Mafia DA:I Mafia

[oath2order]

Like I said before, the only way people can crusade against me right now is to disenfranchise my scumhunting by bringing up the possibility that I'm just using it to try and get townread. And here you go doing it. And that's 3 people taking that stance already even though making a decision to lynch me would require more revelations and interpersonal alignments in the thread becoming more apparent. Doubting me is alright, but when doubting me is all you're doing while ignoring a lot of the other things that are going on in the game, then it's weak stance taking.

btw Daniel I actually wanted to let up on you now that I'm getting information from our feud, but you saying 'oh wait yeah I realize Tom was joking actually' seems like backpedaling. There was no indication that you read Tom as joking before people criticized you for agreeing with him, so I can't bring myself to let up my suspicions about you. Got some matching behavior with your last game though.

I'm kind of unsure about how Ender is lowkey tunneling Trojan although he is indeed bringing up points. Mostly unsure because in past games he's always been the one to be taking note of everyone who has said something and not just one or two people. I'll give that time I guess.

Also I accused Daniel of being hesitant with his style yesterday but now that the day has had time to develop, the one who is still reading as the most hesitant is Panda. Only thought of hers that she's truly brought up in regards to how she's currently viewing other players is that 'Dad seems like he's bullying'.

Also Rune you know Trojan's behavior well or something? You said that since Endless wasn't in this game that you'll just mess with Trojan. What kind of reaction were you looking for there?

notice me senpai

Your points on Daniel are good. Him backpedaling, along with his very defensive reaction to the idea that Trojan and Slammint had the potential to be modkilled (quoting for reference)...

As stated before pusheen the cat is Trojan and runes real life friend so they will be playing. And slammint can come back on Thursday without posting too. Just because someone hasn't posted yet does not mean they will be modkilled, it's only day one and they can miss one lynching.

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Last game, a few members didn't post until a couple of days later and still made it through until we decided to lynch them. You only get modkilled for breaking a rule.

...leads me to believe that he's scum.

He had an exchange with TheAhPoCawdOh about who he (Daniel) thought was suspicious, and just piggy-backed on the suspicion for Dad without giving any reason other than "what Tom said". I'm likely to vote for Daniel.

On another note, Tom and Dad are both fairly experienced mafia players. It would honestly not surprise me if the two of them were mafia goons or a useless mafia role like a framer and were bussing each other (bussing is a term that means two members of mafia pushing each other for lynch, in the hopes that when one does get lynched, the other appears more like town)

 

[Damniel]

That's fine ender, I've been going through a rough patch too. But can you say why your choosing to lynch Trojan?

 

[N e s s]

I disagree with trojan, he seems to have not said anything scummy. Although rune voted him in the beginning as a joke, I'm curious about rune though.

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notice me senpai

Your points on Daniel are good. Him backpedaling, along with his very defensive reaction to the idea that Trojan and Slammint had the potential to be modkilled (quoting for reference)...



...leads me to believe that he's scum.

He had an exchange with TheAhPoCawdOh about who he (Daniel) thought was suspicious, and just piggy-backed on the suspicion for Dad without giving any reason other than "what Tom said". I'm likely to vote for Daniel.

On another note, Tom and Dad are both fairly experienced mafia players. It would honestly not surprise me if the two of them were mafia goons or a useless mafia role like a framer and were bussing each other (bussing is a term that means two members of mafia pushing each other for lynch, in the hopes that when one does get lynched, the other appears more like town)

when i Said I had suspicions about dad I was actually testing Daniel to see how he would react, if he agreed,I would have put my vote in him. I took back voting dad for no reason in an earlier post, but I made an excuse than to try and toss it aside. but Daniel didn't react to my fake dad suspicion, so I think I'll put my vote aside for now. I don't say the real reason why back than was to see if he would react than.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Undertale.

Like, the entire joke that Sarasa and I are throwing around is that the character in Sarasa's Avi likes to make bone/skeleton jokes. XD

He's the best thing 2k15, and nothing can stop me from thinking that. C: Too bad I'll never live up to his pun mastery.

Panda, huh. I guess I'll go look back at her once Im at my computer - never really noticed them (then again I suppose that's a bad thing in of itself). As for Daniel/Trojan, I feel like Daniel commits a sin of being wayy too wishywashy in his stances and Trojan for just downright confusing in his replies and he apparently can't use logic. I'm still trying to get a grasp of how much it's due to being new and how much its due to scummy intent though (cause I'll be damned if a repeat of last game happens).

@Daniel/Trojan: If you could choose two people you think are town right now, who, and why?

@Dad I believe Rune mentioned knowing Trojan and Pushern irl, and wanted to mess with them or something like that.

 

[Damniel]

For town?
Probably
Rune and pushee the cat, they seem to be just fooling around right now and I don't have any scum reads on them.

And probably your town too, no reads off of you yet.

And I don't understand what you mean by you were trying to trick me? I found it weird why you out of no where asked me who I thought was scum, but I answered Dad because I didn't have much to go on, the fact that your saying that you were trying to trick me, when it seems more as a coverup got your newness of anything.

 

[Arstotzkan]

And I don't understand what you mean by you were trying to trick me? I found it weird why you out of no where asked me who I thought was scum, but I answered Dad because I didn't have much to go on, the fact that your saying that you were trying to trick me, when it seems more as a coverup got your newness of anything.

Is this directed at me or...? I ron't really get it.

A) What would be your counterarguement to them being off topic leads to them not wanting to put their opinion out there and because they hesitate to put down their thoughts pertaining to the game, they're scummy?
B) Tom's been playing around quite a bit. Why Pusheen and Rune, when Tom fits that criteria better?

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Excuse my grammar: I'm just bone tired over here.

 

[N e s s]

And I don't understand what you mean by you were trying to trick me? I found it weird why you out of no where asked me who I thought was scum, but I answered Dad because I didn't have much to go on, the fact that your saying that you were trying to trick me, when it seems more as a coverup got your newness of anything.

I'm pretty certain this I'd directed at me. I don't understand it either.

also I want trying to "trick" you like you say I am, it was a test. I was seeing if you were going to support my claim on dad being scum.

Also what do you mean by coverup? I am new "ness" to mafia though. (I can pun too guys!)

but if you're trying to point fingers at me right now, you don't have alot of strong claims on me right now. your being pretty wishy washy (weak) with alot of posts really.

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Excuse the grammer there, my phone is autocorrect happy.

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I meant to say "also I wasn't trying to trick you,"

 

[Trojan]

Sorry for being inactive I'm in class right now. I still don't know why I'm being targeted right now though. As for town calls I'd say rune and pusheen the cat because they really don't care at this point. I dont know what to think about ender right now though, he seems to be targeting me and I don't know why.....

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That made no sense at all it I'm typing Fast so.....

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That made no sense at all it I'm typing Fast so.....

 

[N e s s]

Sorry for being inactive I'm in class right now. I still don't know why I'm being targeted right now though. As for town calls I'd say rune and pusheen the cat because they really don't care at this point. I dont know what to think about ender right now though, he seems to be targeting me and I don't know why.....

This is the second time you have said something like this.

Ender why u no love me

 

[Trojan]

This is the second time you have said something like this.

Because I still don't understand why ender is hammering me like this when i haven't posted anything scummy :/

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I was just trying to be friendly to everyone

 

[PandaDarling]

sorry guys have had a pretty rough day... trying to read back at the moment and get some reads.... even though i have work in a little while.... like all the activity !!

 

[N e s s]

Welcome back panda

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So I see people viewing the thread, how is it going?

 

[PandaDarling]

hi TheAhPo.... just trying to read back and get an idea of whats been going on today but finding it a little difficult to follow tbh

 

[N e s s]

hi TheAhPo.... just trying to read back and get an idea of whats been going on today but finding it a little difficult to follow tbh

People are thinking you scum for a reason I forgot

 

[PandaDarling]

i don't think they think im scum they just don't like that i won't give them a strong decision and reason as to who i think is scum... and to be honest i still don't have much of a read on anyone... trying to see why Ender is voting Trojan at the moment, Tom voted for Dad but i think he is just trolling him for some reason and also believe Rune vote for Trojan is just a joke....

 

[oath2order]

i don't think they think im scum they just don't like that i won't give them a strong decision and reason as to who i think is scum... and to be honest i still don't have much of a read on anyone... trying to see why Ender is voting Trojan at the moment, Tom voted for Dad but i think he is just trolling him for some reason and also believe Rune vote for Trojan is just a joke....

I do feel like it's possible Tom and Dad are bussing each other

 

[PandaDarling]

Ender why are you voting for Trojan right now ? i read back all his post and nothing seems scummy to me.

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whats bussing again oath ? when they go against each other even though they are both mafia ?

 

[Arstotzkan]

Alright, just got back on my computer. I'll look through Panda's posts after this:

@Trojan I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm suspicious of you for:
1) You were kinda hypocritical when you just blatantly asked for suspicions, without offering any of your own
2) The Dad vote. You still haven't clarified why scumhunting is suspicious, and I think you ought to explain that before saying that your vote is justified.
3) *NEW* You're piggybacking off of Daniel like hell. Unless you have a damn good reason why Pusheen and Rune are town, then both your biggest suspicion and your two biggest town reads mirror his. You were the one who replied second both times, and since you both sharing suspicions seems so unlikely, that makes me think you're trying to blend in.

I think you ought to give your own reads. Who's suspicious, who isn't. And no piggybacking - I want to hear your actual opinion without you clutching onto Daniel like a lifeline.

 

[PandaDarling]

Alright, just got back on my computer. I'll look through Panda's posts after this:

@Trojan I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm suspicious of you for:
1) You were kinda hypocritical when you just blatantly asked for suspicions, without offering any of your own
2) The Dad vote. You still haven't clarified why scumhunting is suspicious, and I think you ought to explain that before saying that your vote is justified.
3) *NEW* You're piggybacking off of Daniel like hell. Unless you have a damn good reason why Pusheen and Rune are town, then both your biggest suspicion and your two biggest town reads mirror his. You were the one who replied second both times, and since you both sharing suspicions seems so unlikely, that makes me think you're trying to blend in.

I think you ought to give your own reads. Who's suspicious, who isn't. And no piggybacking - I want to hear your actual opinion without you clutching onto Daniel like a lifeline.

thats actually a good point about the piggybacking gonna look at that again.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Oh, also forgot another thing: Trojan said that he doesn't think anything Daniel has done has been suspicious, yet he hasn't really said anything against the people who're casting suspicion on Daniel. More minor compared to point three, but still rubs me the wrong way.