Changing the way we use TBT! MASSIVE CHANGE TO MARKETPLACE, NEW PRICING GUIDE!

[Aronthaer]

Decent idea but it won't work. It's essentially an economy that works along competition based rate systems.
People will buy more of the cheapest items. There is no sound way to make people sell at a guide rate or make people buy at a guide rate.
Your ideas work in favor of TBT members who try to collect TBT and not animal crossing items, which is the opposite of what this website was intended for (selling and buying animal crossing items).

Tbt works along 2 different currencies which is why it will be almost impossible to keep a number. AC:NL bells are far easier to obtain than TBT bells so its hard to even compare the few without inflating/deflating the one or the other.

I don't want to sound rude, but you have been on this site for only a couple months, so I don't think you have much room to blame people for the inflation of the rates from IGB:TBT because I have read complaint threads from back in 2014 and 2013.
If you were to blame it on something, blame it on collectibles.

Even though I don't like to bring in villager trading rates, if you look at in context, you are asking people to pay nearly 1000-2000 tbt for T1 villagers like they did back in the day. But back in the day, as Zane mentioned, people had access to welcome bells which gave them an advantage. Villager trading is probably the biggest asset to the site and if you overwhelm new members with unachievable rates for furniture and villagers they will leave and we will lose all productivity that the site has worked towards.

Also, you want to make furniture and Bell rates higher, ex. 20+ TBT for a gold rose?
How would this help the idea of hackers gaining above everyone. By raising the rates, it'll actually attract more hackers again and put more bells in their wallets to take over the site. There is no sound way of stopping hackers so this will be an issue wether we like it or not.

But you really can't make a standard rate on generated items that get produced much faster than TBT.
Well you can try, but no one would respectfully follow it for more than a week, assuming the mods won't promote and make this a rule to follow - which I doubt they will.
This argument is 2 sided but it wouldn't realistically take effect. This will even out with a next full animal crossing game I'm sure tho

Your argument makes a lot of sense, and your points are very valid. however, I don't mean to blow up item prices as much as your post says. quite frankly, I think villager prices are the only thing on point right now: they're being sold for a decent price. maybe up it a little bit, but it can stay there. And hybrids won't be blown up a lot, since they can be mass-produced and people buy them by the hundreds. I simply wanted to correct things such as 5 TBT unorderables and 5 TBT golden tools, since those are just products of hacking. It's a hard market, to be sure, but I think we could adjust it to work a little better.

Also, I agree, this'll all be fixed when a new AC game comes around

 

[LethalLulu]

First of all, petitions don't change the economy. It's based off the law of supply and demand. Supply is high and demand is low, two things that cause something to be incredibly cheap, even free.

Second of all, I don't think this thread even belongs here.

 

[shendere]

Your argument makes a lot of sense, and your points are very valid. however, I don't mean to blow up item prices as much as your post says. quite frankly, I think villager prices are the only thing on point right now: they're being sold for a decent price. maybe up it a little bit, but it can stay there. And hybrids won't be blown up a lot, since they can be mass-produced and people buy them by the hundreds. I simply wanted to correct things such as 5 TBT unorderables and 5 TBT golden tools, since those are just products of hacking. It's a hard market, to be sure, but I think we could adjust it to work a little better.

Also, I agree, this'll all be fixed when a new AC game comes around

I don't know if villagers are still sold this much, but I used to sell them last year and others tier 1, used to go for at most 300TBT/BTB, there were others who were competing as well as this is a competitive place for tbt who sold for less like 250 for tier 1 or even 150 as time went on to get more buyers. But yeah, tbt value increased a ton because of collectibles. If no one cared so much or WAIT FOR IT.... SOLD THEM LESS AND STOPPED FOLLOWING HIGH GUIDE PRICES, tbt would be saved a lottttttt more and shops would open more, I just think having the guides on collectibles ruins it and causes greedy users to get more bells out of you, just sell at whatever you want so what if a house is 5k? Sell it for 3.5k. You know? You don't have to follow the guides and go for high high prices all the time. Collectibles really went up ending of last year to now so that's basically all that's going around tbt, it's basically a collectible site now lol

 

[N a t]

I like this idea, because the thought of making things kind of challenging again is fun. However, I like to be nice and often give stuff away or sell at low prices, because I feel like I'm doing people a favor. I traded with a girl on here once, and when she asked if I had the 7/11 set I gave the whole set to her for free since I never used it. I wanna think this over before I sign, not because I have an issue with being less generous, but really because I might forget that it's a bad idea to be overly generous and that it might combat this act.

 

[f11]

u gay bro?

How do you know it declined when u literally just joined.

 

[tae]

what is this garbage.

 

[radical6]

THATS NOT HOW ECONOMY WORKS

YOU MIGHT AS WELL PETITION FOR COMMUNIST TBT!
(which i support!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

 

[tae]

"Why on earth would I want to pay more for things?

Have you noticed the lack of ACNL shops around TBT lately? There used to be all sorts of item shops, but now there's maybe one or two in use. Why is that, you ask? With the current asking rate for items, selling things in ACNL is no longer profitable for people."

it's literally bc not many ppl play acnl now... same with cycling it's a dying trade. not bc of prices, but bc everyone is far along in their main towns and already have everything they need..

this thread is completely pointless.

 

[lizzy541]

exchange rates will keep fluctuating no matter what, so a 'set price' seems unachievable. raising the rate may work for a short period of time, but it will most likely end back to where it is now eventually.

 

[ZetaFunction]

Sign! But I don't think this is going to work unless everyone is in the same mindset....

There are a lot of reasons why I don't think this will work, but one of the main ones are: collectibles. Greedy people powersave and such to get TBT to buy the rare ones, not caring about deflating the IGB value. That's why the did it in the first place.... and, it's also why the collectible prices have inflated like stupid lately. If you look back at the TBT history, you'll see IGB/TBT rates increase, and at the same time, collectible values increase as well. They're related. Take away collectibles, and you'll see a lot less people cheating for TBT. They're, unfortunately, what damaged and is still damaging the TBT economy, and also the one reason why TBT is still super active. It gives everyone something to do when they're not playing AC:NL, Pokemon, creating art, shtposting, etc.

But, if enough people do it, it might work. 1 TBT = 25k IGB seems a stretch, but, maybe 1 TBT = 100k IGB? That sounds doable. Maybe, after the restocks, I'll farm beetles and sell some IGB at that rate. I'll probably get no customers though LOL.
^ see the issue?
You can't really fix it because.... who would want to buy that much IGB from me for that much TBT, when other's will pay more IGB for the same amount of TBT? Like.... if I tried that, people would hate me, report my thread, dislike me and say "y u tryina make tbt off my homie??? go troll elsewhere!!1!11!"

But this is a good start towards fixing it. Make everyone aware, including new members, and eventually, if everyone's not greedy for one bloody second, and everyone agrees on something for once (heavens know it'll never happen), then it's possible to fix. It's going to take a long time though before everyone on here is aware, or isn't greedy, for this is begin taking place.

 

[princesse]

I signed already, but I feel like if, hypothetically speaking, the prices per btb is 25k. Soon enough, people will complain about how everything is more expensive and make a thread saying to move the price per btb up.

 

[Seroja]

Hmmm I kind of agree. I only became active in April this year after the exchange rate became 1:200K. I'm super poor now after selling all of ma bells. I also set the price in my shop based on what I saw in other shops that were set up before mine. Had no idea they were sold for much more :/ wish I was active back then.

 

[Stil]

People need to understand that being greedy with our BTB wont get us anywhere. To make the economy flourish we need to have active buyers pushing out a lot of BTB, not just hog it all. Yeah, I get it, we will be paying more but if we are just handed everything super cheap then that would be no fun. Otherwise the rich get all they want and the new members are stuck with 50 BTB for the hybrids or sets they worked very hard for.

 

[Minties]

People need to understand that being greedy with our BTB wont get us anywhere. To make the economy flourish we need to have active buyers pushing out a lot of BTB, not just hog it all. Yeah, I get it, we will be paying more but if we are just handed everything super cheap then that would be no fun. Otherwise the rich get all they want and the new members are stuck with 50 BTB for the hybrids or sets they worked very hard for.

>not be greedy
> has 7 toy hammers

Okay friend.



I think people should just find ways to make bells? Sell art or items or villagers or your body whatever. It's not impossible, people just want things handed to them.

 

[f11]

Ha get rekt infinity

Mounties basically summed up what i was thinking

 

[Corrie]

This is gonna sound horrible. I think the rates are insane but are also pretty sweet when it comes to selling your tbt for in game bells. If you needed millions, you could get them in seconds due to so many people being thirsty for tbt. XD

 

[Stil]

>not be greedy
> has 7 toy hammers

Okay friend.



I think people should just find ways to make bells? Sell art or items or villagers or your body whatever. It's not impossible, people just want things handed to them.

First off, dont call me friend.
Second, I busted my *** to get my Hammers. Payed 7500 a piece. Never once made a restock or won a giveaway.
Third, Ask anybody on TBT that has bought a collectible from me if I'm greedy. I ALWAYS pay high end guide prices and I sell my collectibles hundreds or even thousands under guide price.

Dont act like you know me kid, because you dont.

As for you Crys, you mean nothing to me and anybody who thinks its funny to go around and call people "gay" is a child in my book.

Sorry kiddos, but the only people getting "rekt" is you c:

 

[seliph]

Otherwise the rich get all they want and the new members are stuck with 50 BTB for the hybrids or sets they worked very hard for.

2 words: git gud

As for you Crys, you mean nothing to me and anybody who thinks its funny to go around and call people "gay" os a child in my book.

This is so straight

Sorry kiddos, but the only people getting "rekt" is you c:

Yall think you can change the tbt economy just by having a handful of people pay higher for items that are hardly in demand anymore this thread and everyone signing were rekt from the start.

 

[Minties]

D'aww struck a nerve. Sorry frienderino. I like how anyone that disagrees is branded a child though. Real smooth ya probably sub-20 edge lord.

On topic -
There's always a way to make TBT bells. This is the same parallel as in real life. There's always a way to make money if you want something. It's call hard work.

A petition of 15 people is not going to make the thousands of users on TBT suddenly dump all their bells to help out people that just joined. By that logic, why don't we just give them all a pink feather just for joining TBT!

 

[Stil]

2 words: git gud



This is so straight



Yall think you can change the tbt economy just by having a handful of people pay higher for items that are hardly in demand anymore this thread and everyone signing were rekt from the start.

I never said "I" can change the economy. I said I support the idea to change it. c: