Healthcare Bill Discussion

[Sporge27]

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I know what I'm talking about. I do the research because it does affect me because taxes DO come out of my paycheck. I agree with my parents on this one, does that mean I'm basing it off of them? Hell no.

Some of us are intelligent, you know.

You don't make nearly enough to be affected by the tax increase.

He does however have a right to worry that it will eventually affect his.... sigh....

I still don't think it is really a needed worry, what you give to taxes goes right back to you unless you make so much money, and by that point you should be making enough to make a living...

People don't like it unless it all their money goes into their pocket I guess.

And that is understandable, people don't like the idea of people freeloading off what they made, but then you have to think of how people became poor. Most of the time they were just born into it, and really when you are without some help there is no way to get out of it sometimes...unless you just happen to be brilliant....but that is rare compared to how many get stuck.

 

[Bacon Boy]

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You don't make nearly enough to be affected by the tax increase.

He does however have a right to worry that it will eventually affect his.... sigh....

I still don't think it is really a needed worry, what you give to taxes goes right back to you unless you make so much money, and by that point you should be making enough to make a living...

People don't like it unless it all their money goes into their pocket I guess.

And that is understandable, people don't like the idea of people freeloading off what they made, but then you have to think of how people became poor. Most of the time they were just born into it, and really when you are without some help there is no way to get out of it sometimes...unless you just happen to be brilliant....but that is rare compared to how many get stuck.

Well then let us give to the poor on our own. It's our choice. Why should we be forced? I do already, my friends, parents, etc. But there are those that would rather not. So why shouldn't they have a choice?

 

[David]

speed up canadas wait times by a few hours and youve got a very good healthcare system.

 

[//RUN.exe]

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He does however have a right to worry that it will eventually affect his.... sigh....

I still don't think it is really a needed worry, what you give to taxes goes right back to you unless you make so much money, and by that point you should be making enough to make a living...

People don't like it unless it all their money goes into their pocket I guess.

And that is understandable, people don't like the idea of people freeloading off what they made, but then you have to think of how people became poor. Most of the time they were just born into it, and really when you are without some help there is no way to get out of it sometimes...unless you just happen to be brilliant....but that is rare compared to how many get stuck.

Well then let us give to the poor on our own. It's our choice. Why should we be forced? I do already, my friends, parents, etc. But there are those that would rather not. So why shouldn't they have a choice?

okay, now agree to allow women to get abortions. i mean, they should have that choice, right? :3

 

[Sporge27]

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He does however have a right to worry that it will eventually affect his.... sigh....

I still don't think it is really a needed worry, what you give to taxes goes right back to you unless you make so much money, and by that point you should be making enough to make a living...

People don't like it unless it all their money goes into their pocket I guess.

And that is understandable, people don't like the idea of people freeloading off what they made, but then you have to think of how people became poor. Most of the time they were just born into it, and really when you are without some help there is no way to get out of it sometimes...unless you just happen to be brilliant....but that is rare compared to how many get stuck.

Well then let us give to the poor on our own. It's our choice. Why should we be forced? I do already, my friends, parents, etc. But there are those that would rather not. So why shouldn't they have a choice?

Because some people, nay most people never would!

The point is that it is a system trying to balance the imbalance that lets the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. I hate to say it but some people are heartless and cut throat when it comes to business and money, and taxes are ther to prevent them from just endlessly gaining without giving anything back.

 

[Bacon Boy]

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People don't like it unless it all their money goes into their pocket I guess.

And that is understandable, people don't like the idea of people freeloading off what they made, but then you have to think of how people became poor. Most of the time they were just born into it, and really when you are without some help there is no way to get out of it sometimes...unless you just happen to be brilliant....but that is rare compared to how many get stuck.

Well then let us give to the poor on our own. It's our choice. Why should we be forced? I do already, my friends, parents, etc. But there are those that would rather not. So why shouldn't they have a choice?

Because some people, nay most people never would!

The point is that it is a system trying to balance the imbalance that lets the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. I hate to say it but some people are heartless and cut throat when it comes to business and money, and taxes are ther to prevent them from just endlessly gaining without giving anything back.

But then why should those who actually do good suffer from those who don't. I saw we go back to tax rates - Richer get taxed a bit more, Poorer get taxed less, and the middle class is the happy medium. Why should EVERYONE suffer for one person's inabilities or heartlessness?

 

[Nic]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepUninsured peeps often can't get access to a doctor, and use the ER as their primary care doctor. Hospitals can't turn dying people down, but if they can't be paid for, guess where the costs go? Yeha, the hospital.

Well, if a homeless person walks into the ER, they have to take care of them no doubt about it. Well so far all it is equaling out to that people who sit on there behinds getting free health care but us Americans are paying 50% of our income to them that is just some BS. Soon I bet you the whole USA everybody will be in the military no questions about it.

what?
Are you crazy? how does giving a hobo treatment for a broken leg lead to a militarized state?

I didn't say that. I am just saying if a homeless person walks into the ER room the doctors have to treat him.

What was this highlighted part even saying then?

Eh, never mind.

 

[Furry Sparks]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepUninsured peeps often can't get access to a doctor, and use the ER as their primary care doctor. Hospitals can't turn dying people down, but if they can't be paid for, guess where the costs go? Yeha, the hospital. Soon I bet you the whole USA everybody will be in the military no questions about it.

what?
Are you crazy? how does giving a hobo treatment for a broken leg lead to a militarized state?

I didn't say that. I am just saying if a homeless person walks into the ER room the doctors have to treat him.

What was this highlighted part even saying then?

Eh, never mind.

Whoever said that doctors have to treat someone is wrong. There is no law saying they have to. People die on ER floors.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepUninsured peeps often can't get access to a doctor, and use the ER as their primary care doctor. Hospitals can't turn dying people down, but if they can't be paid for, guess where the costs go? Yeha, the hospital. Soon I bet you the whole USA everybody will be in the military no questions about it.

I didn't say that. I am just saying if a homeless person walks into the ER room the doctors have to treat him.

What was this highlighted part even saying then?

Eh, never mind.

Whoever said that doctors have to treat someone is wrong. There is no law saying they have to. People die on ER floors.

There may be no law, but I'm almost certain it has to do with that Oath doctors take. The Hippocratic Oath or whatever.

 

[Furry Sparks]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepUninsured peeps often can't get access to a doctor, and use the ER as their primary care doctor. Hospitals can't turn dying people down, but if they can't be paid for, guess where the costs go? Yeha, the hospital. Soon I bet you the whole USA everybody will be in the military no questions about it.

What was this highlighted part even saying then?

Eh, never mind.

Whoever said that doctors have to treat someone is wrong. There is no law saying they have to. People die on ER floors.

There may be no law, but I'm almost certain it has to do with that Oath doctors take. The Hippocratic Oath or whatever.

That doesn't stop it from happening.

 

[Sporge27]

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And that is understandable, people don't like the idea of people freeloading off what they made, but then you have to think of how people became poor. Most of the time they were just born into it, and really when you are without some help there is no way to get out of it sometimes...unless you just happen to be brilliant....but that is rare compared to how many get stuck.

Well then let us give to the poor on our own. It's our choice. Why should we be forced? I do already, my friends, parents, etc. But there are those that would rather not. So why shouldn't they have a choice?

Because some people, nay most people never would!

The point is that it is a system trying to balance the imbalance that lets the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. I hate to say it but some people are heartless and cut throat when it comes to business and money, and taxes are ther to prevent them from just endlessly gaining without giving anything back.

But then why should those who actually do good suffer from those who don't. I saw we go back to tax rates - Richer get taxed a bit more, Poorer get taxed less, and the middle class is the happy medium. Why should EVERYONE suffer for one person's inabilities or heartlessness?

There is a point where you don't get taxed. But all taxes go towards public projects and helping less fortunate. For example roads, these are areas that we all own, and so all need to pitch in to maintain, and that alone is a costly affair. There are plenty other things that just make sense to all pitch in a little for because it benefits us all, things like the military and just about everything government run.

 

[Horus]

Hitting myself with bricks sense now

 

[Pear]

I feel kind of bad for this bill.
Conseratives want it to spontaneously combust, and flaming liberals like myself are like "HEY BRO WHERE'S THE PUBLIC OPTION?"

Poor little guy. :<

Exactly, both sides dislike it. Dems in congress keep trying to appease conservatives, and guess what, they still got 0 votes. It might actually be worth something if it had the public option. :/

I know, right? I don't see how people who oppose it can object to it THAT much. Is a little regulation on the insurance companies such a bad thing?
I was definitely kind of disappointed with it, but in a rare spurt of optimism I see it like a foundation which will hopefully have more built onto it. ^^

Little? XDDDDD

Why the hell do you think it took so long to push? This is a huge bill not only affecting insurance companies.

That's why we should've had the public option. It would've been autonomous from insurance companies, so the government would have to stick it's nose in everywhere else.

 

[Tyeforce]

I also heard this morning while my parents were talking that he is now letting aliens over and becoming US citizens. That is just a little step more until they nuke us.

I don't understand why people make such a big deal out of this. None of you would be Americans if your ancestors hadn't became US citizens (unless you're 100% native American). Why can't people have that freedom today if they want it?

 

[Bacon Boy]

I agree with Tye. At first I didn't know what nic said. I though illegals said they didn't want a citizenship. That's what bothers me.