Mafia Improbable Role Mafia 2 - Endgame

[Biancasbotique]

Okay Chele can you explain something now. Nothing happened to me...

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and btw Dad I know Chele's and Chick's role so let them explain first especially Chele

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Farobi was willing to sacrifice himself to clear someone and we can deduce the hostiles but his role boommeranged on him.

So this person is still not clear.

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the full role claims are as follows:

Chele claims to be Kingmaker . She can king anyone during day and kill the same person at night. So I ask her to king me now, and nothing happened. I should be King. please explain Chele

Chick claims to be Princess. She has no actions (?) but if she dies, day phase is eliminated and scum gets two night phases

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btw sorry Farobi....

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Actually it does clear Dad, I read Farobi's role again...or am I being swayed easliy? It says his read will just boomerang to him , not kill him ...

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Well I guess my plan worked. and we are still alive. and this cleared Dad in the process?

Dad, do you have proof that you were visited? did you get a pm at all . Please be honest

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My thoughts:

really ? Princess , King? who's Queen, Byngo?

 

[Biancasbotique]

Chele, the fact that I wasn't king is counting against you.

Byngo, I think your claim for reviving is true because I did get revived

Chick, your role is really confusing ...two night phases if you die?

Dad, the fact that Farobi died being boomeranged screams to me that he died visiting you.


so who to believe?

Right now I am willing to clear Dad and Byngo, that leaves Chele and Chick.

Please let me know if there are any loopholes .

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Question is Heyden killed during day?

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And there's another thing that bothers me: Is Byngo a mafia-aligned reviver or town aligned reviver? Its screaming town because he revived me a townie, but what would mafia aligned reviver can benefit from reviiving me?

 

[Byngo]

but what would mafia aligned reviver can benefit from reviiving me?

towncred

 

[Geoni]

If you're dead, your vote isn't counted.

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Hey, don't act like I didn't warn you in the first post :shrug:

Fair. Going to try to win to spite you.

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Anyways somebody is day killer because Heyden remains unaccounted for.

Chele's Kingmaker claim goes against what she PM'd to Farobi earlier on in the game about being a neutral third party, also having the ability to kill. My guess is making somebody king actually kills them so if she could confirm that she also did this to Heyden that would help.

Chick's roleclaim sounds like one big 'lynching me will be terrible' threat that I can see someone using as a means to avoid getting lynched.

I'd still like to go forth with my plan, which would be Chele making Chick king to see if that kills her, and if she dies then the whole double night phase threat doesn't matter since town will die by end of day if we fail. If Chele doesn't end the game in doing this then we lynch her.

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Bleh if Chele has already tried to king Bianca then this plan won't work unless she can change the action in time. But it also doesn't kill them during day according to her so honestly, what's up? How did ITYW die during the day because of her?

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ladsfjlsdfjkla plan won't work I think, somebody has to be lying about not being able to kill during the day

 

[Biancasbotique]

Chele's explanation is she tried to King Waffles and Waffles is fragile, thus the death.

Heyden's death is the questionable one

 

[Geoni]

To be honest, I don’t even care if you’re Mafia or Town at this point. Either way, there’s no point hiding my role from you.
I’m actually a tp. But I’m not dangerous to either parties, I have my own wincon to deal with and tbh I’ll just side with any party if I win. I’m not going into specific detail on what I am and what my wincon is and what powers I have, but I could tell you that I am the one responsible for Waffles’ death (I think that anyway, I was never informed about the death until I read the thread). Before you start flipping out and probably revealing to the whole thread that I’m the culprit for Waffles’ death, I have to tell you that I did NOT use a killing ability on Waffles. I did not try to kill her. I tried to do the opposite, actually. Now I think that I won’t win as my wincon is partially impossible to get right now unless we kill a Mafia.
... so there you go. That’s my alignment and everything explained. The reason I just told you is that 1) you would know the reason to Waffles’ death and 2) it doesn’t even matter if you’re town or mafia. If I’m a tp then why would you even bother killing me?

Chele you need to explain every bit of this PM you sent to Farobi early on in the game.

 

[Biancasbotique]

Chele is explicit that her action is duirng the day so that Kingship will affect me

 

[Geoni]

Dad, do you have proof that you were visited? did you get a pm at all . Please be honest

No btw.

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OHH right, the fragility is what killed ITYW on the spot. Yep, Heyden's death was the mystery.

 

[Biancasbotique]

I love how Byngo and Dad are answering honestly lol

 

[Geoni]

Yeah I think I'm banking on it being Chick the more I read into the situation.

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Chele did you try to king Heyden day 2? Please answer this.

 

[Biancasbotique]

Could this be the scenario?

1 Mafia= explains why they havent won by now because if there's two and byngo is stump, they would have won by now
2 Hostiles= again they haven't met their win con yet
2 Townies= Me being one, and one other , and we havent eliminated the three hostiles, which means we will die anyways

or is there no mafia at all?

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and yes byngo you have been coasting with towncred....so the question is what color are you really?

Or Dad is really mafia and killed farobi night , knowing that I have plan to investigate him and find out if Farobi will die and use it to his advantage.

and I agree with Chick, his role seems to suggest "dont lynch me or you all will lose with two night phases" which is scummish if you think about it.

And Chele needs a lot of explaining to do

 

[Geoni]

Hostiles and mafia are the same thing Bianca. Both mafia and killing third party are hostile to town with a few weird killing tp exceptions.

 

[Biancasbotique]

And tbh this game is hard because roles are not straightfoward, a doctor who basically kills themself, a cop that is really a miller, an unknown bomb activator

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Hostiles and mafia are the same thing Bianca. Both mafia and killing third party are hostile to town with a few weird killing tp exceptions.

Then why didnt we ENDGAME? If Byngo is neutral, that leaves two and two , and we lost anyway as town.

So this lynch is really a fight between the TP and the mafia? because they still have winconditions to fulfill

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or is there really just one more hostile that we must lynch?

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If Chele is confirmed by kinging me, I am going to trust Dad on this...

and decide the lynch between Byngo and Chick...

Byngo could be a mafia aligned reviver and Chick is actually the day killer

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Yeah I think I'm banking on it being Chick the more I read into the situation.

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Chele did you try to king Heyden day 2? Please answer this.

She told me she did not King anyone day 2 because she is skeptical of anyone, and she might be lynched.

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Heyden's death is a mystery.

 

[Geoni]

I also think something is odd about my role because now that all of the claims are on the table I can't make sense of why a third person didn't die N1 but the power seemingly worked N2 if Farobi visited me. Unless N1 Ness used a random generator to assign my random shot and it was just piled onto either Punchy or Dedenne.

Bianca, did Chick use the wording 'mafia' in her roleclaim to you?

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Why would her claim word it as 'scum/mafia gets two night phases' rather than 'there will be two night phases'? Because town power roles have night actions as well so the night doesn't -just- belong to scum.

 

[Biancasbotique]

well not exactly the word mafia but here goes:

He said he is a beloved Princess, if he dies, Town automatically loses a day phase and SCUM gets an extra night phase.

 

[Geoni]

Psshhh sounds slippery.

 

[Biancasbotique]

Punchy basically confirmed he killed himself

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I really so want Chele to be confirmed..

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how did he even know there is even a scum in this game?

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If you are mafia Dad, and you win the game, its about time you make it through the end..They always kill you in the beginning lol

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And dad why did you ask me if Chick has mafia wording...seems so random ....which she conveniently have in her role claim to me?

are you in cahoots with each other?

 

[Geoni]

It's about time I make it through the end as town.

Anyways yeah I'm voting Chick although I'm still uncomfortable with Kingmaker not actually bringing about any kings the first two days. But Chick's explanation of her role doesn't sound like something that host would do. Host used the wording hostile in my win condition, not scum or mafia or anything like that.

 

[Biancasbotique]

Byngo seems to be least sussed among you all.

 

[Geoni]

....ugh actually unvoting, need to wait for them to respond