For all you Blue-Rose breeders, how long did it take you to get your first one?

I've been trying to make hybrid flowers for a month now. But the only blue rose I have appeared when and where I wasn't expecting. The third level left side of my island is small and I have a secondary character's house there (Snow White's princess theme B&B). There's a stone fence around the house with 1 cliff space on the outside of the fence. I had 3 red roses next to the left of her house. One day a blue rose appeared behind a cedar tree on the other side of the fence, right on the cliff. Weird!

I have managed to breed purple hyacinths and green mums and finally got my first purple pansy. But no more blue roses yet. *Sigh*
 
Judging by the sounds of things, I got lucky enough that my brother got roses as his native flower and he got it on release. He gave me a couple island hybrid orange roses after I found the early guides. It still took two or three weeks before I saw my first blue. Mad props to y’all’s who stick through the long process!
 
Blue roses are the only flower hybrid I didn't breed myself on my island. I never had any luck. The first few guides that came out had incorrect information so I wasted a lot of time breeding the wrong flowers. So I kinda gave in after that and traded with someone online for them! Mad respect for people who breed them and don't have roses as their native flower!
 
Khaelis said:
I can already tell you that this image is slightly inefficient.

You want to use the 1010 Red Rose and pair it with a 0200 Yellow-Seed Rose as it produces a 1110 Red Rose at a 25% rate compared to 12.5% when done with a 1011 Pink Rose.

The more efficient way (which is the one you quoted to suggest your method):

1. 0010 White-Seed + 0010 White-Seed = 0020 Purple (25%)
2. 0020 Purple-Rose + 2001 Red-Seed = 1010 Red-Hybrid (50%)
3. 1010 Red-Hybrid + 0200 Yellow-Seed = 1110 Red-Hybrid (25%)
4. 1110 Red-Hybrid + 1110 Red-Hybrid = 2220 Blue-Rose (1.56%)
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Thanks for pointing that out, that explains why I only got my first blue rose in almost 2 months even with visitor periodically watering. I just want to make sure the fellow forumer I quoted didn’t get the wrong hybrids in the process because his method is different than what I have seen. As long as his method works, we are good :) .
 
FraudulentDimetrodon said:
Good luck with the breeding, and hang in there! Knowing is half the battle, so I think you'll be fine now. I'd recommend checking out the methods in the link I gave you in my previous post to find one that you like. If you just want something simple, there are plenty of methods in that guide that don't require much oversight. The more complicated methods require precise managing of genes and knowledge of the breeding/cloning mechanics, but will get you Blue Roses faster.

Thanks to the power of datamining, we know basically everything about flower breeding now. Like which layouts are the best (for example, the diagonal checkerboard pattern that most of us used in NL isn't a good one) and how exactly the genetics works. If you're also not familiar with the datamining stuff, I'd recommend checking out some the guides here. They'll help you better understand the different methods I linked to.

Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions. I'm also stubborn and like breeding flowers on my own, so I get it. :'D
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Btw, when you said you used Asteriation's Genepool, you mean the one that leads to the ~5% blue roses right? Not the 4-step plan?
 
I just started from scratch today inspired by this thread so I'll let you guys know how long it takes me. Might need to re-read the thread a few times to figure out what the best method truly is.
 
Trundle said:
I just started from scratch today inspired by this thread so I'll let you guys know how long it takes me. Might need to re-read the thread a few times to figure out what the best method truly is.
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Yeah, me too! Have to scrap everything I did at this point!
 
Matt0106 said:
Btw, when you said you used Asteriation's Genepool, you mean the one that leads to the ~5% blue roses right? Not the 4-step plan?
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Yep, that's the one that I used; the long and complicated one. It's one of the faster methods, but it requires you to be confident that that you can stay organized and really understand all the mechanics behind the genes, cloning, and such.

Trundle said:
I just started from scratch today inspired by this thread so I'll let you guys know how long it takes me. Might need to re-read the thread a few times to figure out what the best method truly is.
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Best of luck! Really, there's no "best" method because it depends on what your priorities are. You have easier methods that don't require advanced knowledge of the mechanics and managing of breeding plots, but they tend to be slower. On the other hand, you have much faster methods, but they require you to understand the genetics behind things, or require you to manage your breeding plots to avoid contamination, or require individual testing, and so and so. It just depends on what you're willing to put the time into.
 
FraudulentDimetrodon said:
Yep, that's the one that I used; the long and complicated one. It's one of the faster methods, but it requires you to be confident that that you can stay organized and really understand all the mechanics behind the genes, cloning, and such.



Best of luck! Really, there's no "best" method because it depends on what your priorities are. You have easier methods that don't require advanced knowledge of the mechanics and managing of breeding plots, but they tend to be slower. On the other hand, you have much faster methods, but they require you to understand the genetics behind things, or require you to manage your breeding plots to avoid contamination, or require individual testing, and so and so. It just depends on what you're willing to put the time into.
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Back in City Folk and New Leaf I considered myself a really good hybreeder but NH has changed the game more than I anticipated. I may as well start learning now!
 
Trundle said:
Back in City Folk and New Leaf I considered myself a really good hybreeder but NH has changed the game more than I anticipated. I may as well start learning now!
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Same hat! I also bred everything by hand in NL. It took me 4 months to get a pair of Blue Roses, haha. Cloning flowers is definitely a big game changer. If you liked getting into the nitty-gritty of things back in the good ol' days, I think you'll do just as great now. Or even better thanks to the power of datamining. :'D That's the main thing, really, just knowing how the mechanics actually work instead of just going off of guesswork.
 
I was quite fortunate that when I got the game I decided to villager hunt once I realized the dynamics of open plots and NMT islands. During those hunts I got a hybrid rose island (roses being one of my natural flowers on my island) that had a bunch of orange roses. I literally took 30 orange roses from that island to decorate my own. Soon after that I got a few blue roses to spawn from those orange roses.

Fast forward to one of (if not the first) data mines of the game, and it turned out that the orange roses from the hybrid islands had a decent chance of spawning blue roses. I believe that they had to be only from the hybrid island, and couldn't be spawned other ways. From there on out I just planted the blue roses next to each other to eventually get a ton of them. Was quite nice as doing the tier 2 red rose way is definitely wayyy more difficult haha

Side note, it's really annoying that Nintendo decided to remove both of the hybrid island possibilities. They were some of the most fun to find while villager hunting, or material gathering on NMT islands.
 
BalloonFight said:
I was quite fortunate that when I got the game I decided to villager hunt once I realized the dynamics of open plots and NMT islands. During those hunts I got a hybrid rose island (roses being one of my natural flowers on my island) that had a bunch of orange roses. I literally took 30 orange roses from that island to decorate my own. Soon after that I got a few blue roses to spawn from those orange roses.

Fast forward to one of (if not the first) data mines of the game, and it turned out that the orange roses from the hybrid islands had a decent chance of spawning blue roses. I believe that they had to be only from the hybrid island, and couldn't be spawned other ways. From there on out I just planted the blue roses next to each other to eventually get a ton of them. Was quite nice as doing the tier 2 red rose way is definitely wayyy more difficult haha

Side note, it's really annoying that Nintendo decided to remove both of the hybrid island possibilities. They were some of the most fun to find while villager hunting, or material gathering on NMT islands.
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Yeah I miss those islands, they were really great :( (Would've made breeding purple windflowers SO much faster)
 
Matt0106 said:
That's been my struggle; I feel like most of the hybrid reds I have aren't the right ones.
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I feel you! I'd recommend doing what I did and seeing what happens. Ironically, this morning a second cloned pair spawned a blue rose, so I know at least two of my red hybrids were the right ones.
 
I followed a method I found on YouTube and it took me almost 3 months. My daughter used the same method and it took her 2 months. If you want the lInk, let me know.
 
Still don't have a blue rose(s) to this day. Part of the issue is I have not spent the time to look up how to breed them yet... 🙄
 
My sister said it took at least 4 weeks to get two and then after that she kept on watering just the blue roses and came in like crazy.
 
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