Bullying - Discussion

[SecondSider]

Are you kidding me? Lack Of Empathy.

Has it ever occurred too you that maybe, just maybe, some people are more sensitive than you? For example, I have a friend with depression, and is bullied constantly because of it. And it affects her, deeply. Are you telling me to tell her to "man the **** up?".

No, I'd comfort people rather than tell them to shut up.

One of those people would be me. I can't imagine why he'd say something strong like that.

 

[Caius]

I had a problem with bullying a while back. It wasn't really the 'stereotypical' definition of bullying though. It was another incident I'd rather not get into that was a little more psychologically taxing. It ended up with me letting the other person win, letting them get under my skin, and trying my best to avoid them. I still don't feel 'free' around this person and it's been like this for around fourteen years.

I think it all comes down to I don't know what to say or do to diffuse something that happened ages ago. I don't know how it changed his life and he doesn't know how it changed mine. Removing myself is great and all but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want some kind of closure or something to even acknowledge it happened at all to come out of it. I'll probably be avoiding him for the rest of my life.

When I was much, much younger.. I'd like to say six or seven, there was another boy in my neighborhood that used to bully me. It was more like torture. He was around eleven or so. I've always been short, small, and fickle. He was pretty big for his age. He'd chase me around. I never knew what he'd do if he caught me. Sometimes I locked myself in the back seat of my mothers car and he would actually grab the bumper of the car and shake it. It terrified me. At one point I told my mother. She grabbed him and slammed him against the wall. I was still scared, but about a year later my 'tormenter' and I became good friends. He thanked my mother for turning his life around and changing him for the better, and I finally had a group of friends I could hang out with.

The thing about that is, yes I was bullied, and yes it happened fairly often, but I did nothing to diffuse the situation. Of course, I was young, but I honestly have no advice from experience from my younger days because it was always my mother pulling me out of trouble.

At another point, around the age of five there were boys that would push me out in front of moving vehicles. My mom caught them doing this at one point and again used violence to diffuse the situation. It was wrong to use violence against violence, but it's been a common joke in the family that my mom has the 'scared the wrong' out of a person approach. Both of the people she's done this to have gone on to law and medical school. They thank her for their success.

That isn't to say I haven't been approached now. I don't know if you could count it as bullying, but there is constantly a guy at my patio who asks to come over, for me to go to his place, or asking for things I will not give. It's verbal harassment. How I deal with this is just to talk to them, or remove myself from them. If I'm followed I just make sure they know I mean business. When you're a kid, bullying is the same approach to a child as harassment is to an adult. You really do have to learn how to show someone you're not afraid of them, and that you're not going to give them the benefit of hurting you.

It may injure pride, but let an adult help you if you're in trouble. Find someone who will listen. There is someone out there. My favorite method is traveling in groups. I'm never alone. It helps.

 

[Lampokos]

So you basically BECAME a bully instead.....

No, and that's just stupid what you implied.
I get some people are sensitive, but you have to change your mentality.
The world is big.
These idiots that bully you will be gone when you're an adult.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Are you kidding me? Lack Of Empathy.

Has it ever occurred too you that maybe, just maybe, some people are more sensitive than you? For example, I have a friend with depression, and is bullied constantly because of it. And it affects her, deeply. Are you telling me to tell her to "man the **** up?".

No, I'd comfort people rather than tell them to shut up.

Like what I said to Bambi, some people are sensitive.
But they need to get the mentality that what some immature idiots say.
There are plenty of people like that in life, but you can easily get away from them, and if you can't, it's easy to ignore them.
It's better to man the **** up instead of taking it and thinking that what they say actually means something.
Sure, I'm a cynical POS, but I have experience with this, it takes time to form that mentality for some, and it's not easy.
But they need to do it.

 

[Rue]

Guys, I suggest you ignore Lampokos and his 'friend' TheObscure. Looking through their postings its quite clear that they are here to 'troll' and be rude.

 

[Smoke]

People that are being bullied and cry about it and make these stupid anti-bullying campaigns should stop being massive, blubbering pussies, man the **** up, and take it.
I've been bullied before, and it's made me stronger in the process. Stop being a giant baby and grow up. It's just some ****** spouting stupid insults at you.
I hate people that complain about this ****.
Bullying is petty, and it shouldn't affect you unless it's physical. I was bullied all of my life up until middle school. Then I manned the **** up and stopped being a baby. I didn't care about it anymore because it doesn't matter. If you don't care about what they say, don't complain about it, or cry about it. Simple as that.
That's all I have to say.

I can agree with the message you intend to send, but being a dick about it and some edgy cool guy who can cuss doesn't make your point any more valid to those of us here who prefer a mature discussion. Try a bit harder to go about your point more maturely next time, and maybe you'd get less negative feedback. You're no better than anyone else because you think you're some tough guy. I've been bullied, too. Am I gonna call other people babies for having weaker self esteem or different perception of abuse than I do? No, I'm not. So kindly take your immaturity and force it to 180.

 

[Lampokos]

Guys, I suggest you ignore Lampokos and his 'friend' TheObscure. Looking through their postings its quite clear that they are here to 'troll' and be rude.

I'm not trying to troll.
Obscure makes serious posts some of the time as well, but I agree with you on that.
If I were trying to troll I wouldn't be on here making legitimate posts, would I?
No.
So don't jump to conclusions because I have a controversial opinion.
It's stupid, and if anything, it doesn't support actual discussion on bullying.
I wouldn't be here if I didn't actually enjoy Animal Crossing.
Stop jumping onto the bandwagon of dumb buzzwords you think you know because it's part of "INTERNET CULTUER LOL11!!!". Troll is a bad word to use, and I am not a troll by any means.

I can agree with the message you intend to send, but being a dick about it and some edgy cool guy who can cuss doesn't make your point any more valid to those of us here who prefer a mature discussion. Try a bit harder to go about your point more maturely next time, and maybe you'd get less negative feedback. You're no better than anyone else because you think you're some tough guy. I've been bullied, too. Am I gonna call other people babies for having weaker self esteem or different perception of abuse than I do? No, I'm not. So kindly take your immaturity and force it to 180.

Just because I cuss doesn't make me immature.
If you seriously think I'm trying to be an "edgy cool guy", maybe you should grow up.
I was angry, because I'm tired of seeing this drivel about how bullying is so terrible and how bullies should be punished.
The world isn't a hugbox.
Bullying is healthy, because it forces you to grow up, and stop caring about all the bad stuff that happens. It makes you stronger in the long run, and people shouldn't try to stop it.
Also, I definitely don't think of myself as some tough guy.

 

[Smoke]

Just because I cuss doesn't make me immature.
If you seriously think I'm trying to be an "edgy cool guy", maybe you should grow up.
I was angry, because I'm tired of seeing this drivel about how bullying is so terrible and how bullies should be punished.
The world isn't a hugbox.
Bullying is healthy, because it forces you to grow up, and stop caring about all the bad stuff that happens. It makes you stronger in the long run, and people shouldn't try to stop it.
Also, I definitely don't think of myself as some tough guy.

Well, that's good for you, then. I know the world isn't a hugbox. I know it all too well. I'm still not going to go around complaining because some people can't take bullying the same way you do. Not everyone perceives things the same. Surely you can at least understand that.

 

[Lampokos]

Well, that's good for you, then. I know the world isn't a hugbox. I know it all too well. I'm still not going to go around complaining because some people can't take bullying the same way you do. Not everyone perceives things the same. Surely you can at least understand that.

Of course I understand that. Did you even read my other posts? I get people are sensitive. I'm not going to present the same points again and again.

 

[oath2order]

Hey, everybody, let's try to have a reasonable discussion here. Sure, Lampokos may have came off as a dick, but that doesn't invalidate his opinions.

Also, I definitely don't think of myself as some tough guy.

This is hard to believe when you keep saying "man up".

People that are being bullied and cry about it and make these stupid anti-bullying campaigns should stop being massive, blubbering pussies, man the **** up, and take it.
I've been bullied before, and it's made me stronger in the process. Stop being a giant baby and grow up. It's just some ****** spouting stupid insults at you.
I hate people that complain about this ****.
Bullying is petty, and it shouldn't affect you unless it's physical. I was bullied all of my life up until middle school. Then I manned the **** up and stopped being a baby. I didn't care about it anymore because it doesn't matter. If you don't care about what they say, don't complain about it, or cry about it. Simple as that.
That's all I have to say.

What's so bad about an anti-bullying campaign? You said in the IRC that they don't affect anything; that we went along fine in the past. Well, what's so bad about wanting to eliminate or at the very least, minimize bullying? The reason you think it didn't happen so much in the past is because it wasn't reported as much. With the Internet, news about bullying gets spread much more. What normally would have been hidden now gets announced in the news.

Guys, it's possible to have a reasonable debate without insulting each other and calling each other a troll. Anyone else got a story of their own?

 

[Lampokos]

Hey, everybody, let's try to have a reasonable discussion here. Sure, Lampokos may have came off as a dick, but that doesn't invalidate his opinions.


This is hard to believe when you keep saying "man up".



What's so bad about an anti-bullying campaign? You said in the IRC that they don't affect anything; that we went along fine in the past. Well, what's so bad about wanting to eliminate or at the very least, minimize bullying? The reason you think it didn't happen so much in the past is because it wasn't reported as much. With the Internet, news about bullying gets spread much more. What normally would have been hidden now gets announced in the news.

Guys, it's possible to have a reasonable debate without insulting each other and calling each other a troll. Anyone else got a story of their own?

Because in my opinion, minimizing bullying is going to end up being worse in the long run. There is such a thing as being TOO sensitive, and that's what I fear might happen. Bullying strengthens you emotionally, so the petty insults affect you less and less. That's why I feel bullying is healthy.
I say man up because I'm strong emotionally, I don't feel "badass" or "cool" when I do this stuff. I just try to get my point across, and while I may not do it in the best way, I still try to get it done.

Sure, Lampokos may have came off as a dick, but that doesn't invalidate his opinions.

I really appreciate this, too.

 

[PapaNer]

I'm not gonna go through and quote everything.

Bullying is not healthy. I'm not saying no matter what kids should wear pads and helmets and not be mean to each other, but there are actual mental problems and horrid environments that many younger kids suffer in. By being shat on at home and in school/wherever, some of these kids just become flat out depressed. A lot of times no one is there to tell them not to worry about it, and those are some of the kids that just up and kill themselves. You think it's healthy? You're just pissing on a fence there, pal.

Everyone saying that we should eradicate it: never gonna happen. The world has tons of dilholes, and it's up to the common good to separate the innocent people from the dilholes. While I agree that sometimes the kid being bullied is 100% the victim of BS, but sometimes that kid getting bullied is being bullied because he's a piece of crap. There are no realistic ways to balance it, and it'll forever be something that's going on.

But I think it lies most with parents (and sometimes the lack of parents). If you raise your kid to be alright, they'll probably be alright. If you don't give a flying cuss and just slap their mouths full of sugar and soda in the middle of Wal Mart at 2 in the morning on a school night so that they can stay up and play Call of Duty all night long, you're just a real **** person, and you should be made infertile.

How to get good results in the world? Have a standardized test to reproduce.

 

[Lampokos]

But I think it lies most with parents (and sometimes the lack of parents). If you raise your kid to be alright, they'll probably be alright. If you don't give a flying cuss and just slap their mouths full of sugar and soda in the middle of Wal Mart at 2 in the morning on a school night so that they can stay up and play Call of Duty all night long, you're just a real **** person, and you should be made infertile.

How to get good results in the world? Have a standardized test to reproduce.

I like this.

 

[Byngo]

Lampokos: I can vaguely see your point. But... It seems as if you're condoning violence. Maybe that's not what you're trying to get across, but that's what I get from you. Wouldn't it be better to become emotionally fortified by some way other than bullying?

Actually, I am having trouble wrapping my head around the thought that bullying in any way, shape, or form is healthy. Just can't see it.

 

[Lampokos]

Lampokos: I can vaguely see your point. But... It seems as if you're condoning violence. Maybe that's not what you're trying to get across, but that's what I get from you. Wouldn't it be better to become emotionally fortified by some way other than bullying?

Actually, I am having trouble wrapping my head around the thought that bullying in any way, shape, or form is healthy. Just can't see it.

It's a little complicated to explain, simply because it's a bad thing, but it's also something that is fairly needed.
What other ways can we emotionally fortify ourselves from the disapproval of other people?
If we don't emotionally fortify ourselves, we're going to be weaker, and easier to manipulate, to use.
Bullying conditions you to the disapproval of other people, and once you overcome the pain caused by bullying, you stop caring about what they think about you, and that feeling encourages people to be themselves.
So bullying is healthy in a way, and it's not going away, so we might as well look at bullying in a positive light.

 

[Furry Sparks]

you're just a real **** person, and you should be made infertile.

How to get good results in the world? Have a standardized test to reproduce.

Boy, it sure is eugenics in here.

 

[oath2order]

But I think it lies most with parents (and sometimes the lack of parents). If you raise your kid to be alright, they'll probably be alright. If you don't give a flying cuss and just slap their mouths full of sugar and soda in the middle of Wal Mart at 2 in the morning on a school night so that they can stay up and play Call of Duty all night long, you're just a real **** person, and you should be made infertile.

How to get good results in the world? Have a standardized test to reproduce.

what the ****.

 

[Caius]

I can't agree with the parents thing. In some cases yes. You can't say a parent is responsible for a person for their entire life though.

 

[PapaNer]

I can't agree with the parents thing. In some cases yes. You can't say a parent is responsible for a person for their entire life though.

I'm not saying that it's COMPLETELY with parents, I'm just saying that in most cases this is what you learn from. I mean, I'd be more surprised to see a kid from a loving family be cray cray, and vise versa.

 

[PapaNer]

Boy, it sure is eugenics in here.

Really off topic, but way to have 7,777 posts. I think you win a prize.

 

[Nicole.]

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