Controversial opinion, but I think people are severely underrating the dialogue in this game

[thelonewanderer]

I see so many people saying they don't talk to their villagers much because the conversation is boring, but that's exactly WHY it's staying boring. You have to keep talking to your villagers, even if they seem annoyed by it at first, because that's how your relationship improves and the better the relationship gets, the more developed and interesting the conversations get. I talk to my villagers multiple times a day every day and it never gets old. They're always saying something new and only rarely have repetition and they even tell me stories about their lives before living on the island. Maybe I'm just lucky and have great villagers, but I love talking to them. They keep me laughing all the time.

Its not about them having new things to say, its about how boring they are and whoever written their line absolutely suck. They have no personality. They flat out suck. The normal villagers are so boring. If I wanted to, I'll just call my aunt. I even fell asleep in a middle of a villagers dialogue.

 

[Fridaynightcatlady]

It had to be better than New Leaf, the dialogue in that game is an embarrassment, and reason why I don't consider New Leaf a true AC game.

I mean the bar was set at 0 with New Leaf personalities so if it was worst than New Leaf, might as well just end the franchise.

New Horizon is still no where close to Gamecube version and is still far inferior to Wild World. So until we get back to those peak, the developers get no praise from me. None at all. None, Zip, Nada, No No, Nil, No Boss

Care to explain how NH is worse than previous entries’ dialogues? With evidence, I would hope

 

[Solio]

I feel like the dialgue is more or less on par with the older titles, though definetly better than in NL. The older games had a lot of repeating dialogue as well so I don't understand why people expect some crazy AI that is able of complex conversations.

 

[thelonewanderer]

I totally agree. In fact, I made a thread about this not long ago.

I think those who complain about it just don’t remember the quality of the dialogue in NL. It was, imo, 90% of the time villagers asking you stuff (“catch me this” “fetch me that” “get me some furniture” “sell me this”) and like 10% interesting dialogue that got repetitive. Even NPC dialogue in NL was awful. They butchered all NPCs (so much for having soo many NPC’s lol)

As for previous games. I love WW and GCN dialogue. However, if you do look back on those games, the dialogue isn’t as different to what we have now. I think NH is on par with WW, tbh. Even GCN and WW had repetitive lines and GCN had loooots of those “connect your GBA” dialogue. I believe we look back at the dialogue in GCN more fondly also because of nostalgia. I do think it’s great, though, and the best in the series. But people are crazy to think NH is so far from that. Sure, villagers aren’t mean (which was taken off bc of complains, so there you have it).

If anything, and if you’re one of the people claiming NH dialogue sucks compared to previous entries, at least show some evidence about it.

WW blow New Horizon out of the water. And I don't talk about New Leaf, that was a souless Animal Crossing game. I only compare New Horizon to GC/WW because why would you compare it to something that suck? It like comparing your C to someone with a D grade and being proud of it. No compare it to someone with A's.

There was no boring villagers/dialogue in Wild World. Wild World didn't have much to do but it dialogue was extremely engaging with multiple choice option (one less than GC) meanwhile in NL and NH, you get one option, "how was your day", "do you want this", and "just wanted to say hi". The latter two are not dialogue option. So New Horizon has one option choice. Wild World had 2 to 3 and GC version had 3 to 4 dialogue option at any given time. Most I see New Horizon have is 2.

And yes the mean personality is missing but even normal villagers and non-mean personality are boring as hell. It like Nintendo fire all GC and WW script writer or something.

Wild World may not have that many dialogue but each one was long, engaging, and with multiple options and it allow you to understand each villagers true personality more. Who knows if I had met Cookie, Marina, and Lobo in Wild World, I might actually like them. As it stand, can't wait to get rid of those clowns.

 

[Fridaynightcatlady]

WW blow New Horizon out of the water. And I don't talk about New Leaf, that was a souless Animal Crossing game. I only compare New Horizon to GC/WW because why would you compare it to something that suck? It like comparing your C to someone with a D grade and being proud of it. No compare it to someone with A's.

There was no boring villagers/dialogue in Wild World. Wild World didn't have much to do but it dialogue was extremely engaging with multiple choice option (one less than GC) meanwhile in NL and NH, you get one option, "how was your day", "do you want this", and "just wanted to say hi". The latter two are not dialogue option. So New Horizon has one option choice. Wild World had 2 to 3 and GC version had 3 to 4 dialogue option at any given time. Most I see New Horizon have is 2.

And yes the mean personality is missing but even normal villagers and non-mean personality are boring as hell. It like Nintendo fire all GC and WW script writer or something.

Wild World may not have that many dialogue but each one was long, engaging, and with multiple options and it allow you to understand each villagers true personality more. Who knows if I had met Cookie, Marina, and Lobo in Wild World, I might actually like them. As it stand, can't wait to get rid of those clowns.

What? WW and GCN didn’t have that many options of dialogue consistently. Sure, in GCN they’d ask something or play a game of sorts and that would open 3-4 options. Same thing has happened in NH (though maybe less occasionally), when they ask you some of your favorite things. In fact, NH has the same amount of “standard” dialogue options when first talking to a villager as GCN (but GCN had the “got any work for me?” option of sorts instead of the “this is for you” option in NH), whereas WW had two.

 

[SleepyMimeko]

I agree that the dialog is way better than New Leaf's, but it still needs improvement to equal the dialog in the gamecube game. For example: In ACGC, a villager will ask, "Which do you like best: sleeping or eating?". Their reactions and responses would be different depending on if you chose sleeping, eating, or both. In new horizons, the villager asking the question would probably agree with you no matter which one you chose. Also if you have a second player, they ask you endless questions about them and bring up their new titles nonstop in new horizons.

 

[thelonewanderer]

What? WW and GCN didn’t have that many options of dialogue consistently. Sure, in GCN they’d ask something or play a game of sorts and that would open 3-4 options. Same thing has happened in NH (though maybe less occasionally), when they ask you some of your favorite things. In fact, NH has the same amount of “standard” dialogue options when first talking to a villager as GCN (but GCN had the “got any work for me?” option of sorts instead of the “this is for you” option in NH), whereas WW had two.

GC had consistenly 2 options most of the time and can reach up to 4. NH has 1 option most of the time and at most I seen is 2. And "got any work for me" is far better than "do you want this". WW has 2 options most of the time and can reach up to 3 in some instance.

I don't see how New Horizon is even in the same ballpark. I never play CF so I don't know if it the same as WW or if it tamer. Don't think many people play CF

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I agree that the dialog is way better than New Leaf's, but it still needs improvement to equal the dialog in the gamecube game. For example: In ACGC, a villager will ask, "Which do you like best: sleeping or eating?". Their reactions and responses would be different depending on if you chose sleeping, eating, or both. In new horizons, the villager asking the question would probably agree with you no matter which one you chose. Also if you have a second player, they ask you endless questions about them and bring up their new titles nonstop in new horizons.

This is what people fail to understand, exactly this!

 

[trashpedia]

Imo I think it’s better but it can be improved though. I mean, there is going to be some repetitive dialogue every now and then because I don’t expect there to be some powerful AI that can generate text on the spot.

 

[Fridaynightcatlady]

GC had consistenly 2 options most of the time and can reach up to 4. NH has 1 option most of the time and at most I seen is 2. And "got any work for me" is far better than "do you want this". WW has 2 options most of the time and can reach up to 3 in some instance.

I don't see how New Horizon is even in the same ballpark. I never play CF so I don't know if it the same as WW or if it tamer. Don't think many people play CF

You realize most of the dialogue in GCN that had those "two options" were also most of them about "hey trade me this for this thing" or "wanna buy me this?" (which was also extremely repetitive). How does that add more quality to the dialogue in the game?

Also, you're here throwing all this claims and shade on NH, and all you've seen is two dialogue options? Lol, what a joke. I've seen 3 to 4, less occasionally but plenty of times, nonetheless.

Stop being a troll.

 

[thelonewanderer]

You realize most of the dialogue in GCN that had those "two options" were also most of them about "hey trade me this for this thing" or "wanna buy me this?" (which was also extremely repetitive). How does that add more quality to the dialogue in the game?

Also, you're here throwing all this claims and shade on NH, and all you've seen is two dialogue options? Lol, what a joke. I've seen 3 to 4, less occasionally but plenty of times, nonetheless.

Stop being a troll.

You just call me a troll. Yup I'm done, won't bother with someone who is immature.

 

[thegunpowderincident]

I think a lot of people kind of jumped the gun and started saying the dialogue was repetitive during the (very long) Bunny Day celebration, where that was all villagers would talk about. But yeah, from the beginning I felt like the dialogue in this game was much better than NL. Not only was NL repetitive, a lot of the dialogue was just weird/annoying to me, for the same reasons you listed in the original post.

 

[Solio]

There is repetition in the dialogue! To say otherwise is a bit disingenuous. I mean, today every single villager I talked to felt the need to remind me that the HHA will be judging our houses tomorrow. The thing is... I think it's wrong to rule out NH fo this, because it's always been a problem. Yes, even in the GC-version. And saying that the dialogue wasn't repetitive and boring after a while back then is just as disingenuous.

 

[Fridaynightcatlady]

There is repetition in the dialogue! To say otherwise is a bit disingenuous. I mean, today every single villager I talked to felt the need to remind me that the HHA will be judging our houses. The thing is... I think it's wrong to rule out NH fo this, because it's always been a problem. Yes, even in the GC-version. And saying that the dialogue was't repetitive and boring after a while back then is just as disingenuous.

Oh, yeah, for sure! I think it can be repetitive. I think my biggest problem is people claiming previous games weren't as repetitive. Like, they expected new dialogue each and every time they spoke to villagers? NL was way more repetitive and had absolutely no depth. And the first entries of AC were awesome, but they also had repetitive dialogue, we're just clinging over nostalgia, which is fine, too.

 

[0orchid]

Yeah the dialogue is so much more lively in this game once you get closer to your villagers. I take screenshots of funny lines all the time, I have hundreds of screenshots of that by now and none of them are identical. Their conversations with each other are my favorite!

 

[Fridaynightcatlady]

Yeah the dialogue is so much more lively in this game once you get closer to your villagers. I take screenshots of funny lines all the time, I have hundreds of screenshots of that by now and none of them are identical. Their conversations with each other are my favorite!

I do the same thing! Haha

 

[That Marshal Fangirl]

I love the dialogue in this game! You can tell that Nintendo put lots of care and effort into it. I just witnessed a conversation between Phoebe and Leonardo where we were making song lyrics. I clicked the "find a better mortgage rate!" lyric option and Phoebe was so confused, it was hilarious lmao.

 

[grrrolf]

As someone who absolutely adores Wild World seeing as it was my first AC game, I think people are remembering its dialogue through nostalgia goggles a little bit too much. I played it very actively a few years ago, and while the dialogue was very entertaining, does anyone remember villager hobbies? They would get super focused on something, like bug catching, and basically all they would do/talk about was catching bugs or asking you to catch bugs for them. Or race to catch a specific bug. Or they'd say things like "I'm super into gold furniture recently!" and talk about it constantly. I would say NH is above Wild World in dialogue quality because of that, and that's coming from someone who loves Wild World.

 

[Fridaynightcatlady]

As someone who absolutely adores Wild World seeing as it was my first AC game, I think people are remembering its dialogue through nostalgia goggles a little bit too much. I played it very actively a few years ago, and while the dialogue was very entertaining, does anyone remember villager hobbies? They would get super focused on something, like bug catching, and basically all they would do/talk about was catching bugs or asking you to catch bugs for them. Or race to catch a specific bug. Or they'd say things like "I'm super into gold furniture recently!" and talk about it constantly. I would say NH is above Wild World in dialogue quality because of that, and that's coming from someone who loves Wild World.

I agree! I played through my GCN save a little before NH released and while I love the dialogue in GCN AC, you'd get hit with a lot of "do you want X furniture?" "would you sell/trade that for x furniture/bells?" kind of dialogue. Again, GCN AC had hilarious dialogue, some it was dark as well lol and all the mean stuff, which because it was one of the few AC like that (WW being the other), it's hard not to think fondly of that dialogue. But it did get repetitive as well. I think people like to remember things the way they want to, and often forget what was actually happening.

NH, imo, was developed with GCN in mind. There's so many common features between both games, as some long lost GCN features returned in NH. It makes sense that even the dialogue is similar in quality and I love that. It's weird to see/read so many people - even on social media - react negatively to the writing.

 

[Stil]

Dont get me wrong, I love the dialog... There just isnt enough of it.

 

[cylin]

I’ve never played any other ACs, but I do enjoy the dialogues in NH. Once Kody asked me what kind of drinks I liked, and I typed smoothie (there were 3-4 options to choose from, and with the last one you can type your answer). Then yesterday my friend visited me, and she told me when she talked to Keaton, Keaton told her that my favorite drink is smoothie! I just love the feeling that the villagers are apparently secretly gossiping about you, because Keaton never mentioned to me that he knew i love smoothie but he told my friend the first time they met lol.