Healthcare Bill Discussion

[Khocol4te]

What if their condom broke and they couldn't afford to have a baby, or pay for the hospital bills of giving birth:

Uncomplicated vag. delivery with epidural is $5000.00-7000.00

C-sections avg. $10,000.00- $15,000.00

Circumcision $400.00 avg.

Or the mother is in a condition that would cause complications?

 

[Sporge27]

Abortion is needed in some scenarios to save the mother, and if you claim all life is sacred and not to be destroyed then stop eating animals and plants cause they are just as living as an embryo at the times abortions are allowed. Life is to be respected, but must sometimes be altered, or even stopped. What I am saying is that abortions in themselves are not evil and so should be covered, but those who use an abortion as their crutch and keep getting them not learning their lesson are in the wrong here. If a girl screws up once and is truly sorry for her actions though, I think she can be forgiven.

 

[David]

You're just as silly and ignorant as ever, Bacon Boy.

We can all have are own opinions as long as we back it up with reason. Apparently I didn't, whoop de fackin do. If you know anything about my posts, you would know that no matter how much I rant, I do my best to back it up with reason.

The point of this thread was to discuss the bill, and now we're debating, trolling, and acting like total tarts cept for sporge and David. Other than that, it's almost everyone including me. Can't we all just get along? Sheesh, off topic mountains. I was interested in this topic until we became bast@rd Nazis.

 

[David]

What if their condom broke and they couldn't afford to have a baby, or pay for the hospital bills of giving birth:

Uncomplicated vag. delivery with epidural is $5000.00-7000.00

C-sections avg. $10,000.00- $15,000.00

Circumcision $400.00 avg.

Or the mother is in a condition that would cause complications?

they shouldnt be having sex in the first place. unless theyre married. abortions shouldnt even be an option,. UNLESS the mother is gonna die and theres no way else to save her

 

[Ren Partycat]

No way man. That there is self centered. I'm admitting I acted like a fool at some point, you should too.

It only proves you don't have the balls to get in Truth's face and yell: FACK YOU. In the end, I only want peace and on-topic topics. I'm out. But don't think this means you've won, oh no. Let the fates decide.

 

[David]

No way man. That there is self centered. I'm admitting I acted like a fool at some point, you should too.

It only proves you don't have the balls to get in Truth's face and yell: FACK YOU. In the end, I only want peace and on-topic topics. I'm out. But don't think this means you've won, oh no. Let the fates decide.

huh?

 

[Tyeforce]

What if their condom broke and they couldn't afford to have a baby, or pay for the hospital bills of giving birth:

Uncomplicated vag. delivery with epidural is $5000.00-7000.00

C-sections avg. $10,000.00- $15,000.00

Circumcision $400.00 avg.

Or the mother is in a condition that would cause complications?

they shouldnt be having sex in the first place. unless theyre married. abortions shouldnt even be an option,. UNLESS the mother is gonna die and theres no way else to save her

Or gay. ;D

Homosexuality: 100% effective birth control

XD

 

[Bacon Boy]

Problem with abortion is it comes back to haunt sometmes. My friend had one and thought nothing of it, but now, almost every night, she has nightmares about it. In my eyes it's wrong, not just because the sanctity of life, but the fact that that baby could have been someone special or could have made a big difference in the world.

 

[Sporge27]

Problem with abortion is it comes back to haunt sometmes. My friend had one and thought nothing of it, but now, almost every night, she has nightmares about it. In my eyes it's wrong, not just because the sanctity of life, but the fact that that baby could have been someone special or could have made a big difference in the world.

But by this logic every day you don't have sex and make a baby is preventing someone from being grown. I mean a sperm is half a cell and has the potential to be a human if you give it the chance.... and above trillions are lost daily....

Really many things could have been, but we are incapable for caring for every child we could possibly have.

Sorry, I put some in the quote somehow...

 

[Bacon Boy]

Problem with abortion is it comes back to haunt sometmes. My friend had one and thought nothing of it, but now, almost every night, she has nightmares about it. In my eyes it's wrong, not just because the sanctity of life, but the fact that that baby could have been someone special or could have made a big difference in the world.

But by this logic every day you don't have sex and make a baby is preventing someone from being grown. I mean a sperm is half a cell and has the potential to be a human if you give it the chance.... and above trillions are lost daily....

Really many things could have been, but we are incapable for caring for every child we could possibly have.

Where'd that part of my quote come from! And you're right, they do have the potential. But sperm cells and egg cells don't really affect the rest of the body. They're made seperately and they only copy the DNA.

It all matters on how and when you have sex. Abortion, for some, is used as a scapegoat for teenagers. The best birth control is not having sex.

 

[David]

Problem with abortion is it comes back to haunt sometmes. My friend had one and thought nothing of it, but now, almost every night, she has nightmares about it. In my eyes it's wrong, not just because the sanctity of life, but the fact that that baby could have been someone special or could have made a big difference in the world.

But by this logic every day you don't have sex and make a baby is preventing someone from being grown. I mean a sperm is half a cell and has the potential to be a human if you give it the chance.... and above trillions are lost daily....

Really many things could have been, but we are incapable for caring for every child we could possibly have.

Where'd that part of my quote come from! And you're right, they do have the potential. But sperm cells and egg cells don't really affect the rest of the body. They're made seperately and they only copy the DNA.

It all matters on how and when you have sex. Abortion, for some, is used as a scapegoat for teenagers. The best birth control is not having sex.

what about jerkin off? is that considered abortion?

 

[Rawburt]

How did this abortion topic come up? o-O

 

[Bacon Boy]

How did this abortion topic come up? o-O

It's part of the healthcare bill

 

[Sporge27]

Problem with abortion is it comes back to haunt sometmes. My friend had one and thought nothing of it, but now, almost every night, she has nightmares about it. In my eyes it's wrong, not just because the sanctity of life, but the fact that that baby could have been someone special or could have made a big difference in the world.

But by this logic every day you don't have sex and make a baby is preventing someone from being grown. I mean a sperm is half a cell and has the potential to be a human if you give it the chance.... and above trillions are lost daily....

Really many things could have been, but we are incapable for caring for every child we could possibly have.

Where'd that part of my quote come from! And you're right, they do have the potential. But sperm cells and egg cells don't really affect the rest of the body. They're made seperately and they only copy the DNA.

It all matters on how and when you have sex. Abortion, for some, is used as a scapegoat for teenagers. The best birth control is not having sex.

yes I know I fixed it I don't know how I stuck that in there on accident.

Not having sex does prevent babies, true, but really this leaves you sexually immature all the way until you want a baby. Sex can a good thing in you life. You need someone you trust and are attracted to who feels the same about you. It reduces stress gives health benefits, and boosts self esteem. Then come in condoms but those don't always work and you make worse decisions when you want sex, leading many a guy to convince a girl not to use one. Sex is complicated. Repressing it can really hurt your development. aka I had more but don't want to get into detail here, my bf is kinda well read on this topic because it was the area of his favorite teacher at his school.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Problem with abortion is it comes back to haunt sometmes. My friend had one and thought nothing of it, but now, almost every night, she has nightmares about it. In my eyes it's wrong, not just because the sanctity of life, but the fact that that baby could have been someone special or could have made a big difference in the world.

But by this logic every day you don't have sex and make a baby is preventing someone from being grown. I mean a sperm is half a cell and has the potential to be a human if you give it the chance.... and above trillions are lost daily....

Really many things could have been, but we are incapable for caring for every child we could possibly have.

Where'd that part of my quote come from! And you're right, they do have the potential. But sperm cells and egg cells don't really affect the rest of the body. They're made seperately and they only copy the DNA.

It all matters on how and when you have sex. Abortion, for some, is used as a scapegoat for teenagers. The best birth control is not having sex.

yes I know I fixed it I don't know how I stuck that in there on accident.

Not having sex does prevent babies, true, but really this leaves you sexually immature all the way until you want a baby. Sex can a good thing in you life. You need someone you trust and are attracted to who feels the same about you. It reduces stress gives health benefits, and boosts self esteem. Then come in condoms but those don't always work and you make worse decisions when you want sex, leading many a guy to convince a girl not to use one. Sex is complicated. Repressing it can really hurt your development.

coughmastirbationcough

 

[Tyeforce]

Problem with abortion is it comes back to haunt sometmes. My friend had one and thought nothing of it, but now, almost every night, she has nightmares about it. In my eyes it's wrong, not just because the sanctity of life, but the fact that that baby could have been someone special or could have made a big difference in the world.

But by this logic every day you don't have sex and make a baby is preventing someone from being grown. I mean a sperm is half a cell and has the potential to be a human if you give it the chance.... and above trillions are lost daily....

Really many things could have been, but we are incapable for caring for every child we could possibly have.

Where'd that part of my quote come from! And you're right, they do have the potential. But sperm cells and egg cells don't really affect the rest of the body. They're made seperately and they only copy the DNA.

It all matters on how and when you have sex. Abortion, for some, is used as a scapegoat for teenagers. The best birth control is not having sex.

yes I know I fixed it I don't know how I stuck that in there on accident.

Not having sex does prevent babies, true, but really this leaves you sexually immature all the way until you want a baby. Sex can a good thing in you life. You need someone you trust and are attracted to who feels the same about you. It reduces stress gives health benefits, and boosts self esteem. Then come in condoms but those don't always work and you make worse decisions when you want sex, leading many a guy to convince a girl not to use one. Sex is complicated. Repressing it can really hurt your development.

coughmastirbationcough

Masturbation isn't the same as sex, lol. Sex is a bonding between two people, and is sooooooo much better than masturbation. XD Masturbation can be helpful when you need it, but it's not a replacement for sex. And yes, the two can still coexist. XD

 

[Bacon Boy]

I see your point, but it's always good to wait.

 

[Sporge27]

Yes there is masturbation, but really not as satisfying, and I personally think it would be awful to get to the wedding night and find out you really stink at it... point being just be careful when dealing with it. Really everything in relationships are hard, because relationships are fragile.

Point being sex is hard to control, I think it is unreasonable to expect abstinence, that needs to be a personal choice, and an abortion can be a second chance for someone who really may need it. I just don't see human life until there is real thought processing going on in the head. Really there are also situations such as rape where an abortion really makes sense, after all do you want a child who reminds you of that awful person?

 

[Tyeforce]

I see your point, but it's always good to wait.

Not really. Straight couples just need to learn to use protection, and there wouldn't be any problems. <small>I'm so glad I don't have to. ;D</small> As long as you're in a committed relationship, sex is a wonderful extension of your relationship.

 

[Sporge27]

I see your point, but it's always good to wait.

Not really. Straight couples just need to learn to use protection, and there wouldn't be any problems. <small>I'm so glad I don't have to. ;D</small> As long as you're in a committed relationship, sex is a wonderful extension of your relationship.

:throwingrottenapples: you still need to know about protection! DISEASES!!! REMEMBER THE AWFUL PICTURES FROM HEALTH CLASS!!!