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Mino said:
Bacon Boy said:
Mino said:
Bacon Boy said:
To the matter at hand, I really don't agree with homosexuality, but I'm not going to go out there and brutally murder or beat up the homosexuals out there. And since I know you'll contradict me if I say it's because of my faith, I'll also say because I just can't feel or see the attraction. It makes no sense to me. But I will however, tolerate it.
I fail to see how this constitutes "not agreeing" with homosexuality. As a straight person, I am not sexually attracted to other men, even though I often joke about wanting to get it on with Andy. I wouldn't expect a heterosexual to understand the attraction homosexuals have to people of the same gender or vice versa. Faith is not relevant to this. To me it seems that you either don't understand same-sex attraction, and therefore do not believe it exists, or you "disagree" with it out of some ancient religious edict that has survived to this day. Which is it, or is it really worth saying that you don't "agree" with homosexuality?
I was trying to make sense, but I guess I didn't come across right. It's not that I don't believe it exists, I just don't believe in its basic principle - same-sex relations. So no, I don't agree with it.
You'll have to explain yourself better. What do you mean you don't "believe" in that principle. And I'm sure you don't mean you don't believe in same-sex relations, you have relationships with plenty of males, I'm sure.
I mean in a romantic way. What I mean that I don't believe it is that I don't understand how it works or how someone can have that kind of relationship. I guess I couldn't put it the right way... It just doesn't seem logical in my mind.
 
Bacon Boy said:
And since I know you'll contradict me if I say it's because of my faith, I'll also say because I just can't feel or see the attraction. It makes no sense to me.
I feel the same about heterosexuality, yet no one has any problems with that, do they? Being gay, I don't have any attraction to girls whatsoever, obviously. Sometimes I wonder, if being gay was a choice (which it's not), why any guy would choose to like girls over guys, because I just don't see the attraction myself. But I know better than that, because I know that it's not a choice, and that people are just attracted to whatever gender they're attracted to, and nothing can change that. So even though I don't have any attraction towards girls, I don't question how people can be straight, because it's not a decision, it's just how you're born, and straight people should feel the same about gay people.
 
Tyeforce said:
Bacon Boy said:
And since I know you'll contradict me if I say it's because of my faith, I'll also say because I just can't feel or see the attraction. It makes no sense to me.
I feel the same about heterosexuality, yet no one has any problems with that, do they? Being gay, I don't have any attraction to girls whatsoever, obviously. Sometimes I wonder, if being gay was a choice (which it's not), why any guy would choose to like girls over guys, because I just don't see the attraction myself. But I know better than that, because I know that it's not a choice, and that people are just attracted to whatever gender they're attracted to, and nothing can change that. So even though I don't have any attraction towards girls, I don't question how people can be straight, because it's not a decision, it's just how you're born, and straight people should feel the same about gay people.
You gimme any gay or straight person and 20 minutes in a room with a hammer and I bet I could.
 
iFly said:
Sexualality isn't just strict to religion.

In all honesty, I don't not like it, I mean just public displays of affection isn't bad; but I'm alittle annoyed by really gay people.

Like that gay that isn't gay, but just overly gay.

I can't explain it.
I feel the same way about straight people sometimes. Things aren't just straight, they're overly straight. Straight couples always kissing in public, flaunting their straightness... Gay couples can't even get away with holding hands in many places.
 
Tyeforce said:
iFly said:
Sexualality isn't just strict to religion.

In all honesty, I don't not like it, I mean just public displays of affection isn't bad; but I'm alittle annoyed by really gay people.

Like that gay that isn't gay, but just overly gay.

I can't explain it.
I feel the same way about straight people sometimes. Things aren't just straight, they're overly straight. Straight couples always kissing in public, flaunting their straightness... Gay couples can't even get away with holding hands in many places.
How the heck are straight couples "flaunting their straightness"?

I see where you are going with the gays can't hold hands, but I don't see it in any way as flaunting.
 
Nevermore said:
Tyeforce said:
iFly said:
Sexualality isn't just strict to religion.

In all honesty, I don't not like it, I mean just public displays of affection isn't bad; but I'm alittle annoyed by really gay people.

Like that gay that isn't gay, but just overly gay.

I can't explain it.
I feel the same way about straight people sometimes. Things aren't just straight, they're overly straight. Straight couples always kissing in public, flaunting their straightness... Gay couples can't even get away with holding hands in many places.
How the heck are straight couples "flaunting their straightness"?

I see where you are going with the gays can't hold hands, but I don't see it in any way as flaunting.
It's just a perception he has, he just wishes he could do the same thing with his loved one, which he should be able to and not have to hide it.
 
Nevermore said:
Tyeforce said:
iFly said:
Sexualality isn't just strict to religion.

In all honesty, I don't not like it, I mean just public displays of affection isn't bad; but I'm alittle annoyed by really gay people.

Like that gay that isn't gay, but just overly gay.

I can't explain it.
I feel the same way about straight people sometimes. Things aren't just straight, they're overly straight. Straight couples always kissing in public, flaunting their straightness... Gay couples can't even get away with holding hands in many places.
How the heck are straight couples "flaunting their straightness"?

I see where you are going with the gays can't hold hands, but I don't see it in any way as flaunting.
What I'm saying is that you see gay couples how I see straight couples, except far less. You don't like it when you see gay couples displaying affection in public, right? Well, that happens a whole lot less than it does with straight couples. And it happens so much that I just get sick of it. But my reasons are different than yours. I don't dislike straight couples, nor do I think that they shouldn't be able to show affection, but whenever I see a straight couple holding hands or kissing, it makes me so miserable knowing that I can't do the same with my boyfriend.
 
Tyeforce said:
Nevermore said:
Tyeforce said:
iFly said:
Sexualality isn't just strict to religion.

In all honesty, I don't not like it, I mean just public displays of affection isn't bad; but I'm alittle annoyed by really gay people.

Like that gay that isn't gay, but just overly gay.

I can't explain it.
I feel the same way about straight people sometimes. Things aren't just straight, they're overly straight. Straight couples always kissing in public, flaunting their straightness... Gay couples can't even get away with holding hands in many places.
How the heck are straight couples "flaunting their straightness"?

I see where you are going with the gays can't hold hands, but I don't see it in any way as flaunting.
What I'm saying is that you see gay couples how I see straight couples, except far less. You don't like it when you see gay couples displaying affection in public, right? Well, that happens a whole lot less than it does with straight couples. And it happens so much that I just get sick of it. But my reasons are different than yours. I don't dislike straight couples, nor do I think that they shouldn't be able to show affection, but whenever I see a straight couple holding hands or kissing, it makes me so miserable knowing that I can't do the same with my boyfriend.
I don't like either doing anything in public.

Seriously, get a room. xD

But I mean for kissing, I mean, if it is a small kiss, and not them licking each other's face, I am fine, gay or straight.
 
Nevermore said:
Tyeforce said:
Nevermore said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepoverly straight. Straight couples always kissing in public, flaunting their straightness... Gay couples can't even get away with holding hands in many places.
How the heck are straight couples "flaunting their straightness"?

I see where you are going with the gays can't hold hands, but I don't see it in any way as flaunting.
What I'm saying is that you see gay couples how I see straight couples, except far less. You don't like it when you see gay couples displaying affection in public, right? Well, that happens a whole lot less than it does with straight couples. And it happens so much that I just get sick of it. But my reasons are different than yours. I don't dislike straight couples, nor do I think that they shouldn't be able to show affection, but whenever I see a straight couple holding hands or kissing, it makes me so miserable knowing that I can't do the same with my boyfriend.
I don't like either doing anything in public.

Seriously, get a room. xD
I'm not talking about making out in the middle of a public place or anything. I'm talking about little things, like holding hands, or giving a quick hug or kiss. Straight couples do things like that in public all the time and take it for granted, not realizing that gay couples who want to do the very same can't, or they could be putting their lives at risk. Society sucks.
 
Tyeforce said:
Nevermore said:
Tyeforce said:
Nevermore said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepoverly
What I'm saying is that you see gay couples how I see straight couples, except far less. You don't like it when you see gay couples displaying affection in public, right? Well, that happens a whole lot less than it does with straight couples. And it happens so much that I just get sick of it. But my reasons are different than yours. I don't dislike straight couples, nor do I think that they shouldn't be able to show affection, but whenever I see a straight couple holding hands or kissing, it makes me so miserable knowing that I can't do the same with my boyfriend.
I don't like either doing anything in public.

Seriously, get a room. xD
I'm not talking about making out in the middle of a public place or anything. I'm talking about little things, like holding hands, or giving a quick hug or kiss. Straight couples do things like that in public all the time and take it for granted, not realizing that gay couples who want to do the very same can't, or they could be putting their lives at risk. Society sucks.
Wow, I edited my post and not knowingly completely agreed with you.
 
Bacon Boy said:
Mino said:
Bacon Boy said:
Mino said:
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I was trying to make sense, but I guess I didn't come across right. It's not that I don't believe it exists, I just don't believe in its basic principle - same-sex relations. So no, I don't agree with it.
You'll have to explain yourself better. What do you mean you don't "believe" in that principle. And I'm sure you don't mean you don't believe in same-sex relations, you have relationships with plenty of males, I'm sure.
I mean in a romantic way. What I mean that I don't believe it is that I don't understand how it works or how someone can have that kind of relationship. I guess I couldn't put it the right way... It just doesn't seem logical in my mind.
If you know how it works, then why isn't it logical to you? I love my boyfriend. I'm attracted to him, and I truly love him, just as you would love a girl. It's the exact same love, except different genders.
 
Tyeforce said:
iFly said:
Sexualality isn't just strict to religion.

In all honesty, I don't not like it, I mean just public displays of affection isn't bad; but I'm alittle annoyed by really gay people.

Like that gay that isn't gay, but just overly gay.

I can't explain it.
I feel the same way about straight people sometimes. Things aren't just straight, they're overly straight. Straight couples always kissing in public, flaunting their straightness... Gay couples can't even get away with holding hands in many places.
I've never thought about that. I'm pretty sure overly straight people piss me off, too.
 
Tyeforce said:
Bacon Boy said:
Mino said:
Bacon Boy said:
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You'll have to explain yourself better. What do you mean you don't "believe" in that principle. And I'm sure you don't mean you don't believe in same-sex relations, you have relationships with plenty of males, I'm sure.
I mean in a romantic way. What I mean that I don't believe it is that I don't understand how it works or how someone can have that kind of relationship. I guess I couldn't put it the right way... It just doesn't seem logical in my mind.
If you know how it works, then why isn't it logical to you? I love my boyfriend. I'm attracted to him, and I truly love him, just as you would love a girl. It's the exact same love, except different genders.
I just don't understand how you feel that kind of an attraction for a man as I do for a woman. You said you don't see how you can be attracted to girls, so we're kind of in the same spot here.
 
Bacon Boy said:
Tyeforce said:
Bacon Boy said:
Mino said:
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I mean in a romantic way. What I mean that I don't believe it is that I don't understand how it works or how someone can have that kind of relationship. I guess I couldn't put it the right way... It just doesn't seem logical in my mind.
If you know how it works, then why isn't it logical to you? I love my boyfriend. I'm attracted to him, and I truly love him, just as you would love a girl. It's the exact same love, except different genders.
I just don't understand how you feel that kind of an attraction for a man as I do for a woman. You said you don't see how you can be attracted to girls, so we're kind of in the same spot here.
I said that I could never see myself being attracted to a girl, but I didn't say that I couldn't understand how other guys can be attracted to girls. I understand it very well; some people are born liking girls, while other guys are born liking other guys. I don't have to feel the same attraction to understand why people have that attraction.
 
Tyeforce said:
Bacon Boy said:
Tyeforce said:
Bacon Boy said:
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If you know how it works, then why isn't it logical to you? I love my boyfriend. I'm attracted to him, and I truly love him, just as you would love a girl. It's the exact same love, except different genders.
I just don't understand how you feel that kind of an attraction for a man as I do for a woman. You said you don't see how you can be attracted to girls, so we're kind of in the same spot here.
I said that I could never see myself being attracted to a girl, but I didn't say that I couldn't understand how other guys can be attracted to girls. I understand it very well; some people are born liking girls, while other guys are born liking other guys. I don't have to feel the same attraction to understand why people have that attraction.
Well still, for me, I don't understand (I understand that one can feel that way about a man) that kind of mindset. I don't know. It's hard to explain.
 
Bacon Boy said:
Tyeforce said:
Bacon Boy said:
Tyeforce said:
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I just don't understand how you feel that kind of an attraction for a man as I do for a woman. You said you don't see how you can be attracted to girls, so we're kind of in the same spot here.
I said that I could never see myself being attracted to a girl, but I didn't say that I couldn't understand how other guys can be attracted to girls. I understand it very well; some people are born liking girls, while other guys are born liking other guys. I don't have to feel the same attraction to understand why people have that attraction.
Well still, for me, I don't understand (I understand that one can feel that way about a man) that kind of mindset. I don't know. It's hard to explain.
What is there to not understand, though? You like girls, I like guys. It's the same feeling, just directed towards different genders.
 
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