Because it's showcasing Nintendo's greed.Tyeforce said:I don't understand what people's problem is with this. Why shouldn't Nintendo make games that actually make use of the DSi's cameras? >_>
Um...how? There's nothing greedy about it. By that logic, you're saying that any product that any company ever made is just showcasing their greed. No, it's never about innovation and making better products. It's always about greed. >_>nephewjack said:Because it's showcasing Nintendo's greed.Tyeforce said:I don't understand what people's problem is with this. Why shouldn't Nintendo make games that actually make use of the DSi's cameras? >_>
Sony: Make PSP. Make new PSP, but games for new PSP can still be played on old PSP. No one has to buy a new PSP.Tyeforce said:Um...how? There's nothing greedy about it. By that logic, you're saying that any product that any company ever made is just showcasing their greed. No, it's never about innovation and making better products. It's always about greed. >_>nephewjack said:Because it's showcasing Nintendo's greed.Tyeforce said:I don't understand what people's problem is with this. Why shouldn't Nintendo make games that actually make use of the DSi's cameras? >_>
It is when you slap on a camera and sell it for $50 more than the normal DS to sucker kids you know will buy it.Tyeforce said:Um...how? There's nothing greedy about it. By that logic, you're saying that any product that any company ever made is just showcasing their greed. No, it's never about innovation and making better products. It's always about greed. >_>nephewjack said:Because it's showcasing Nintendo's greed.Tyeforce said:I don't understand what people's problem is with this. Why shouldn't Nintendo make games that actually make use of the DSi's cameras? >_>
Would that make the Gameboy Advance greedy?nephewjack said:Sony: Make PSP. Make new PSP, but games for new PSP can still be played on old PSP. No one has to buy a new PSP.Tyeforce said:Um...how? There's nothing greedy about it. By that logic, you're saying that any product that any company ever made is just showcasing their greed. No, it's never about innovation and making better products. It's always about greed. >_>nephewjack said:Because it's showcasing Nintendo's greed.Tyeforce said:I don't understand what people's problem is with this. Why shouldn't Nintendo make games that actually make use of the DSi's cameras? >_>
Nintendo: Make DS. Make DSi, and new games being made can only be played on DSi, effectively making everyone that wants to play a new game buy a new DS.
That sound greedy to you?
They would make it playable on DS and DS Lite if it was possible. But because the DS and DS Lite lack cameras, it's not. There comes a time when you have to buy a new console if you want to play new games. You can't play Wii games on a GameCube, can you? No. So why isn't anyone complaining about that? Everyone's complaining about the DSi for the stupidest reasons. Nintendo isn't going to stand still just because some people don't want to buy newer game systems. You either move on or get left behind. It happens with virtually every electronic product. Get used to it.nephewjack said:Sony: Make PSP. Make new PSP, but games for new PSP can still be played on old PSP. No one has to buy a new PSP.Tyeforce said:Um...how? There's nothing greedy about it. By that logic, you're saying that any product that any company ever made is just showcasing their greed. No, it's never about innovation and making better products. It's always about greed. >_>nephewjack said:Because it's showcasing Nintendo's greed.Tyeforce said:I don't understand what people's problem is with this. Why shouldn't Nintendo make games that actually make use of the DSi's cameras? >_>
Nintendo: Make DS. Make DSi, and new games being made can only be played on DSi, effectively making everyone that wants to play a new game buy a new DS.
That sound greedy to you?
But the DSi isn't a new product. They just tacked a camera onto the DS. Call me back when they update the graphics from 2005.Tyeforce said:They would make it playable on DS and DS Lite if it was possible. But because the DS and DS Lite lack cameras, it's not. There comes a time when you have to buy a new console if you want to play new games. You can't play Wii games on a GameCube, can you? No. So why isn't anyone complaining about that? Everyone's complaining about the DSi for the stupidest reasons. Nintendo isn't going to stand still just because some people don't want to buy newer game systems. You either move on or get left behind. It happens with virtually every electronic product. Get used to it.nephewjack said:Sony: Make PSP. Make new PSP, but games for new PSP can still be played on old PSP. No one has to buy a new PSP.Tyeforce said:Um...how? There's nothing greedy about it. By that logic, you're saying that any product that any company ever made is just showcasing their greed. No, it's never about innovation and making better products. It's always about greed. >_>nephewjack said:Because it's showcasing Nintendo's greed.Tyeforce said:I don't understand what people's problem is with this. Why shouldn't Nintendo make games that actually make use of the DSi's cameras? >_>
Nintendo: Make DS. Make DSi, and new games being made can only be played on DSi, effectively making everyone that wants to play a new game buy a new DS.
That sound greedy to you?
But slapping one new feature on a product, calling it "new" and charging $50 more for a product isn't exactly progress. That's called greed. When there is no significant upgrade besides a camera for gameplay, I don't believe Nintendo is trying to forge a path, they just want the money.Tyeforce said:They would make it playable on DS and DS Lite if it was possible. But because the DS and DS Lite lack cameras, it's not. There comes a time when you have to buy a new console if you want to play new games. You can't play Wii games on a GameCube, can you? No. So why isn't anyone complaining about that? Everyone's complaining about the DSi for the stupidest reasons. Nintendo isn't going to stand still just because some people don't want to buy newer game systems. You either move on or get left behind. It happens with virtually every electronic product. Get used to it.nephewjack said:Sony: Make PSP. Make new PSP, but games for new PSP can still be played on old PSP. No one has to buy a new PSP.Tyeforce said:Um...how? There's nothing greedy about it. By that logic, you're saying that any product that any company ever made is just showcasing their greed. No, it's never about innovation and making better products. It's always about greed. >_>nephewjack said:Because it's showcasing Nintendo's greed.Tyeforce said:I don't understand what people's problem is with this. Why shouldn't Nintendo make games that actually make use of the DSi's cameras? >_>
Nintendo: Make DS. Make DSi, and new games being made can only be played on DSi, effectively making everyone that wants to play a new game buy a new DS.
That sound greedy to you?
They didn't make SP exclusive games to make consumers buy an SP to get new games.Tyeforce said:The DSi is much more than a DS with two camera's "slapped on". What you can do with DSi Camera is amazing. And there's DSiWare, the ability to play music and record sound, bigger, brighter screens, better sound, a web browser, and more. It's kinda like the upgrade from GBA to GBA SP, except a lot more additions. No one complained about the GBA SP, so why are you complaining about the DSi?
Because, IMO, with my hands, the SP is the most painful handheld ever.My thumbs were literally half an inch to an inch apart from each other.Tyeforce said:The DSi is much more than a DS with two camera's "slapped on". What you can do with DSi Camera is amazing. And there's DSiWare, the ability to play music and record sound, bigger, brighter screens, better sound, a web browser, and more. It's kinda like the upgrade from GBA to GBA SP, except a lot more additions. No one complained about the GBA SP, so why are you complaining about the DSi?
No, but what about when they made the DS? If you wanted to play a DS game, you had to buy a DS, because the GBA obviously wasn't touch-sensitive, had two screens and a microphone, among other changes. If you want to play a game that uses cameras, then you have to buy a DSi. Nintendo can't magically update your DSi so it has cameras and everything else the DSi has. If you want to play DSi games so bad, then get a DSi. You won't regret it, it's awesome.nephewjack said:They didn't make SP exclusive games to make consumers buy an SP to get new games.Tyeforce said:The DSi is much more than a DS with two camera's "slapped on". What you can do with DSi Camera is amazing. And there's DSiWare, the ability to play music and record sound, bigger, brighter screens, better sound, a web browser, and more. It's kinda like the upgrade from GBA to GBA SP, except a lot more additions. No one complained about the GBA SP, so why are you complaining about the DSi?
My pont exactly. The DS was a huge leap forward for gameplay and in some cases, graphics. The DSi has cameras, minigames and internet. Oh wow. Who doesn't have internet? I'll admit, the minigames is a nice touch, but it's not worth a whole new system to have cameras and minigames.Tyeforce said:No, but what about when they made the DS? If you wanted to play a DS game, you had to buy a DS, because the GBA obviously wasn't touch-sensitive, had two screens and a microphone, among other changes. If you want to play a game that uses cameras, then you have to buy a DSi. Nintendo can't magically update your DSi so it has cameras and everything else the DSi has. If you want to play DSi games so bad, then get a DSi. You won't regret it, it's awesome.nephewjack said:They didn't make SP exclusive games to make consumers buy an SP to get new games.Tyeforce said:The DSi is much more than a DS with two camera's "slapped on". What you can do with DSi Camera is amazing. And there's DSiWare, the ability to play music and record sound, bigger, brighter screens, better sound, a web browser, and more. It's kinda like the upgrade from GBA to GBA SP, except a lot more additions. No one complained about the GBA SP, so why are you complaining about the DSi?
If you think it's not worth it, then why are you even complaining? And DSiWare is more than just minigames. Sure, a lot of them are just small bits of games, but there are some really good full-length games, like Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again! and Flipnote Studio. Honestly, I love my DSi. Much more than my DS Lite. I don't understand why so many people hate the idea of it. It was never meant to be a DS2. It's merely an upgrade to the DS, but more so than the DS Lite was to the original DS. It's kinda like the Game Boy and Game Boy Color. They play the same games and have the same resolution, but you can only play color games on the Game Boy Color. The same is true for the DSi. If you want to play games with the DSi's cameras, you're gonna need a DSi.nephewjack said:My pont exactly. The DS was a huge leap forward for gameplay and in some cases, graphics. The DSi has cameras, minigames and internet. Oh wow. Who doesn't have internet? I'll admit, the minigames is a nice touch, but it's not worth a whole new system to have cameras and minigames.Tyeforce said:No, but what about when they made the DS? If you wanted to play a DS game, you had to buy a DS, because the GBA obviously wasn't touch-sensitive, had two screens and a microphone, among other changes. If you want to play a game that uses cameras, then you have to buy a DSi. Nintendo can't magically update your DSi so it has cameras and everything else the DSi has. If you want to play DSi games so bad, then get a DSi. You won't regret it, it's awesome.nephewjack said:They didn't make SP exclusive games to make consumers buy an SP to get new games.Tyeforce said:The DSi is much more than a DS with two camera's "slapped on". What you can do with DSi Camera is amazing. And there's DSiWare, the ability to play music and record sound, bigger, brighter screens, better sound, a web browser, and more. It's kinda like the upgrade from GBA to GBA SP, except a lot more additions. No one complained about the GBA SP, so why are you complaining about the DSi?
First off: Just because something with downloadable content can't play old games, means that it cannot possibly have anything good on it at all?Megamannt125 said:Tye, DSiware isn't worth it unless they have a virtual console for gameboy, gameboy color, and gameboy advance games, the DSi was probably meant to be the next generation of DS sort of like how they leaped from Gameboy to Gameboy Advance, but the DSi has nothing really changed to it, the Gameboy Advance had superior graphics and memory to the gameboy color and gameboy, the DSi is nothing special at all, I can take pictures with my camera anytime I want, and better quality ones at that. The only reason you won't accept that and keep defending what can't be defended, is because your a blind Nintendo fanboy that will accept anything that Nintendo shoves down the consumer's throats.
Considering there's not many good wiiware games, I don't think there'd be many good DSiware games either.Shadow Jolteon said:First off: Just because something with downloadable content can't play old games, means that it cannot possibly have anything good on it at all?Megamannt125 said:Tye, DSiware isn't worth it unless they have a virtual console for gameboy, gameboy color, and gameboy advance games, the DSi was probably meant to be the next generation of DS sort of like how they leaped from Gameboy to Gameboy Advance, but the DSi has nothing really changed to it, the Gameboy Advance had superior graphics and memory to the gameboy color and gameboy, the DSi is nothing special at all, I can take pictures with my camera anytime I want, and better quality ones at that. The only reason you won't accept that and keep defending what can't be defended, is because your a blind Nintendo fanboy that will accept anything that Nintendo shoves down the consumer's throats.
Other than the cameras, there's also the SD card slot, upgraded processor (from the lite's 67MHz processor to the DSi's 133MHz processor, four times the RAM (16 Megabytes), and internal flash memory of 256 Megabytes.
So, as you can see, there is more updated in it than simply the two cameras. And, yeah, the memory is updated, too. =p