Jack Tretton Insults the Nintendo 3DS

[Psychonaut]

i'll give nintendo that, that its trying to be a pioneer, but i think the way that they go about it is usually wrong.

i mean.. 3d gaming is cool, and no glasses is a great way to sell it, but how is it really going to affect gaming one way or another?..

i can kinda understand it on the ps3.. you have a huge 3d tv, and are able to enjoy 1080p games in 3d. that's pretty amazing in and of itself. it does the same thing for gaming though, which is about jack squat. but, hopefully nintendo's third party lineup pulls off a miracle and makes 3d awesome.

 

[rafren]

The Power Glove was too ahead of it's time. :/ But I do agree with BB. It does look bad ass.

 

[Slifer Slacker]

i really want the 3ds, that dude is just like "yeah im from sony, and like, im cool, and like f^?% all other companies" ya knw?

 

[Tyeforce]

i'll give nintendo that, that its trying to be a pioneer, but i think the way that they go about it is usually wrong.

i mean.. 3d gaming is cool, and no glasses is a great way to sell it, but how is it really going to affect gaming one way or another?..

i can kinda understand it on the ps3.. you have a huge 3d tv, and are able to enjoy 1080p games in 3d. that's pretty amazing in and of itself. it does the same thing for gaming though, which is about jack squat. but, hopefully nintendo's third party lineup pulls off a miracle and makes 3d awesome.

You'd be surprised how much of a difference 3D makes in video games. The added depth is...well, a whole new dimension. It's like the leap from 2D to 3D. Now we've made the jump from 3D to really 3D, lol. But in all seriousness, it really does make a huge impact on gaming. Go play Pilotwings Resort in 3D, and then turn the 3D off. You'll find it's a lot harder without 3D, because you lose that sense of depth.

Obviously, the added depth isn't going to be a game changer for every game, as there will be many games like nintendogs + cats and Super Street Fighter 4: 3D Edition where the 3D does nothing more than enhance the visuals, but that's certainly not a bad thing. 3D is very much like HD. Sure, HD resolution is great, but it doesn't really do a whole lot, if anything at all, to gameplay. It means that your games will look nicer, yes, but that's about it. And in some cases, that's all that the 3D will provide; better visuals. But the sense of depth you get from 3D also has the potential to enhance gameplay drastically, going beyond better visuals.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Here's a good article regarding this quote.

http://www.zeldainformer.com/2011/0...t-at-nintendo-millions-begin-to-facepalm.html

Ehh, the only problem I have with that article is that Jack isn't well liked and doesn't really represent Sony as a whole. :L But it brought up valid points.

I love the PS3, but Sony just keeps getting worse and worse.

What do you mean?

 

[Psychonaut]

You'd be surprised how much of a difference 3D makes in video games. The added depth is...well, a whole new dimension. It's like the leap from 2D to 3D. Now we've made the jump from 3D to really 3D, lol. But in all seriousness, it really does make a huge impact on gaming. Go play Pilotwings Resort in 3D, and then turn the 3D off. You'll find it's a lot harder without 3D, because you lose that sense of depth.

Obviously, the added depth isn't going to be a game changer for every game, as there will be many games like nintendogs + cats and Super Street Fighter 4: 3D Edition where the 3D does nothing more than enhance the visuals, but that's certainly not a bad thing. 3D is very much like HD. Sure, HD resolution is great, but it doesn't really do a whole lot, if anything at all, to gameplay. It means that your games will look nicer, yes, but that's about it. And in some cases, that's all that the 3D will provide; better visuals. But the sense of depth you get from 3D also has the potential to enhance gameplay drastically, going beyond better visuals.

so 3d with polygons on a 2d screen doesn't have depth perception enough?
i find that hard to believe.
/have yet to played pilot wings resort, but have played star fox 64 way too much and never had a problem telling how far away something is

 

[Tyeforce]

so 3d with polygons on a 2d screen doesn't have depth perception enough?
i find that hard to believe.
/have yet to played pilot wings resort, but have played star fox 64 way too much and never had a problem telling how far away something is

It's not that polygonal 3D doesn't have enough depth. It's that true 3D has much more depth, on a completely different level. If you play a 3DS game like Pilotwings Resort with the 3D on and then turn the 3D off after playing with 3D, you'll see exactly what I mean. After playing in 3D, 2D just feels so...flat. With 3D, it's much, much easier to judge depth, because you can actually see it. With polygonal 3D, you can kinda see depth, but because everything's flat it's more like you're guessing where the depth is, not actually seeing it. It's just something you have to experience for yourself to fully understand.

 

[Psychonaut]

It's not that polygonal 3D doesn't have enough depth. It's that true 3D has much more depth, on a completely different level. If you play a 3DS game like Pilotwings Resort with the 3D on and then turn the 3D off after playing with 3D, you'll see exactly what I mean. After playing in 3D, 2D just feels so...flat. With 3D, it's much, much easier to judge depth, because you can actually see it. With polygonal 3D, you can kinda see depth, but because everything's flat it's more like you're guessing where the depth is, not actually seeing it. It's just something you have to experience for yourself to fully understand.

i still feel like "2d" 3d is more than enough to play pretty much every game made, right now.

see the other thread for 3d game ideas, mainly (if not only) professor layton/phoenix wright style games to truly let the 3ds shine.

 

[Megamannt125]

Ehh, the only problem I have with that article is that Jack isn't well liked and doesn't really represent Sony as a whole. :L But it brought up valid points.


What do you mean?

Sony's been an ass lately. Especially with their fight against hackers.

 

[Tyeforce]

i still feel like "2d" 3d is more than enough to play pretty much every game made, right now.

see the other thread for 3d game ideas, mainly (if not only) professor layton/phoenix wright style games to truly let the 3ds shine.

I still say you need to try it out for yourself before you say that 3D doesn't affect gameplay. If you give it an honest chance and play a game or two like Pilotwings Resort and you still believe that 3D is just a gimmick, then I'll take your opinion seriously. But the fact of the matter is that with 3D, you need to experience it first hand to really get a feel for it. I think you'd be surprised if you gave it a chance. My roommate thought the same way you did, even after playing with a 3DS demo unit at Best Buy for a bit. She came home after playing it and said she would never buy it. But when my boyfriend and I bought our 3DSes, she got a better first hand experience with it, and a few days later she went out and bought it herself, completely changing her stance on it.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Sony's been an ass lately. Especially with their fight against hackers.

If Geohot wasn't such a dumbass there wouldn't have been a fight to begin with.