Game still not finished?
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It seems strange people are stressing over stuff we don’t know for a fact yet. Like there’s SO much good going for this game at the moment, and it’s currently been rated the highest out of any animal crossing game.
They’ve added SO much stuff and many reviewers haven’t even scratched the surface. They’ve had it for 3 weeks, and leakers have had it a couple of days...We know there will be DLC so it seems weird to be pessimistic about it all when you could be positive about what we do have and what could come in the future.
Sure, have an opinion on it, but only being pessimistic now and arguing about small things missing compared to all that’s been added and improved just seems a bit ungrateful to me.
It’s not constructive criticism if you’re just moaning.
Don’t let the missing few things take away the excitement everyone has had for EVERYTHING ELSE in this game.
They’ve added SO much stuff and many reviewers haven’t even scratched the surface. They’ve had it for 3 weeks, and leakers have had it a couple of days...We know there will be DLC so it seems weird to be pessimistic about it all when you could be positive about what we do have and what could come in the future.
Sure, have an opinion on it, but only being pessimistic now and arguing about small things missing compared to all that’s been added and improved just seems a bit ungrateful to me.
It’s not constructive criticism if you’re just moaning.
Don’t let the missing few things take away the excitement everyone has had for EVERYTHING ELSE in this game.
I really love the series and want the best for it! I also do trust that Nintendo will do well by it.
I just don't want to see us settle for taking 2 steps back to take 3 steps forward, you know? Losing some content and the things we've grown to love over the years to gain a little more. AC fans in general felt forgotten entirely by Nintendo - the subpar spinoffs, the microtransaction madness that is Pocket Camp, the drip feed of info we got after E3, the postponed release date of the game... the initial issues with the game like no save cloud... it was rough there for a while haha.
I'm also especially sore because the release of the LE Switch was a fiasco. I know it's not ENTIRELY Nintendo's fault, because the COVID 19 seriously affected electronics production, but we do know they like to make false scarcity of their products and prey on FOMO (NES Classic, anyone?)
It's just a lot of little things adding up. I think the stress of viral lockdown is getting to most of us, haha.
I just don't want to see us settle for taking 2 steps back to take 3 steps forward, you know? Losing some content and the things we've grown to love over the years to gain a little more. AC fans in general felt forgotten entirely by Nintendo - the subpar spinoffs, the microtransaction madness that is Pocket Camp, the drip feed of info we got after E3, the postponed release date of the game... the initial issues with the game like no save cloud... it was rough there for a while haha.
I'm also especially sore because the release of the LE Switch was a fiasco. I know it's not ENTIRELY Nintendo's fault, because the COVID 19 seriously affected electronics production, but we do know they like to make false scarcity of their products and prey on FOMO (NES Classic, anyone?)
It's just a lot of little things adding up. I think the stress of viral lockdown is getting to most of us, haha.
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resettispaghetti
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This was a duplicate post, sorry!
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Officer Berri
Cousin Redd's Nightmare
It's completely okay to be critical of things you love.
It's also okay to be critical of things you've yet to watch/play/etc. Why? Because we live in an age where if I want to find out if I'll enjoy a game I can always look up lets plays and reviews online and literally see what its like and how it plays. And since data-mining has already started from what I can tell, we can further see what is/is not in the game as of the current update status.
While I don't feel the game is incomplete (they would not be releasing it in a state they felt was not complete enough to be a game), I will still question decisions they made. Not having gyroids, while not a big deal to me since I rarely put them up as furniture, is still a strange and unpleasant change considering for every game prior they have been present since day 1. I feel the same over the fact that from what I've seen, paintings are no longer part of the museum. While collecting them all was a pain, I loved how the art section of the museum had expanded to statues as well as paintings. I'll miss them, and also worry what Redd will even do now (if he's in the game at all) if its not to sell art.
I'm somewhat iffy on the holidays as updates, regardless of if they're free or not. But only on a conditional basis. That condition is whether or not the update permanently adds said holiday to the roster of yearly events and it doesn't cease to exist once a new update happens. Basically, I want the holiday updates to simply be adding features to the game as compared to being mobile or mmo like timed events that you have no access to if you purchase the game, say, 10 years from now. If these holidays as updates work as a way for the events to be developed and fine tuned properly after the game comes out before the holiday happens itself that's fine. But if we're gonna rely on them continuing to update the game so I can have Halloween every year you bet your bottom I'm gonna be critical of their decisions. I like not missing out on features for video games because I discovered it and started playing years after the people were actively updating it.
I'm waiting with a positive attitude for the most part. But I am very cautious and open to criticism. Nothing's perfect, especially not Nintendo or any other company. People play these games for many different reasons, and in many different ways. There's no reason to tell someone they can't be upset about something unless the thing they're currently upset or worried about has already proven to be untrue.
Also humans gonna complain and fuss over things. It's sort of what we do. *shrug*
It's also okay to be critical of things you've yet to watch/play/etc. Why? Because we live in an age where if I want to find out if I'll enjoy a game I can always look up lets plays and reviews online and literally see what its like and how it plays. And since data-mining has already started from what I can tell, we can further see what is/is not in the game as of the current update status.
While I don't feel the game is incomplete (they would not be releasing it in a state they felt was not complete enough to be a game), I will still question decisions they made. Not having gyroids, while not a big deal to me since I rarely put them up as furniture, is still a strange and unpleasant change considering for every game prior they have been present since day 1. I feel the same over the fact that from what I've seen, paintings are no longer part of the museum. While collecting them all was a pain, I loved how the art section of the museum had expanded to statues as well as paintings. I'll miss them, and also worry what Redd will even do now (if he's in the game at all) if its not to sell art.
I'm somewhat iffy on the holidays as updates, regardless of if they're free or not. But only on a conditional basis. That condition is whether or not the update permanently adds said holiday to the roster of yearly events and it doesn't cease to exist once a new update happens. Basically, I want the holiday updates to simply be adding features to the game as compared to being mobile or mmo like timed events that you have no access to if you purchase the game, say, 10 years from now. If these holidays as updates work as a way for the events to be developed and fine tuned properly after the game comes out before the holiday happens itself that's fine. But if we're gonna rely on them continuing to update the game so I can have Halloween every year you bet your bottom I'm gonna be critical of their decisions. I like not missing out on features for video games because I discovered it and started playing years after the people were actively updating it.
I'm waiting with a positive attitude for the most part. But I am very cautious and open to criticism. Nothing's perfect, especially not Nintendo or any other company. People play these games for many different reasons, and in many different ways. There's no reason to tell someone they can't be upset about something unless the thing they're currently upset or worried about has already proven to be untrue.
Also humans gonna complain and fuss over things. It's sort of what we do. *shrug*
X0XGabbyX0X
professional slacker
Complaining is my favorite hobby. Trust me I love animal crossing as a series but I will always critique the hell out of it before saying one good thing hehe.
The other side of this issue that really divides the community is how it impacts Time Travel. I suppose if Nintendo really wants to stop us from doing it at all, that's their decision. But whether or not one personally agrees that TTing is a valid way to play the game, Animal Crossing is not a competitive game where someone else's gameplay decisions affect us at all. It feels very anti-consumer, especially with the lack of Cloud saves and inability to move our saves between systems. I know they are going to release more information on that, but I really wonder how accessible and reasonable it will end up being. People are still struggling to get Joycon drift repaired.
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Complaining is my favorite hobby. Trust me I love animal crossing as a series but I will always critique the hell out of it before saying one good thing hehe.
I'm a professional complainer, as you can see.
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X0XGabbyX0X
professional slacker
The other side of this issue that really divides the community is how it impacts Time Travel. I suppose if Nintendo really wants to stop us from doing it at all, that's their decision. But whether or not one personally agrees that TTing is a valid way to play the game, Animal Crossing is not a competitive game where someone else's gameplay decisions affect us at all. It feels very anti-consumer, especially with the lack of Cloud saves and inability to move our saves between systems. I know they are going to release more information on that, but I really wonder how accessible and reasonable it will end up being. People are still struggling to get Joycon drift repaired.
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I'm a professional complainer, as you can see.
Yes, yes, YES! THE CLOUD SAVES! I refuse to believe that was a smart decision I don't care what anyone says I want those freakin cloud saves!!!
X0XGabbyX0X
professional slacker
I was majorly chafed by that decision even before all of this datamining
The decision is so bizarre to me. I get that hacking isn't great, but AC isn't a game where there's "leaderboards" or "ranks", so most of the hacking doesn't affect other players or Nintendo as a whole... Besides, I think that getting rid of the only backup just so people can't hack seems sooo extra.
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Nintendo plz I just want to put bamboo in my rivers because it looks cute
X0XGabbyX0X
professional slacker
I just want bamboo in my rivers and weeds over my bridges.
Is that too much to ask for...*sigh*
resettispaghetti
Junior Member
I’m sorry but dictating how other people are supposed to feel about something is not okay. People are allowed to voice any concerns they have regardless how much information is released about the game or not. Considering most people’s concerns are based on the information we have about the game so far, many of their concerns are not completely unfounded.
Let me add that venting these concerns may be a way for people who love the game to cope with all the information that is swirling around. It can be comforting to talk to others about something that worries you. How unfair is it to tell these people they have no right to feel the way they do. That they have no right to voice their concerns. That right there is silencing an entire group of people and it creates an unwelcoming vibe for those who simply want to engage with the community and talk about what’s on their mind.
That sort of mindset is toxic, harmful and completely upsetting to me. The fact that people are arguing that everyone with a “negative” opinion should be quiet and go away because “the game isn’t out yet” is not okay. Let people voice their concerns and stop trying to silence people.
Just because you are okay with everything we have seen so far does not mean other people have to be as well. You are not obligated to read a thread you deem negative. So if it bothers you to point that you feel the need to start judging people and dictating how they should feel about something then you can move along.
Let me add that venting these concerns may be a way for people who love the game to cope with all the information that is swirling around. It can be comforting to talk to others about something that worries you. How unfair is it to tell these people they have no right to feel the way they do. That they have no right to voice their concerns. That right there is silencing an entire group of people and it creates an unwelcoming vibe for those who simply want to engage with the community and talk about what’s on their mind.
That sort of mindset is toxic, harmful and completely upsetting to me. The fact that people are arguing that everyone with a “negative” opinion should be quiet and go away because “the game isn’t out yet” is not okay. Let people voice their concerns and stop trying to silence people.
Just because you are okay with everything we have seen so far does not mean other people have to be as well. You are not obligated to read a thread you deem negative. So if it bothers you to point that you feel the need to start judging people and dictating how they should feel about something then you can move along.
tybalt_cake
heavymetallover
most games nowadays tend to do that , so even through the game looks pretty finished , if there's something the devs forgot they could just release a free dlc (just like splatoon tends to do).
it does seem a bit uncompleted in a way or maybe nintendo is just purposely hiding certain things behind future updates. regardless, we will be getting updates so hopefully those will add in the rest of the features that might currently be missing. i mean, they’ve delayed this release once before so i can see why they wouldn’t want to delay it again, hence why we’ll be getting updates as time goes on aha
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I actually do feel like the game was rushed/is not finished, despite the delay. I've been sharing my thoughts about this with several friends as well. I do think the downloadable updates for Holiday's especially is justifiable, helps combat time traveling to a certain degree, and also allows for the bigger events to not be spoiled. But there is so little we know about the game, and it releases in a couple of day's.
It's strange, because with New Leaf we received so much information regarding the game, to the point where we pretty much knew for certain what was in the game, and what wasn't by this time before it was released. For the most part, we really know a lot about crafting, and terraforming. It seems Nintendo decided to share most info regarding these things with us, and completely ignored everything else. Overall, there has been a huge LACK of transparency for this game, and although it's been improving since the Direct, even with a couple day's remaining until the games launch - there's a lot that has yet to be confirmed and denied.
I do think that major updates will be planned for this game sometime down the line, I've been watching a lot of early adopters of the game stream it today, and some parts of the game definitely feel like Nintendo is saving room for some sort of DLC update. Especially the airport, and the ability to travel to nearby islands - it definitely feels like something more is going to be added with that down the line. Obviously I have no real concrete evidence to back any of this up, but I've noticed a similar trend with other titles which were later to receive fairly large updates down the line which added more to the game. Not only that, but a good majority of Nintendo's "non-remake or DX" first party titles have received DLC updates for at least a year or so following it's release which have either been expansion based, or constant DLC updates, I see this being no different with Horizons. I think it's safe to expect with each seasonal event update they decide to do - something else, perhaps big or small, will also be added to the game. We'll just have to wait and see.
Needless to say, the game, as of now, has a ton of content and should keep you entertained for a good while before the next update - assuming you don't time travel.
It's strange, because with New Leaf we received so much information regarding the game, to the point where we pretty much knew for certain what was in the game, and what wasn't by this time before it was released. For the most part, we really know a lot about crafting, and terraforming. It seems Nintendo decided to share most info regarding these things with us, and completely ignored everything else. Overall, there has been a huge LACK of transparency for this game, and although it's been improving since the Direct, even with a couple day's remaining until the games launch - there's a lot that has yet to be confirmed and denied.
I do think that major updates will be planned for this game sometime down the line, I've been watching a lot of early adopters of the game stream it today, and some parts of the game definitely feel like Nintendo is saving room for some sort of DLC update. Especially the airport, and the ability to travel to nearby islands - it definitely feels like something more is going to be added with that down the line. Obviously I have no real concrete evidence to back any of this up, but I've noticed a similar trend with other titles which were later to receive fairly large updates down the line which added more to the game. Not only that, but a good majority of Nintendo's "non-remake or DX" first party titles have received DLC updates for at least a year or so following it's release which have either been expansion based, or constant DLC updates, I see this being no different with Horizons. I think it's safe to expect with each seasonal event update they decide to do - something else, perhaps big or small, will also be added to the game. We'll just have to wait and see.
Needless to say, the game, as of now, has a ton of content and should keep you entertained for a good while before the next update - assuming you don't time travel.
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FaerieRose
Ascendant Bookworm
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Give it to Monolith Soft.
Monolith would be awesome... maybe Retro if they do good with Metroid Prime 4.
I want Pokemon Colosseum but in the 2020's
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