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I did homeschooling for a year, but due to me being an extrovert (and not being able to tolerate the only once a week homeschool meetings), I couldn't do it. I had to go to actual school.
 
Nah. I'm an introvert, but I've gone to private schools all my life.

I'd rather learn useless *censored.2.0* at real school, as opposed to learning next to nothing by being homeschooled.

I once had a friend who was homeschooled, he didn't learn anything. His mother had him write an essay about the state of Florida. It was two pages long, written illegibly, and said something like "FLORIDA IS A BIG STATE THEY MAKE LOTS OF ORANGES THERE--HERP DERP". She gave him Spongebob: The Movie Game as a reward.
 
Slickyrider said:
I'd rather learn useless *censored.2.0* at real school, as opposed to learning next to nothing by being homeschooled.

I once had a friend who was homeschooled, he didn't learn anything. His mother had him write an essay about the state of Florida. It was two pages long, written illegibly, and said something like "FLORIDA IS A BIG STATE THEY MAKE LOTS OF ORANGES THERE--HERP DERP". She gave him Spongebob: The Movie Game as a reward.
I don't think I've ever seen a more ******** generalization. Just because your anecdotal evidence supports an asinine notion doesn't make it true. Doesn't seem like public school taught you anything about logic and reasoning. I'm not going to detail my experiences as a homeschooler because I'm not the type to brag, but let's just say they would dismantle your theory.
 
Couldn't you tell, I was being sarcastic?

If anything, homeschooling teaches children more than they'll ever learn at an expensive private school, such as the one I attend. I find that the local public schools have imbued more knowledge within their students than my afformentioned private school has.

Then again, lurking on Wikipedia is certainly a more effective teaching technique than any government-regulated school. Children can learn what they want, when they want,
 
Slickyrider said:
Couldn't you tell, I was being sarcastic?

If anything, homeschooling teaches children more than they'll ever learn at an expensive private school, such as the one I attend.

Then again, lurking on Wikipedia is certainly a more effective teaching technique than any government-regulated school. Children can learn what they want, when they want,
Sorry. Sarcasm doesn't really work too well over the internet. Government-regulated or not, I think public schools don't move nearly as quickly as they should. Why are kids doing the same math from Grades 2 to 5? In fact, I'd argue that more government regulation would actually be beneficial to the state of learning in this country. Take the former Soviet Union, for example. They had only 10 grades and covered college material in grades 9 and 10, with a four-year college degree being equivalent to a 6-year Masters' Degree program in the US. Not all homeschooling is "learn what you want, when you want". It's certainly flexible, but I'd argue that that approach would be unschooling (look it up). Homeschooling, especially nowadays, tends to be very well structured. Take my accredited homeschool, Seton Home Study School, for instance. They send you the materials you need (books, tests, etc), and it's up to your parents to regulate when you take the tests. However, they also send you a syllabus with day-by-day breakdowns for each subject.

Personally speaking, I followed these of my own accord and essentially taught myself using the books/syllabus. If I had any questions, I could either ask counselors at the homeschool, my parents, or any other outside resources. Looking at it from a purely educational perspective, structurally-sound homeschooling eclipses anything today's public schooling system can offer. I don't know enough about private schools to comment on them, though.

Edit - For the record, I consider myself an extrovert and had few socialization issues with homeschooling.
 
Bulerias said:
Slickyrider said:
I'd rather learn useless *censored.2.0* at real school, as opposed to learning next to nothing by being homeschooled.

I once had a friend who was homeschooled, he didn't learn anything. His mother had him write an essay about the state of Florida. It was two pages long, written illegibly, and said something like "FLORIDA IS A BIG STATE THEY MAKE LOTS OF ORANGES THERE--HERP DERP". She gave him Spongebob: The Movie Game as a reward.
I don't think I've ever seen a more ******** generalization. Just because your anecdotal evidence supports an asinine notion doesn't make it true. Doesn't seem like public school taught you anything about logic and reasoning. I'm not going to detail my experiences as a homeschooler because I'm not the type to brag, but let's just say they would dismantle your theory.
Big words
 
True, I agree about your perspective on how well public schools function. ABC World News preformed research on how many children are proficient in reading and math skills in Grade 5, throughout America. The results were grim: they studied White and African-American children, less than half of the children in both groups were proficient in both subjects.

Now, I can see your stance on the whole "lurking on Wikipedia" school of thought: simply lurking on Wikipedia is not enough to fully educate our children in all of the required subjects. However, all schools move through their respective curriculums at a certain pace, as not to progress too quickly, for the sake of every individual child in the class. I now refer to your reasoning: "Why are kids doing the same math from Grades 2 to 5?" Even though such curriculums enrich kids with the necessary knowledge for any given subject in any given grade, how much are they really learning in a year?

Now, I never said homeschooling causes social issues. Homeschooled children have just as much of an opportunity, if not more, to socialize with others. Social matters make up a completely different topic.

Ah, yes, one more thing:

My friend, in the anecdote I described, was poorly homeschooled. He had an abusive father, his mother honestly was not fit to homeschool him...that entire family was extremely dysfunctional.

Addendum: Sorry for all of the minor errors. I am a native English speaker.
 
Slickyrider said:
However, all schools move through their respective curriculums at certain pace, as not to progress too quickly, for the sake of every individual child in the class. I now refer to your reasoning: "Why are kids doing the same math from Grades 2 to 5?" Even though such curriculums enrich kids with the necessary knowledge for any given subject in any given grade, how much are they really learning in a year?

Now, I never said homeschooling causes social issues. Homeschooled children have just as much of an opportunity, if not more, to socialize with others. Social matters make up a completely different topic.

Ah, yes, one more thing:

My friend, in the anecdote I described, was poorly homeschooled. He had an abusive father, his mother honestly was not fit to homeschool him...that entire family was extremely dysfunctional.
Why is this happening, though? Schools in every developed European country are moving at a faster pace. It seems that standardized testing and seemingly noble programs like "No Child Left Behind" have led us nowhere. I think it has less to do with what/how much kids are learning in a year, though, but rather, with what happens during that year that prevents them from learning. We do not need 8 hour school days. If anything, we need to have school on Saturdays (same system as Soviet Russia) while shortening the other days. I feel that school in shorter blocks would be much more effective than a long, pointless day. Ask any homeschooler how long they study each day and the average answer is going to be 3, 4 hours. There's a good reason for that -- less bull*censored.2.0* distractions and more meaningful learning through 1 on 1 instruction.

I wasn't referring to anything you said with the social thing, btw, just wanted to add a general note about my experience with that stuff.
 
Yes! Yes! I completely agree! Chinese children spend a substantially larger amount of time in the classroom, and much less time is allocated to actual learning in American classrooms. Standardized tests are useless, when children are categorized by whether or not they can pass by the government's regulations! Individual children need to be truly educated, not treated as either a pampered noble, or useless trash! You're right about the bull*censored.2.0* distractions, there are way too many of those in public and private schools alike. Trust me, there is a substantial amount more in private schools. You know, at my school, every single grade spends an entire 40 minutes praying. The morning service, as well as Torah readings on Mondays and Thursdays. Cut the mother*censored.3.0*ing crap! That's valuable time that could be spent learning, especially with all of the days off of school we get for Jewish holidays.

Also, yes, I detected that. I wanted to make sure you understood that I wasn't saying, homeschooled children are socially isolated.
 
OJ. said:
Josh. said:
Public, but why do people get homeschooled?
Uh...

more internets?
Terrible reason, You're eyes will hurt more and you'll forget what it feels to be outside.
(Not homeschooling, I mean if you're just on it for games and internet and not learning)
 
Nope, never had the need. One of the main reasons, apart from religions, is a crappy public education system that forces parents to home school. Luckily for me, I live in a very good public district. And even if I didn't, both parents work, so it wouldn't be feasible. I honestly wouldn't trade it for anything, because you get to be with your friends all day, rather than by yourself and a parent.
 
To me, Homeschooling is equivalent to small,but successful private schools. Less distractions, and sometimes, it's an easier environment to learn in. I've done all three: Homeschooling, Public School, and Private School (current). The former and the latter were the best. I hated Public School, sure, it has more freedom in the way you talk and act, but when it comes to education, some of the schools are subpar compared to Home and Private schools. I moved through two grades, covering the lack of teaching I received while in Public School, and getting an entirely new grade accomplished in the course of a year. I don't understand it when people complain about Homeschooling not benefitting you at all, when, in fact, if you have enough self-discipline, you can accomplish a lot more than you can in a public school.
 
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