-night-stands", make the idea of sex without love less alien.
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Not necessarily. In today's society where some people like to "hook up" with other people for "one-night-stands", make the idea of sex without love less alien.
Being born into this world, living however long you get to live, and eventually dying is something that happens to everybody. It's not some kind of dark fate, it's not some punishment, it's literally just something that happens. So if someone happens to get to see what, 50, 60, 70 years, and eventually goes away, that's some reason not to enjoy the time you get? You're saying that in that time, I shouldn't go outside, see what I can, find someone who I like enough to spend my time with, and go take the best opportunities while I still can? All because I'll clock out sooner or later? Honestly that's kind of sounds backwards to me. That should be the reason to life to your fullest! Get outside, go do what you want with your life, and fall in love with that person you're so close to! There's nothing that makes it "pointless" other than you making it pointless.
This thread is so god damn edgy.
This thread is so god damn edgy.
Midoriya
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This is true, but isn't it also true that, in some situations or times, changing your mindset can be extremely difficult? It takes a lot of effort and most of it is mental I've heard to change how you feel about something. If you are stuck in a rut and don't know what to do in life, then it's hard to commit yourself to doing something to get where you want to be, and what steps it takes to get there, etc., etc.
EDIT: Talking about both life, love, and death here.
EDIT: Nothing is certain in life, so then ... what's the point in trying?
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Saaaakisuchan
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And yeah I was gonna say that, but I didn't want to be offensive.
That's because you're not use to it. Yes, it may take some time and EFFORT but it'll be worth it. Seeing from your response, that's your mindset and you haven't change it. Life can be uncertain, but that's life. Life will beat you down to the ground if you let it. Would you rather live a life that you at least enjoy or spending your time wasting on the what ifs or the what afters.
You're not entitled to anything, is the thing. This is one of life's harsh lessons. There are only a few certain things in life (mostly scientific law) but when it comes to your personal life, just because some goal of yours isn't certain doesn't mean it isn't possible - but you're going to have to try and pay attention to everyone/everything involved if you want higher chances of attaining that goal. If you find yourself moping around/hopeless/unmotivated, then the first step is practicing discipline in your daily life. Do, don't just think.
Midoriya
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I see... From hearing all of the responses the general consensus is that love as well as emotions are an important necessity in life, and you'll only ever get somewhere if you make it happen. It isn't certain, but it is well-rewarding if you make your goals happen. I am thankful for everyone's advice. I am normally a bright person, but I have had some losses recently and went through a series of unfortunate events. I haven't been out of my room in a couple days except for when I have to go to work. However, I am going to try and put myself out there more, as well as go towards the goals I originally planned to follow. I am going back to training in karate after having put it on hold for several months, and am going for a degree in Computer Science, instead of curving towards a Psychology degree. These are what my parents want and I want knowing I'll make way more money in the future with a degree in Computer Science. I am going to take life with one hand and make it my own with the other! I ultimately decide whether something's pointless or not. It's an opinion, not fact. I've got a determination of fire in my eyes and this time it's not going away! Thank you guys, I can see it now. Love isn't pointless... It's one of the necessary emotions that sets apart from other non-human creatures. We were given consciousness and souls and emotions are part of that. Without love in this world we would of destroyed each other centuries ago. I can see it now, love is something that ties people together. I see a future set before us, one where all walk towards it, hand in hand...
I am going to request a lock on this thread now seeing as it will only spew forth negativity. Thank you guys for your advice.
I am going to request a lock on this thread now seeing as it will only spew forth negativity. Thank you guys for your advice.
Kissyme100
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Omg, I can totally agree with the "being too nice thing". This guy has had the biggest crush on me for like 3 years and I had to turn him down recently. I tried to turn him down before but because I naturally tend to sugar coat anything related to bad news... He didn't get the message the first time.
Kind of a long story but I'm willing to share if anyone is interested.
erikaeliseh
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ah that sucks :/ im the same way, i tend to sugar coat things, so its hard to actually communicate bad news to a person.
I don't agree. Yes, we're all going to die, but that doesn't mean that u can't enjoy life while ur still here. Being too nice isn't the same thing as love. If ur nice to someone, it doesn't mean you love them. Personally, I think love is when you find a person you trust and care for enough to the point where you would give up ur life for them. Life is more fun when you have someone to share it with. I've never been in love before so my opinion might change, but for now that's what I think of it
Damien Collier
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There's this guy from fifth grade (yes, elementary school, it's been years since I was in that school district, let alone even middleschool) that still tells everyone who will listen that me and him will "get married and play pokemon by the fire."
Like, I guess I just didn't say "no" to him mean-ly enough when he asked me to like three dances in the seventh grade. Because he thinks I'm playing hard to get by moving 40 miles away and not making any effort to talk to him YEARS later, for what reason? Because I was nice to him? Nasty as hell.
Like, I guess I just didn't say "no" to him mean-ly enough when he asked me to like three dances in the seventh grade. Because he thinks I'm playing hard to get by moving 40 miles away and not making any effort to talk to him YEARS later, for what reason? Because I was nice to him? Nasty as hell.
Celestefey
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Well to me, I don't find love to be pointless.
And what I think a lot of people seem to forget is that LOVE cannot just be confined to one single category. Most people associate love with romantic love, but there are all different kinds of it. Platonic love and family love are examples.
Even if you don't love somebody romantically, that does not mean it's completely pointless. If things don't work out then chances are it probably was never meant to be, and it was probably not going to be that great anyway. You can still have friends who you love dearly. Friends are always important. It feels like it's just in human nature to want to have companions and relationships with other people. And friends are important! Perhaps more than family members or lovers.
I don't personally find it to be pointless. If you have dated someone but realised, hey, things didn't work out and I'm sad about that, it doesn't mean the whole thing was pointless. Sadly, most relationships don't last forever, for one reason or another. Usually the endings are bitter and can leave people feeling sour about it, but honestly I think it's down to how YOU choose to perceive it. If you end a relationship with someone, if you CHOOSE to think positively instead of pessimistically, you'll be able to look back on it fondly and remember the good memories you shared. You'll have learned new things and matured. If you look back on it negatively, well, chances are it would seem pointless. I think in some certain scenarios, perhaps when a relationship has ended due to dramatic circumstances, then it's fair enough to look back on them negatively. BUT even so, moving on from it will only make you a stronger person as you learn how to cope with intense emotions. It isn't pointless! Even when love is negative it isn't pointless.
And what I think a lot of people seem to forget is that LOVE cannot just be confined to one single category. Most people associate love with romantic love, but there are all different kinds of it. Platonic love and family love are examples.
Even if you don't love somebody romantically, that does not mean it's completely pointless. If things don't work out then chances are it probably was never meant to be, and it was probably not going to be that great anyway. You can still have friends who you love dearly. Friends are always important. It feels like it's just in human nature to want to have companions and relationships with other people. And friends are important! Perhaps more than family members or lovers.
I don't personally find it to be pointless. If you have dated someone but realised, hey, things didn't work out and I'm sad about that, it doesn't mean the whole thing was pointless. Sadly, most relationships don't last forever, for one reason or another. Usually the endings are bitter and can leave people feeling sour about it, but honestly I think it's down to how YOU choose to perceive it. If you end a relationship with someone, if you CHOOSE to think positively instead of pessimistically, you'll be able to look back on it fondly and remember the good memories you shared. You'll have learned new things and matured. If you look back on it negatively, well, chances are it would seem pointless. I think in some certain scenarios, perhaps when a relationship has ended due to dramatic circumstances, then it's fair enough to look back on them negatively. BUT even so, moving on from it will only make you a stronger person as you learn how to cope with intense emotions. It isn't pointless! Even when love is negative it isn't pointless.
There's more to life than just being born, growing up, and then dying. That is merely existing and there's more to life than just that - and the younger you are, the harder that can be to see.
What gets me through anything is to think about what will come at the end of the current stage. Things aren't going to remain the same way they are now forever - and if you really feel that way, and you don't like what you see, then you need to change the direction you're going in yourself. Parents and society will only guide you so far, you need to be active and take control. If you can't do that now (e.g. you're a minor and confined by parents and mandatory schooling) then it's the future you should be focusing on and how you can best start preparing for it in order to have the best chances possible in order to pursue the things you want - whether that be social goals, hobbies, further education/career, etc. If you don't know what you want that's not a bad thing either: you don't need to have it all figured out.
As for love, it depends on how you're defining it. If you're basing it purely off romantic love and what is portrayed in Hollywood movies and popular fiction books, then that's just an ideal that very few people's relationships actually emulate - and if something appears eternally unobtainable then of course it feels pointless to aim towards it.
There are four people in my life I would say I love. Two are family, one is a platonic friendship of 20 years, and the fourth is my boyfriend. I've other close friends of course, but they're the four people who I'd do absolutely anything I can for no matter what. They're the people whose opinions truly matter and I will fight hard to keep them in my life - and if they have a criticism about me then I will genuinely try to think it through. If I upset them I can't get it out of my head until it's set straight - it overtakes everything else and I work as hard as I can to try and improve the situation even if it involves setting aside my own pride and realising that yes I'm to blame. I'm admittedly pretty stubborn so that's a challenge in itself, but if it needs to be done then so be it. There is absolutely nothing worth losing the people I love over.
What gets me through anything is to think about what will come at the end of the current stage. Things aren't going to remain the same way they are now forever - and if you really feel that way, and you don't like what you see, then you need to change the direction you're going in yourself. Parents and society will only guide you so far, you need to be active and take control. If you can't do that now (e.g. you're a minor and confined by parents and mandatory schooling) then it's the future you should be focusing on and how you can best start preparing for it in order to have the best chances possible in order to pursue the things you want - whether that be social goals, hobbies, further education/career, etc. If you don't know what you want that's not a bad thing either: you don't need to have it all figured out.
As for love, it depends on how you're defining it. If you're basing it purely off romantic love and what is portrayed in Hollywood movies and popular fiction books, then that's just an ideal that very few people's relationships actually emulate - and if something appears eternally unobtainable then of course it feels pointless to aim towards it.
There are four people in my life I would say I love. Two are family, one is a platonic friendship of 20 years, and the fourth is my boyfriend. I've other close friends of course, but they're the four people who I'd do absolutely anything I can for no matter what. They're the people whose opinions truly matter and I will fight hard to keep them in my life - and if they have a criticism about me then I will genuinely try to think it through. If I upset them I can't get it out of my head until it's set straight - it overtakes everything else and I work as hard as I can to try and improve the situation even if it involves setting aside my own pride and realising that yes I'm to blame. I'm admittedly pretty stubborn so that's a challenge in itself, but if it needs to be done then so be it. There is absolutely nothing worth losing the people I love over.
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im not liking the concept you guys are having that love has to be romantic or sexual
ikr? Especially for people like me, it's really annoying
LMAO @ the people saying relationships have to be sexual in order to be in love
People can be asexual and are in love, it's romantic feelings of interest that goes into that play, which could lead up to sexual things because of romantic feelings. Stop saying romantic "and". It all leads out
Just becauE you experience a whole hand full of break ups and your mindset is being lonely forever then go for it
Not everyone is you or will ever be you. People don't know how to love, it's easy to say " I love you" like "How are you" now a days.
People can be asexual and are in love, it's romantic feelings of interest that goes into that play, which could lead up to sexual things because of romantic feelings. Stop saying romantic "and". It all leads out
Just becauE you experience a whole hand full of break ups and your mindset is being lonely forever then go for it
Not everyone is you or will ever be you. People don't know how to love, it's easy to say " I love you" like "How are you" now a days.
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