first person shooters

Rawburt said:
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Haha, so everyone that plays FPSs are psychos since they enjoy killing things virtually and they're so similar, am I right?
I didn't say that. No, playing shooters doesn't make you a murderer. But the question is, why would anyone want to kill someone at all, be it in real life or virtually?!
Because people are aggressive by nature. There's nothing wrong with that on it's own and it's not just something that goes away, and hey games can actually make you use it in a healthy way.

And you can't compare the humans you kill in games to people in real life, they have no souls, no history, nothing, they're just obstacles you have to overcome in the game, they're just the same thing every game adds in for challenge, just giving them human shapes doesn't make them human.

When it comes down to it, people who play them just like tense situations, fun toys and things to use it on, there's no moral dilemma playing games.

I don't even like FPS's either, they are not my type of game, but to imply that it's morally wrong to play them is just not true. Just because you don't see the value of something doesn't mean nothing but bad things can come of it.
You don't understand. It's the principle of it. No, you're not killing real people, but you're simulating it. And, no, not all people are aggressive by nature. And even if some are, they don't have to simulate killing humans. They could just as well be playing a fighting game like Super Smash Bros. Brawl. There's action and fighting, so it can be a great outlet for your aggression, but without the blood, gore, death, and killing other people.
 
David said:
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I didn't say that. No, playing shooters doesn't make you a murderer. But the question is, why would anyone want to kill someone at all, be it in real life or virtually?!
Because people are aggressive by nature. There's nothing wrong with that on it's own and it's not just something that goes away, and hey games can actually make you use it in a healthy way.

And you can't compare the humans you kill in games to people in real life, they have no souls, no history, nothing, they're just obstacles you have to overcome in the game, they're just the same thing every game adds in for challenge, just giving them human shapes doesn't make them human.

When it comes down to it, people who play them just like tense situations, fun toys and things to use it on, there's no moral dilemma playing games.

I don't even like FPS's either, they are not my type of game, but to imply that it's morally wrong to play them is just not true. Just because you don't see the value of something doesn't mean nothing but bad things can come of it.
i play because theyre fun, theyre not real, and its just cool for me to be able to be a special ops/marine/ranger. the guns they use are cool, their tactics are cool, the gadgets they have are cool, its just all around cool/fun for me. it also lets me appreciate what these guys actually do in real life. and playing call of duty world at war actually helped me better understand what my grandfather went through as a kid, and even my great grandfather, he was a sniper for the german army, he killed 36 men. and like you said rob, none of its real, and the people arent real. i also really enjoy the storys written behind all these game, and i like the adrenaline rushes that the almighty multiplayer gives you.
If you enjoy war and killing people so much, why don't you just go join the army? What, are you afraid to risk your life in real life, so you play video games instead?
 
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Because people are aggressive by nature. There's nothing wrong with that on it's own and it's not just something that goes away, and hey games can actually make you use it in a healthy way.

And you can't compare the humans you kill in games to people in real life, they have no souls, no history, nothing, they're just obstacles you have to overcome in the game, they're just the same thing every game adds in for challenge, just giving them human shapes doesn't make them human.

When it comes down to it, people who play them just like tense situations, fun toys and things to use it on, there's no moral dilemma playing games.

I don't even like FPS's either, they are not my type of game, but to imply that it's morally wrong to play them is just not true. Just because you don't see the value of something doesn't mean nothing but bad things can come of it.
i play because theyre fun, theyre not real, and its just cool for me to be able to be a special ops/marine/ranger. the guns they use are cool, their tactics are cool, the gadgets they have are cool, its just all around cool/fun for me. it also lets me appreciate what these guys actually do in real life. and playing call of duty world at war actually helped me better understand what my grandfather went through as a kid, and even my great grandfather, he was a sniper for the german army, he killed 36 men. and like you said rob, none of its real, and the people arent real. i also really enjoy the storys written behind all these game, and i like the adrenaline rushes that the almighty multiplayer gives you.
If you enjoy war and killing people so much, why don't you just go join the army? What, are you afraid to risk your life in real life, so you play video games instead?
no, im not interested in joining the army, ive already said, i think what they do is cool, and these games can also help me appreciate what they do over there, and also provide a solid game with endless replayability, and you know what, im just gonna stop replying cause you are really really ignorant. it seem like nintendo pulled their big fat rolls of bills over your eyes and hit you over the head a few times. good day to you sir.
 
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i play because theyre fun, theyre not real, and its just cool for me to be able to be a special ops/marine/ranger. the guns they use are cool, their tactics are cool, the gadgets they have are cool, its just all around cool/fun for me. it also lets me appreciate what these guys actually do in real life. and playing call of duty world at war actually helped me better understand what my grandfather went through as a kid, and even my great grandfather, he was a sniper for the german army, he killed 36 men. and like you said rob, none of its real, and the people arent real. i also really enjoy the storys written behind all these game, and i like the adrenaline rushes that the almighty multiplayer gives you.
If you enjoy war and killing people so much, why don't you just go join the army? What, are you afraid to risk your life in real life, so you play video games instead?
no, im not interested in joining the army, ive already said, i think what they do is cool, and these games can also help me appreciate what they do over there, and also provide a solid game with endless replayability, and you know what, im just gonna stop replying cause you are really really ignorant. it seem like nintendo pulled their big fat rolls of bills over your eyes and hit you over the head a few times. good day to you sir.
No, I'm not the ignorant one, you are. And don't say that you're not interested in the army, because you clearly are, otherwise you wouldn't be playing war games. You just don't want to do it in real life because you could actually die, and you don't come back like you would in a game. War is real, and it's a horrible thing. Making games about it is just wrong. At least in my opinion. But keep on playing whatever you enjoy, I don't care. Just don't bash other games, especially when you don't even give them a chance.
 
Tyeforce said:
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I didn't say that. No, playing shooters doesn't make you a murderer. But the question is, why would anyone want to kill someone at all, be it in real life or virtually?!
Because people are aggressive by nature. There's nothing wrong with that on it's own and it's not just something that goes away, and hey games can actually make you use it in a healthy way.

And you can't compare the humans you kill in games to people in real life, they have no souls, no history, nothing, they're just obstacles you have to overcome in the game, they're just the same thing every game adds in for challenge, just giving them human shapes doesn't make them human.

When it comes down to it, people who play them just like tense situations, fun toys and things to use it on, there's no moral dilemma playing games.

I don't even like FPS's either, they are not my type of game, but to imply that it's morally wrong to play them is just not true. Just because you don't see the value of something doesn't mean nothing but bad things can come of it.
You don't understand. It's the principle of it. No, you're not killing real people, but you're simulating it. And, no, not all people are aggressive by nature. And even if some are, they don't have to simulate killing humans. They could just as well be playing a fighting game like Super Smash Bros. Brawl. There's action and fighting, so it can be a great outlet for your aggression, but without the blood, gore, death, and killing other people.
No I understand exactly what you're saying, in fact I don't like FPS like these much for similar reasons you do, I like bright and colorful games because they stimulate my imagination and the more realistic war games remind me a lot of the grim things of our reality, so I definitely, don't disapprove of you not liking these games, everyone has different tastes.

The only thing I don't agree with is that you have a moral issue with them, but I digress, at the end of the day, either side can't really be proven, so I'll just leave it at that.
 
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If you enjoy war and killing people so much, why don't you just go join the army? What, are you afraid to risk your life in real life, so you play video games instead?
no, im not interested in joining the army, ive already said, i think what they do is cool, and these games can also help me appreciate what they do over there, and also provide a solid game with endless replayability, and you know what, im just gonna stop replying cause you are really really ignorant. it seem like nintendo pulled their big fat rolls of bills over your eyes and hit you over the head a few times. good day to you sir.
No, I'm not the ignorant one, you are. And don't say that you're not interested in the army, because you clearly are, otherwise you wouldn't be playing war games. You just don't want to do it in real life because you could actually die, and you don't come back like you would in a game. War is real, and it's a horrible thing. Making games about it is just wrong. At least in my opinion. But keep on playing whatever you enjoy, I don't care. Just don't bash other games, especially when you don't even give them a chance.
im sorry but i have to reply to this. IM ignorant? you just contradicted yourself, you told me to stop bashing games i dont give a chance, when your talking all kinds of *censored.2.0* about a game you dont even play or have played?? WOW. and yes, war is real, but that doesnt mean you shouldnt try to learn anything about it and pretend it doesnt exist, and like i said before, 2 other times now, playing these games give people understanding of what these guys go through, and what they have to do. and i guess everyone who plays war games is interested in the army? no, thats not that case at all, thats a very dumb statement to make, theres millions of people who play the call of duty franchise, and millions more who play other games like halo and gears of war, theyre not all interested in joining the army, they play for the storys, the insight on what soldiers go through and the fun of playing competitively against theyre friends. plus, im a 17 year old guy, my interests like most others consist of the following.

girls, music, video games, guns, and food.

if you really do think people who play these games are wanting to join the army or should join the army, then yes, you sir, are indeed a very ignorant individual.
 
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no, im not interested in joining the army, ive already said, i think what they do is cool, and these games can also help me appreciate what they do over there, and also provide a solid game with endless replayability, and you know what, im just gonna stop replying cause you are really really ignorant. it seem like nintendo pulled their big fat rolls of bills over your eyes and hit you over the head a few times. good day to you sir.
No, I'm not the ignorant one, you are. And don't say that you're not interested in the army, because you clearly are, otherwise you wouldn't be playing war games. You just don't want to do it in real life because you could actually die, and you don't come back like you would in a game. War is real, and it's a horrible thing. Making games about it is just wrong. At least in my opinion. But keep on playing whatever you enjoy, I don't care. Just don't bash other games, especially when you don't even give them a chance.
im sorry but i have to reply to this. IM ignorant? you just contradicted yourself, you told me to stop bashing games i dont give a chance, when your talking all kinds of *censored.2.0* about a game you dont even play or have played?? WOW. and yes, war is real, but that doesnt mean you shouldnt try to learn anything about it and pretend it doesnt exist, and like i said before, 2 other times now, playing these games give people understanding of what these guys go through, and what they have to do. and i guess everyone who plays war games is interested in the army? no, thats not that case at all, thats a very dumb statement to make, theres millions of people who play the call of duty franchise, and millions more who play other games like halo and gears of war, theyre not all interested in joining the army, they play for the storys, the insight on what soldiers go through and the fun of playing competitively against theyre friends. plus, im a 17 year old guy, my interests like most others consist of the following.

girls, music, video games, guns, and food.


if you really do think people who play these games are wanting to join the army or should join the army, then yes, you sir, are indeed a very ignorant individual.
>Stereotyping

Anyway, I never bashed Call of Duty. I never called it a bad game or anything, I just questioned its morals. No, I don't think that it's something that people should be playing, but I never said anything bad about its gameplay. You, on the other hand, go out and bash every game Nintendo makes, whether you've played it or not.

And, you're right, not everyone who plays Call of Duty is interested in the army. Some just enjoy killing people, which is just wrong. Yes, there are people who just play the game because they enjoy it, but I don't think killing people is something that anyone should be enjoying, be it in real life or virtual. But I can't control what games people play.
 
David said:
congrats on killing another thread tye.
What an intelligent response!

And it's not like it matters if this thread gets killed or not, since you have other ones just like it.
 
Tyeforce said:
David said:
congrats on killing another thread tye.
What an intelligent response!

And it's not like it matters if this thread gets killed or not, since you have other ones just like it.
theres no use in arguing against a 19 year old who blindly defends a kids company even when he knows hes wrong.
 
David said:
congrats on killing another thread tye.
You were as much to blame as anybody. And yet, you cannot just accept someone's opinion or thoughts. To you, in your latest post, they are wrong. Which in itself is wrong, there is no right or wrong way to see/think of anything.
 
AndyB said:
David said:
congrats on killing another thread tye.
You were as much to blame as anybody. And yet, you cannot just accept someone's opinion or thoughts. To you, in your latest post, they are wrong. Which in itself is wrong, there is no right or wrong way to see/think of anything.
i dont care, im not gonna listen to some bull *censored.2.0* from someone who hasnt even touched the damn game. and who doesnt even understand what its about and/or knows what it has to offer. also, i wasnt only referring to him blindly defending nintedo in this thread, he does it in every other thread as well.
 
David said:
Tyeforce said:
David said:
congrats on killing another thread tye.
What an intelligent response!

And it's not like it matters if this thread gets killed or not, since you have other ones just like it.
theres no use in arguing against a 19 year old who blindly defends a kids company even when he knows hes wrong.
How am I wrong when I'm only stating opinions? And Nintendo's not just a "kid's" company. >_>
 
Tyeforce said:
David said:
Tyeforce said:
David said:
congrats on killing another thread tye.
What an intelligent response!

And it's not like it matters if this thread gets killed or not, since you have other ones just like it.
theres no use in arguing against a 19 year old who blindly defends a kids company even when he knows hes wrong.
How am I wrong when I'm only stating opinions? And Nintendo's not just a "kid's" company. >_>
refer to post before yours.
 
David said:
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theres no use in arguing against a 19 year old who blindly defends a kids company even when he knows hes wrong.
How am I wrong when I'm only stating opinions? And Nintendo's not just a "kid's" company. >_>
refer to post before yours.
Refer to what? He's just sharing his opinion, there is no need to get so angry and be an *censored.1.3* to people that don't share the same as you.
 
AndyB said:
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How am I wrong when I'm only stating opinions? And Nintendo's not just a "kid's" company. >_>
refer to post before yours.
Refer to what? He's just sharing his opinion, there is no need to get so angry and be an *censored.1.3* to people that don't share the same as you.
my post about him doing that in every thread not just this one. dur.
 
David said:
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refer to post before yours.
Refer to what? He's just sharing his opinion, there is no need to get so angry and be an *censored.1.3* to people that don't share the same as you.
my post about him doing that in every thread not just this one. dur.
Don't get smart David, it doesn't suit you.
And anyway, maybe it's you that's bringing it out. With your own bull*censored.2.0* fanboy-ism.
 
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Refer to what? He's just sharing his opinion, there is no need to get so angry and be an *censored.1.3* to people that don't share the same as you.
my post about him doing that in every thread not just this one. dur.
Don't get smart David, it doesn't suit you.
And anyway, maybe it's you that's bringing it out. With your own bull*censored.2.0* fanboy-ism.
i dont consider myself a fanboy as i play just about everything, sure i like call of duty, but its still pretty broken, and it needs some fixing still, i dont bow down to it as the greatest game ever. and no im not an xbox fanboy, i enjoy all the systems, ps3, xbox and one or two wii games, (zelda and smg). i like xbox and ps3 equally. wii on the other hand, lets not go back there.
 
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