Dreamies, Tiers, and the Flawed concepts that have arisen in AC:NL

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This may be a little long winded, but ever since I have joined The Bell Tree (which has been a great experience overall), I've noticed some things that have been weighing on my mind.
First and foremost, I would like to say that there is really no "wrong" way of playing Animal Crossing. There technically is no "cheating" -- not even hacking is necessarily cheating. Time traveling, plot resetting, and trading villagers are all built into the game. But, with that being said, a certain type of elitism has arisen that really bugs me. Getting all of the villagers you want is great! But where's the fun in that? Where's the fun in shelling out 20 million bells for a villager?
The ranking and bandwagon concepts that exist, not just on The Bell Tree, but also sites like Tumblr and Reddit (which also have different villager popularity standards from The Bell Tree), have essentially created internet hiveminds on what villagers are worthy and which ones are not. I've recently spent a lot of time browsing the Villager Trading Plaza threads and have grown to seriously hating "autovoiding." In fact, a lot of my (so-called) dreamies would probably be autovoided villagers. So the villager market that exists on the internet simply dismisses 50-60% of the villagers because they are not "tier 1" or "tier 2" villagers. In fact, I hate visiting dream towns that are all Julian, Marshal, Stitches, Lolly, Rosie, Beau, Diana, Fang, Marina, and Zucker and I also dislike most of those villagers.
I want to encourage EVERYONE to give up the dreamie stance on playing and start looking into loving every villager that comes to your town. Not that you have to like every villager, but you would be surprised at the ones you come to love. For example, I love unpopular villagers like Merry, Broccolo, Cousteau, Vladimir, Naomi, and Alli. But, it's very hard to find this villagers because people just shoo them out of their towns before even getting to know them. It's sad to see this happen to so many excellent villagers.
I've reset my town twice now, and I have to say I regret the first reset, but not the second one (which happened back at the beginning of this month). In my very first town, I had villagers like Julian, Marshal, Ankha, and several other pretty popular villagers. I grew to love some of them, but I also found the great disappointment that came with some of these villagers. I've never paid for a villager, but I did win Julian in a raffle. When I came to pick him up, I was ecstatic because "wow! what a cool and popular villager! He's hard to come by and I got him for free!" But the longer I had him, the more disappointed I was with him. I grew to love the widely obscure blue snooty cow Naomi, but I grew to dislike the unbelievably popular Julian. This is because Naomi was a unique villager that you don't see a lot, and surprising gem. The more I knew her, the more I loved her.
This second time that I have reset, I'm focusing on getting to know ALL of my villagers. And sure, I've found that I don't really like Curlos or Frobert, and I'll let them leave when they ask, but I also will find surprisingly great villagers like Tammi and Tia.
So, please: try to change the way you look at the game and at villager popularity tiers. They're just bourgeoisie ways of making the game about popularity and elitism.
:):D

Thoughts? Comments? Disagreements?
 
I don't have a dreamie list, only villagers that I really like. Fang is a must-have for me, but that is because in my first town ever, Fang randomly moved unto my only perfect peach sapling. Right behind my house. Believe me, I hated him. And he was so grumpy! Arggh!
But once he stayed longer, the friendship built up and we became best friends.
It was only like a halfyear after that that I even discovered the Bell Tree forum.

For two times now, I have Ankha as a original villager. But I don't like her. We don't click. She is quite unique in design and house, but no she just is not meant for me.

I just go with what I like! The tiers don't matter to me.
 
Well - when it comes down to it, all of the villagers who are of the same personality type will in general, act the same way. The only real difference between a popular lazy villager and an unpopular lazy villager is their appearance, and I guess that some people have a preference for villagers that look a certain way.

The tiers are ultimately constructed by the users but at the same time - users also assist in maintaining the tiers to some extent. There will be users who like popular villagers because they genuinely like the way they look while there will be other people who like popular villagers because they're popular. Ultimately, it's everyone's individual preference on how they play their game and who they choose for their towns.

Personally, I'm not a fan of most of the tier 1 and tier 2 villagers. They're all cute but cute isn't really my style. That said - I'm a huge fan of most of the cat villagers and made my town have 9/10 villagers be cats and Alfonso (the lazy alligator) who is tier 5, is my tenth villager. It's sad to see some villagers that I like be on the lower tiers - such as Stinky - since they get considered far less frequently than the popular villagers. At the same time - you get the benefit of having a more unique town too :P.
 
I don't have a dreamie list, only villagers that I really like. Fang is a must-have for me, but that is because in my first town ever, Fang randomly moved unto my only perfect peach sapling. Right behind my house. Believe me, I hated him. And he was so grumpy! Arggh!
But once he stayed longer, the friendship built up and we became best friends.
It was only like a halfyear after that that I even discovered the Bell Tree forum.

For two times now, I have Ankha as a original villager. But I don't like her. We don't click. She is quite unique in design and house, but no she just is not meant for me.

I just go with what I like! The tiers don't matter to me.

I agree! For me, I have to have Merry in my town because she's been my best animal crossing friend since 2010. so if I had a dreamie, it would be her.
 
I think having dreamies is ok. I have my own and they're strewn throughout the tiers. But I also think people should try to enjoy the villagers they get along the way too.

Like I love my village now but I'll never forget villagers like Celia and Puddles who were not only some of my best friends but stuck with me through Loki's infancy.

The tiers mostly exist as a price guide. There is an economy in the AC world and obviously some people will take advantage of it. As you said, there's no wrong way to play.

I think most people with the tier 1's do genuinely love them. That's why they're so sought after. It is unoriginal true, but it's also our own individual game and we like who we like. I'd like my little Rosie the same if she was a tier 5.

I do agree with auto voiding, but most cyclers will be really kind in holding tier 5's for those who desire them. Cou did that for me with Puck and I was just so happy to finally get it. It was a hunt! I had lurked so many threads.

But yea. I do have a certain dislike for auto voids, even though I do understand the reasons behind it.
 
But I don't mind people who have dreamie list and people who sell and buy villagers.

Because for me, I for 'what I like'. But Fang is tier 1, and that is just because for a lot of people he is 'what they like'.
I see the Tier list more as a window to show what most people like.
It can't be helped, popular villagers are just popular. My sister has mostly deer and wolves in her town, whom are high Tiers, but she got them just because she likes the species and their designs. She has Winnie the horse because she likes her. She got Diana the deer because she likes her.

If people are happy to sell and buy villagers, I think it's great! Both sides get happy from the trade!
It is logical for the less popular villagers to be (auto)voided, because there just are less people who want to pick them up. Cyclers could sometimes hold them for days before someone comes along who wants it.
So yeah, I really don't mind the whole dreamie, tier and trading villagers.
 
I mean, my Julian is an example of the very thing you want me to do--he showed up in my campsite in my first town, and I fell in love. Should I not have wanted him back when I reset? Most of my villagers are ones that I adore myself, not based on popularity here, or part of my theme: Tia is a teapot. What else do you expect to find in a Sherlock-themed town? And Drago, being a dragon, is an oblique reference, so he's my one lazy as I hate the personality otherwise. I also keep space available to constantly move through villagers in Baker, because I like variety. I'm still not giving up my favourites, and because the terminology for those favourites is dreamies...that's what they are to me.

I don't think it's necessarily flawed to rank villagers; without the ranking (incidentally, because of the human knack for pattern-finding and categorising, that is just a thing that is to be expected), it could be harder to determine what villagers are best for me to spend time running a giveaway. Similarly, autovoiding may be contrary to the spirit of the game, but it's also necessary--we all have limits on our time, and there's only so much time one can spend cycling before they have to move on, sad as it might be for the villagers that get pushed out. Am I supposed to wait weeks for a claimant for one particular villager when I don't have infinite time with wi-fi, as my campus network won't work for the 3DS? No. That's absurd. It's not about popularity or elitism--or at least, not entirely. And popularity itself can only be described as a measurement, not a concrete abstract. I think I could only value that argument if I saw a major trend of "lol I have Marshal he's so much better than your stupid Tipper your town sucks because it doesn't have Marshal"...and eh, that doesn't appear to be a thing. In fact, there's still a lot of appreciation for those "unpopular" villagers, and comments on them.

There's also the machinist argument of "they're all pixels with dialogue options; trading them is like trading closets".

All that said, Wart Jr is still an awful villager. He killed some of my blue roses and my carnations and he wrecked my path for a while. >> Ruuuuude.
 
It is always important to remember that "Variety is like a pinch of cumin in the simmering soup pot of life!"

Mitzi used to say that all of the time back in ACWW. Of course, when I played that game, I ignored that advice. I ended up cycling through all of the villagers so that I could lock in the most popular villagers that I thought looked the best. Eventually, I grew bored of talking to the same villagers all of the time.

This time, in my ACNL town, I am taking it easy. I am not going to force my villagers to stay forever.
 
I agree with this post to an extent. I don't get how people just decide on villagers they must have and keep that up until they get them all. My list of dreamies is constantly changing and is decided by 3 things.
1) I want to have at least one of each personality in my town for the sake of diversity and of course unlocking PWPs
2) Do they fit my theme? I'm restarting my town soon to have a sorta natural, cherry blossom pink and pastel blue themed Japanese, cute kinda town. (also in case you think i'm being stereotypical and racist, i'm half Japanese. oh wait it's still stereotypical and racist? oh.... Back on topic!)
3) have I met them and liked them? i'd never buy a villager I've never met. 'tis not my style
I hate autovoiding too. I get that most cycling towns are made to mainly cater for the majorities dreamies but still. I cri

However..

I think the tiers are accurate enough and should be kept. They are there to ensure that pricing is fair and are a good trading guide so people know what response to expect when selling villagers. I also think that many tier one/two villagers are there for a reason. Supply and demand my friend. And most people like them not "because they are popular" but for reasons like:
They fit a theme
They like the villager design/house design
They find the villager's personality likeable
More personal reasons eg. they were in an old town etc

I for one love stitches. He won't really fit the theme for my next town but I want him there anyway ;)
He was in my ACCF (lets go to the city in the EU. thanks Nintendo) town and I just adored him beyond measure. When I signed up for this forum less than a week ago I didn't think he would really be popular as his design and house I thought would be seen garish- like pietro. And I love merengue because i'm a sucker for the normal personality and her house is OP and her design just so damn cute and creative just <3
But yea. I've come to love so many of the less popular villagers. Friga was in my ACWW town and she's one of the few snooty villagers I love. Maybe it's just me being all nostalgic but she's a fave. Also I love the penguins THEY SO CUTE AND SMALL AHH I WANNA HUG ONE!!!

*ahem*
but yeah I see where you're coming from and agree that it's sad that people don't give villagers a chance and just decide "i want him him and her and gonna get rid of this one as soon as they arrive"
however I am also a supporter of the tier system and can honestly see why so many of the upper tier villagers are so popular

speech over

*closes book, removes glasses and fades into darkness*
 
I like to think I have a decent mix of villagers from all tiers and while I do dislike the tier system, I understand it's reason for existence.

It does make it difficult to find villagers in a lower tier, though. This is why I doubt I'll ever get Gaston unless by some miracle he winds up in my campsite.

The most popular villager I have is Stitches and Lolly. Stitches I've loved since I first played WW and Lolly is my final remaining starting villager in my main town. So it's mostly my sentiment that's keeping her.
 
I mean, your points are valid, but then doesn't it just go back to how people should play the game the way they want to? To be fair, I played the game alone for a number of months (no experience, no google, no multiplayer) before I decided to reset for villagers (villager reseting, not plot reseting), and the only high tier villager I got as a random move-in was Erik, before I even knew villagers were ranked by popularity online.

I ended up not really liking most of the lower tier villagers that had a brief stint in my town (Graham, Hugh, Hans, Cheri, Peck, Gwen, etc), even after getting to know them for a while, simply because I wanted to befriend them to get them to move, and I wanted, I guess, cuter villagers. Then I found this website, the whole tier system, and looked into villagers more. I don't really understand why people have such disdain towards tier 1 and 2 villagers, because I think a lot of them are really cute, and apparently they offer something that a lot of players seem to look for. I like the tiers, even if they aren't 100% representative because they provide a guideline.

Autovoiding also isn't THAT terrible. I mean, even if cyclers/traders didn't autovoid, I'm not sure there'd be enough demand for those villagers to be worth the time they'd spend to get them into a nice home. Plus, the player could always request that the villager not be autovoided. I've seen that happen many times. There is a flaw with the tier system because some (though I think a very little amount of) people might be encouraged to obtain villagers solely due to their popularity. But again, I don't think that's the case most of the time. But tbh, it's a game. Play it how you want to.
 
The main reason I had any "dreamies" to begin with is due to having a themed town, plus Whitney because I really wanted a wolf and she seemed best. The only wolf that ever appeared in my campsite was Wolfgang and he just had to appear when I was at ten villagers. The only way I could get a wolf in my town was to spend a few million bells. It wasn't about popularity or elitism, it's just that wolves have always been my favorite animals since I was little and I wanted at least one in my town. I already had too many cranky and smug villagers so pretty much all the male wolves were redundant and of the three female wolves Whitney looked best to me.

People choose dream villagers for their own reasons. I don't think most people go for popular for the sake of popular and nothing else, or at the very least I haven't seen anyone act "elite" because they have a high tier villager. That would be more amusing than annoying really, can you imagine someone being all "Look at how awesome I am at this game about catching bugs and talking to animals. You can tell I have skills because I have a unicorn in my town, an original unicorn, with his normal furniture and everything, you jelly?"
 
This may be a little long winded, but ever since I have joined The Bell Tree (which has been a great experience overall), I've noticed some things that have been weighing on my mind.
First and foremost, I would like to say that there is really no "wrong" way of playing Animal Crossing. There technically is no "cheating" -- not even hacking is necessarily cheating. Time traveling, plot resetting, and trading villagers are all built into the game. But, with that being said, a certain type of elitism has arisen that really bugs me. Getting all of the villagers you want is great! But where's the fun in that? Where's the fun in shelling out 20 million bells for a villager?
The ranking and bandwagon concepts that exist, not just on The Bell Tree, but also sites like Tumblr and Reddit (which also have different villager popularity standards from The Bell Tree), have essentially created internet hiveminds on what villagers are worthy and which ones are not. I've recently spent a lot of time browsing the Villager Trading Plaza threads and have grown to seriously hating "autovoiding." In fact, a lot of my (so-called) dreamies would probably be autovoided villagers. So the villager market that exists on the internet simply dismisses 50-60% of the villagers because they are not "tier 1" or "tier 2" villagers. In fact, I hate visiting dream towns that are all Julian, Marshal, Stitches, Lolly, Rosie, Beau, Diana, Fang, Marina, and Zucker and I also dislike most of those villagers.
I want to encourage EVERYONE to give up the dreamie stance on playing and start looking into loving every villager that comes to your town. Not that you have to like every villager, but you would be surprised at the ones you come to love. For example, I love unpopular villagers like Merry, Broccolo, Cousteau, Vladimir, Naomi, and Alli. But, it's very hard to find this villagers because people just shoo them out of their towns before even getting to know them. It's sad to see this happen to so many excellent villagers.
I've reset my town twice now, and I have to say I regret the first reset, but not the second one (which happened back at the beginning of this month). In my very first town, I had villagers like Julian, Marshal, Ankha, and several other pretty popular villagers. I grew to love some of them, but I also found the great disappointment that came with some of these villagers. I've never paid for a villager, but I did win Julian in a raffle. When I came to pick him up, I was ecstatic because "wow! what a cool and popular villager! He's hard to come by and I got him for free!" But the longer I had him, the more disappointed I was with him. I grew to love the widely obscure blue snooty cow Naomi, but I grew to dislike the unbelievably popular Julian. This is because Naomi was a unique villager that you don't see a lot, and surprising gem. The more I knew her, the more I loved her.
This second time that I have reset, I'm focusing on getting to know ALL of my villagers. And sure, I've found that I don't really like Curlos or Frobert, and I'll let them leave when they ask, but I also will find surprisingly great villagers like Tammi and Tia.
So, please: try to change the way you look at the game and at villager popularity tiers. They're just bourgeoisie ways of making the game about popularity and elitism.
:):D

Thoughts? Comments? Disagreements?

You've made some excellent points. And what you wrote, in total, is insightful.

I have four game copies of "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" covering three active towns?Applewin; ACNLpics; and Foster?and the last copy is loosely used for cycling and/or developing hybrids.

Two previous towns I had?Progress (mayor was Cameron) and Temps (mayor was Alicia)?had numerous Dreamies. I reset those towns because they were limiting. I ended up transferring some villagers to my active towns.

I joined this site in November 2013. I didn't first take notice of Bell Tree Forums member Hound00med's thread until around January 2014. I was intrigued. So, I went after some particular villagers. Julian was my first. And then I got some other villagers from auctions. Eventually, with the gradual buying of additional game cartridges, I no longer needed to participate in Villager Trading Plaza.

What I find works best for me, personally, is having each town have a good combination of villagers who seem to blend well with a town. I like to have some of them be Dreamies?typically no more than four (of ten)?who have been genuinely popular at this site; but, not for the sake of getting them; but, because I truly appreciate them. (My favorite overall: Stitches.) It is more interesting to me to come across towns where not all villagers are Tier One. I like coming across some underrated gems, and I've taken to having gradually added them to my active towns. (I am truly glad that I have Hamlet in Applewin; Eugene in ACNLpics; and Muffy in Foster. That's to name one for each of my three active towns. They are all wonderful creations!)

Much of "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" is what you make of it. If you're at it for quite a while (for me, it will be two years come August 17)?you look at your experience a bit differently. My best decision overall: keeping Applewin. I've been playing it since August 17, 2013. And I have three villagers still present who were there on Day #01: Jambette, Scoot, and Twiggy. This has established a long-term bond. That makes it feel personal.

I am feeling like there's next to nothing meaningful I can creatively do with any of these towns (with exception of Foster; because that town needs some more black hybrids. I even have Mayor Allie mention it with her greeting in the most recently updated Dream). So, my thoughts lately are in asking myself, "How much longer will actually play 'Animal Crossing: New Leaf'?" I don't know.
 
I LOVE unpopular villagers, I have a mix of popular and unpopular but I have to say that Tabby is currently my favorite animal right now because she looks like how tabby/ally cats look. But like then you talk to her and shes a peppy and all and her house is super pretty so I ended up loving her c: But to agree, seeing the same villagers in every town looks a bit plain and boring imo. Maybe some people should try and get a town with villagers that look ugly or have a certain theme to them. it would be a cute idea if you get over some bad flaws.
 
I have dreamies. However they are almost all Tier 5. I love Poppy because she is so cute, and she is Tier 2. I agree with
you that towns with all Tier 1 villagers should give lower tiers a chance. My dreamies are always changing and I consider every single villager, regardless of what tier they are in.

The tiers are just price reference. It's only really a fact apart from that. Most higher tier villagers are worthy of their tier.
A few are not. For instance, I discovered someone on the forums has Beau as a dreamie just because he's a deer.
Really. But to be fair we, TBT, choose the TBT popularity list as a community, and I know lots of people think the same
as you. They all get a say. Who knows, maybe the tiers will have completely swapped around!

Autovoid is a very unfair thing. It should be stopped. I mean, more people have at least one tier 5 dreamie, and autovoid just makes it harder for everyone to obtain dreamies.
 
this is like that thread that got taken down a few days ago called "abolish tiers" but i think that the difference is that the OP was very thoughtful with their post and the people coming to the thread and posting are actually considering the topic intelligently. I thought the other thread was interesting but it got very out of hand very quickly. i'm glad this thread popped up though as it's a relevant and interesting topic
 
I didn't even notice that tiers were a thing until recently and I don't care either way. There are villagers I like that are commonly well-liked and villagers I like that are uncommonly liked. Tiers and ratings will always be in place if there's something you can apply a rating or tier to. If there's a new cool toy on the block that fits a fad that kids are into for example -- everyone is probably going to want it. Both for standards and even to their own amusement/liking.

Anyway, I don't have a strong opinion on the matter. People are free to do as they please and get villagers they like. Elitism can get pretty scary, though.
 
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You have some popular villagers in your town right now xD

I myself have loveloveloved Melba, Gayle and Walker despite being 'tier 5' since they are super adorable cx
However I think people are allowed to like whom they like. Tier ones are really based off their looks, as they are seen as more visually nice to be around. I'm like that too LOL I love cute villagers! Merengue is the whole reason I got into AC:NL I think she's adorable AND pink is my favorite color! Naomi scares me honestly :c
I'm too tired to write a lengthy post, the only thing I find wrong with tiers are the pricing ; v ;
 
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