Lets see where this goes.

[Mino]

Hey, guess what?

There is no God, your parents have lied to you your entire life. You've spent your life eating up everything you were spoon fed by those older than you. You've entered a perpetuating cycle of ignorance, hate, and smug superiority that will preclude your attempts at finding friends or women of any worthwhile caliber. I can only hope that someday you'll experience the soul-crushing realization that you've spent your hypocritical life with some particularly ugly delusions. Perhaps such an event will have to wait until your inevitable death, when the bleak, yawning infinity will swallow you and your mind, and the sudden, unexpected loneliness will be the last thing you experience before oblivion.

Was David being ignorant? Yes he was. But replying with this? This is really wherre I thought you crossed the line. You then went on to say you weren't stating it as a fact even, despite that the second sentence was exactly that. I'm just saying just cause you think one way does not give you the right to look down on those with other views. That is being an a-hole in my book, if anything because you have no idea what they have experienced.

And, as I just said, I only did that to give him a taste of his own medicine. It's not like he's actually interested in any sort of rational discussion.

You're using this as a reason to proscribe everything that followed, despite the fact that my original post was completely isolated and unrelated to the rest of the comments I made in the rest of the thread. Have you actually read the entire thread?

 

[Sporge27]

Took a while, but I did read it all before. Point is you directed it at one person you thought deserved it which only polarizes things for him more. Not only that but it probably offended many you didn't intend to offend.

I've admitted being wrong at places, but I am not wrong that religious discussion should be held with respect and not used to insult others or hurt others. Whether or not one person deserved it or not you fail to see that it affects an entire group of people not just him.

 

[Mino]

Took a while, but I did read it all before. Point is you directed it at one person you thought deserved it which only polarizes things for him more. Not only that but it probably offended many you didn't intend to offend.

I've admitted being wrong at places, but I am not wrong that religious discussion should be held with respect and not used to insult others or hurt others. Whether or not one person deserved it or not you fail to see that it affects an entire group of people not just him.

I'm sure his post offended far more than mine did, and mine was targeted at him, not the relatively large LGBT population on TBT. Don't pretend like I didn't know other people would read it.

And that's all well and good, but earlier you were saying that the argument is not one that can even be made, not that it hurts others and therefore can't be discussed. Excepting the first posting, which was, again, entirely unrelated to my following comments, they were all made with respect and were well-reasoned. There's a profound disconnect between what you're saying has happened and what actually did.

 

[Yokie]

It was pretty depressing until I saw "I am not here anymore".

 

[Tyeforce]

It was pretty depressing until I saw "I am not here anymore".

Why until then? If anything, that would be even more depressing...

 

[Yokie]

It was pretty depressing until I saw "I am not here anymore".

Why until then? If anything, that would be even more depressing...

I didn't see it as someone has died...

 

[EpicGamer12]

Took a while, but I did read it all before. Point is you directed it at one person you thought deserved it which only polarizes things for him more. Not only that but it probably offended many you didn't intend to offend.

I've admitted being wrong at places, but I am not wrong that religious discussion should be held with respect and not used to insult others or hurt others. Whether or not one person deserved it or not you fail to see that it affects an entire group of people not just him.

I'm sure his post offended far more than mine did, and mine was targeted at him, not the relatively large LGBT population on TBT. Don't pretend like I didn't know other people would read it.

And that's all well and good, but earlier you were saying that the argument is not one that can even be made, not that it hurts others and therefore can't be discussed. Excepting the first posting, which was, again, entirely unrelated to my following comments, they were all made with respect and were well-reasoned. There's a profound disconnect between what you're saying has happened and what actually did.

You really get me angry. You really shouldn't go right out and say it like that. You could've left that to a PM, where you wouldn't be offending anyone.

 

[Tyeforce]

It was pretty depressing until I saw "I am not here anymore".

Why until then? If anything, that would be even more depressing...

I didn't see it as someone has died...

Then what did you see it as?

 

[Yokie]

It was pretty depressing until I saw "I am not here anymore".

Why until then? If anything, that would be even more depressing...

I didn't see it as someone has died...

Then what did you see it as?

Someone who left because he/she needed to go to the bathroom or something.

 

[Tyeforce]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepuntil then? If anything, that would be even more depressing...

I didn't see it as someone has died...

Then what did you see it as?

Someone who left because he/she needed to go to the bathroom or something.

>___>

 

[Yokie]

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Then what did you see it as?

Someone who left because he/she needed to go to the bathroom or something.

>___>

<___<

 

[Mino]

Took a while, but I did read it all before. Point is you directed it at one person you thought deserved it which only polarizes things for him more. Not only that but it probably offended many you didn't intend to offend.

I've admitted being wrong at places, but I am not wrong that religious discussion should be held with respect and not used to insult others or hurt others. Whether or not one person deserved it or not you fail to see that it affects an entire group of people not just him.

I'm sure his post offended far more than mine did, and mine was targeted at him, not the relatively large LGBT population on TBT. Don't pretend like I didn't know other people would read it.

And that's all well and good, but earlier you were saying that the argument is not one that can even be made, not that it hurts others and therefore can't be discussed. Excepting the first posting, which was, again, entirely unrelated to my following comments, they were all made with respect and were well-reasoned. There's a profound disconnect between what you're saying has happened and what actually did.

You really get me angry. You really shouldn't go right out and say it like that. You could've left that to a PM, where you wouldn't be offending anyone.

So you're offended by me telling someone what I believe? Did it occur to you that I may be offended every time a Christian professes belief in God? No, it didn't, in fact you didn't even take it into consideration. Is that the only criteria for whether or not something can be said? It might make someone angry or offended? And why is it that only the religious have the right to be offended by the expression of belief or non-belief?

Luckily for you, apparently, I'm not the type to be offended by simply things like that.

 

[Tyeforce]

Took a while, but I did read it all before. Point is you directed it at one person you thought deserved it which only polarizes things for him more. Not only that but it probably offended many you didn't intend to offend.

I've admitted being wrong at places, but I am not wrong that religious discussion should be held with respect and not used to insult others or hurt others. Whether or not one person deserved it or not you fail to see that it affects an entire group of people not just him.

I'm sure his post offended far more than mine did, and mine was targeted at him, not the relatively large LGBT population on TBT. Don't pretend like I didn't know other people would read it.

And that's all well and good, but earlier you were saying that the argument is not one that can even be made, not that it hurts others and therefore can't be discussed. Excepting the first posting, which was, again, entirely unrelated to my following comments, they were all made with respect and were well-reasoned. There's a profound disconnect between what you're saying has happened and what actually did.

You really get me angry. You really shouldn't go right out and say it like that. You could've left that to a PM, where you wouldn't be offending anyone.

So you're offended by me telling someone what I believe? Did it occur to you that I may be offended every time a Christian professes belief in God? No, it didn't, in fact you didn't even take it into consideration. Is that the only criteria for whether or not something can be said? It might make someone angry or offended? And why is it that only the religious have the right to be offended by the expression of belief or non-belief?

Luckily for you, apparently, I'm not the type to be offended by simply things like that.

Not trying to start an argument with you, but there is a difference between saying "I believe/don't believe in God" and "There is/is no God". I don't believe MrMr ever claimed that there is a God as a fact, unlike you, who flat out said "There is no God" without question of a doubt in one of your posts. So don't call someone a hypocrite when you've been one yourself.

 

[Rawburt]

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You really get me angry. You really shouldn't go right out and say it like that. You could've left that to a PM, where you wouldn't be offending anyone.

So you're offended by me telling someone what I believe? Did it occur to you that I may be offended every time a Christian professes belief in God? No, it didn't, in fact you didn't even take it into consideration. Is that the only criteria for whether or not something can be said? It might make someone angry or offended? And why is it that only the religious have the right to be offended by the expression of belief or non-belief?

Luckily for you, apparently, I'm not the type to be offended by simply things like that.

Not trying to start an argument with you, but there is a difference between saying "I believe/don't believe in God" and "There is/is no God". I don't believe MrMr ever claimed that there is a God as a fact, unlike you, who flat out said "There is no God" without question of a doubt in one of your posts. So don't call someone a hypocrite when you've been one yourself.

No, there is no difference in those two statements at all, they're both opinions.

It can't be proven either way, so they're the same. He's just expressing his beliefs.

 

[Tyeforce]

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So you're offended by me telling someone what I believe? Did it occur to you that I may be offended every time a Christian professes belief in God? No, it didn't, in fact you didn't even take it into consideration. Is that the only criteria for whether or not something can be said? It might make someone angry or offended? And why is it that only the religious have the right to be offended by the expression of belief or non-belief?

Luckily for you, apparently, I'm not the type to be offended by simply things like that.

Not trying to start an argument with you, but there is a difference between saying "I believe/don't believe in God" and "There is/is no God". I don't believe MrMr ever claimed that there is a God as a fact, unlike you, who flat out said "There is no God" without question of a doubt in one of your posts. So don't call someone a hypocrite when you've been one yourself.

No, there is no difference in those two statements at all, they're both opinions.

It can't be proven either way, so they're the same. He's just expressing his beliefs.

No, there is a difference. One is expressing an opinion, while the other is claiming a fact.

 

[Rawburt]

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Not trying to start an argument with you, but there is a difference between saying "I believe/don't believe in God" and "There is/is no God". I don't believe MrMr ever claimed that there is a God as a fact, unlike you, who flat out said "There is no God" without question of a doubt in one of your posts. So don't call someone a hypocrite when you've been one yourself.

No, there is no difference in those two statements at all, they're both opinions.

It can't be proven either way, so they're the same. He's just expressing his beliefs.

No, there is a difference. One is expressing an opinion, while the other is claiming a fact.

Which both are opinions, opinions are one's perception of fact, and since religion can't be proven, both statements mean the same.

 

[Tyeforce]

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No, there is no difference in those two statements at all, they're both opinions.

It can't be proven either way, so they're the same. He's just expressing his beliefs.

No, there is a difference. One is expressing an opinion, while the other is claiming a fact.

Which both are opinions, opinions are one's perception of fact, and since religion can't be proven, both statements mean the same.

No...no. Saying "There is/isn't a God" isn't expressing an opinion, it's claiming something that can't be proven as a fact. You're not saying "I think there is/isn't a God" or "I believe there is/isn't a God", you're flat out saying that a God does or doesn't exist, claiming it as a fact.

 

[EpicGamer12]

Anyway, Conor is here, and will probably lock it.

 

[Rawburt]

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No, there is a difference. One is expressing an opinion, while the other is claiming a fact.

Which both are opinions, opinions are one's perception of fact, and since religion can't be proven, both statements mean the same.

No...no. Saying "There is/isn't a God" isn't expressing an opinion, it's claiming something that can't be proven as a fact. You're not saying "I think there is/isn't a God" or "I believe there is/isn't a God", you're flat out saying that a God does or doesn't exist, claiming it as a fact.

Still the same thing.

And what does it matter for? Someone expressing beliefs isn't something to cause anger.

 

[Tyeforce]

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Which both are opinions, opinions are one's perception of fact, and since religion can't be proven, both statements mean the same.

No...no. Saying "There is/isn't a God" isn't expressing an opinion, it's claiming something that can't be proven as a fact. You're not saying "I think there is/isn't a God" or "I believe there is/isn't a God", you're flat out saying that a God does or doesn't exist, claiming it as a fact.

Still the same thing.

And what does it matter for? Someone expressing beliefs isn't something to cause anger.

It's not the same... >_> No, expressing beliefs isn't something that should anger or offend you. But claiming those beliefs as fact is different.