Healthcare Bill Discussion

[Sporge27]

I don't think I can tell who is being sarcastic in this thread, cause some people are saying ridiculous things about how awful this is and honestly you hear people who do think its bad say those things...

I honestly think this is a good thing to reel in the insurance companies... some, if not all, just take advantage of people in difficult situations. I mean when you have insurance, pay for it and then when you need it find out it will do anything not to help you is just ridiculous. I honestly don't know how this will go, but so many other countries have it and it works out alright. I mean considering Canada does, and has a higher life expectancy, lower infant mortality, and lower costs....

 

[David]

canadas health care is good, if its like canadas then im fine with it

 

[Bacon Boy]

I just hope it'll be optional. Because there are those who have good insurance companies. I don't think the government needs to control EVERYONE and tell them which insurance company to use.

 

[Sporge27]

I just hope it'll be optional. Because there are those who have good insurance companies. I don't think the government needs to control EVERYONE and tell them which insurance company to use.

I'm fairly certain that was in there... I haven't read the one they passed, honestly I stopped paying attention to it cause I couldn't see them ever getting it passed, so I'm pleasantly surprised.

 

[David]

I just hope it'll be optional. Because there are those who have good insurance companies. I don't think the government needs to control EVERYONE and tell them which insurance company to use.

i dont entirely know about canadas stuff, cause i cant be bothered all i know is that its free, which is good, cause some people need it if they have medical conditions

 

[Khocol4te]

So having free health care is a bad thing now?

 

[Bacon Boy]

I can understand that, but there's that feeling of independence. When you're a kid, you need your parents there to help you along and get started. Then, as you get older, you leave on your own. Same thing with the government. If someone is in a childlike state of insurance or economic dismay then yes, then need their government.

BUT

There are those that are ready to be out on their own. They shouldn't be forced into staying at home relying on mommy government.

Also, I'd want the government to pay for this. Not me. I don't want my taxes going towards the healthcare plan of some random person that is too lazy to do anything. If they CANT do anything, then they need someone to rely on. Fine. But why should they have to rely on my money that I need to get by with? This is going to backfire because people are going to stop paying taxes and call bankrupcy because they see they'll get through life with a free ticket to ride.

 

[Matfox]

America: WE WANT HEALTH CARE!
Obama: Here you go....
America: WE DONT WANT IT NOW! :S

 

[Khocol4te]

You guys are all idiots.

Free health care is a good thing. Look at Sweden, they have free health care, and they start out buy paying for it during their lives.
Who would take care of you when you are older, and can't help yourself? Not your parents.
Paying for these taxes is used for assurance, that if anything happens to you, you would always be cared for.

You aren't paying for some random guy on the street who got hit by a bus. You are paying these taxes to support yourself, when you can't.

 

[Tyeforce]

America: WE WANT HEALTH CARE!
Obama: Here you go....
America: WE DONT WANT IT NOW! :S

Lol, so true. Americans will complain about anything. >_>

 

[Bacon Boy]

You guys are all idiots.

Free health care is a good thing. Look at Sweden, they have free health care, and they start out buy paying for it during their lives.
Who would take care of you when you are older, and can't help yourself? Not your parents.
Paying for these taxes is used for assurance, that if anything happens to you, you would always be cared for.

You aren't paying for some random guy on the street who got hit by a bus. You are paying these taxes to support yourself, when you can't.

I'd rather be sick independent person than a healthy government reliant baby that cries when it needs something. I know plenty of old old people who are taking care of themselves instead of taking the retirement home program they were offered. They are very sick, but that started before denying the government's offer. They live in their own houses and do everything on their own.

The quote that was in the andy's tip of the day thread "free is *something*, but paying is satisfactory."

And don't generalize about Americans. Yes, we wanted healthcare reform. Did we want the government controlled one? I didn't anyways. Find in the constitution and tell me where it says the government has the right or needs to control healthcare.

 

[Rawburt]

America: WE WANT HEALTH CARE!
Obama: Here you go....
America: WE DONT WANT IT NOW! :S

Lol, so true. Americans will complain about anything. >_>

lolwut, way to generalize an entire nationality there.

 

[Khocol4te]

If you don't like the way the country is going, then get the fuck out.
The constitution doesn't say that you have to live in America either, does it?

 

[Bacon Boy]

If you don't like the way the country is going, then get the fuck out.
The constitution doesn't say that you have to live in America either, does it?

I wish we had the money to move. That'd be a dream come true.

 

[Tyeforce]

America: WE WANT HEALTH CARE!
Obama: Here you go....
America: WE DONT WANT IT NOW! :S

Lol, so true. Americans will complain about anything. >_>

lolwut, way to generalize an entire nationality there.

Hey, I'm American. Of course what I said doesn't apply to all Americans. But with how people are reacting to this, it certainly makes it seem like the majority of them do.

 

[Rawburt]

If you don't like the way the country is going, then get the fuck out.
The constitution doesn't say that you have to live in America either, does it?

Well, it's our right to have problems with the government and express them.

But I think people are overreacting about it, for the most part it won't have too much of an impact on our lives and it will really do some good in our country.

@ Tye: I know there are lots of people like that here, but those kinds of people are in every nation everywhere, it's not exclusive to us.

 

[Bacon Boy]

America: WE WANT HEALTH CARE!
Obama: Here you go....
America: WE DONT WANT IT NOW! :S

Lol, so true. Americans will complain about anything. >_>

lolwut, way to generalize an entire nationality there.

Hey, I'm American. Of course what I said doesn't apply to all Americans. But with how people are reacting to this, it certainly makes it seem like the majority of them do.

But we do have a right to complain. A lot of people, save the democrats and Obamaniacs, didn't want the bill this way or at all. The government should listen to the people more.

 

[Khocol4te]

You guys are all complaining about something that is helping the nation.
Cry more.

 

[Tyeforce]

@ Tye: I know there are lots of people like that here, but those kinds of people are in every nation everywhere, it's not exclusive to us.

Yes, but American has more of those kind of people than the other countries. =P

 

[Tyeforce]

America: WE WANT HEALTH CARE!
Obama: Here you go....
America: WE DONT WANT IT NOW! :S

Lol, so true. Americans will complain about anything. >_>

lolwut, way to generalize an entire nationality there.

Hey, I'm American. Of course what I said doesn't apply to all Americans. But with how people are reacting to this, it certainly makes it seem like the majority of them do.

But we do have a right to complain. A lot of people, save the democrats and Obamaniacs, didn't want the bill this way or at all. The government should listen to the people more.

The only people I've heard complain about the stupid thing are people who hate Obama. The only reason why they hate the bill is because Obama is president. If someone else was president who they liked, then it'd be A-OK to them. Ugh, people. >_>