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Sporge27 said:
Ahe hem, my first game system ever was a sega genesis, but I had friends with a SNES or NES and still played those a decent amount. I updated my systems when needed but I always loved games and the potential they hold, both then and the ever more realistic games that can be made now. There is one thing in this article that I absolutely agree with Nintendo has always made some of the best hardware, delivering what they said they would with a durability topped by no one.

Behold how the gamecube dominated the ps2 and xbox

Nintendo might not have the best hardware specs, but they are great at knowing what is a good amount for the time. The Wii though underpowered compared to the others, was the only one making money off console sales at launch, and was still cheaper! My Wii has worked perfectly since launch, though I have had a friend, or 7 witha failed xbox 360.

As far as games go, Nintendo has unfortunately alienated 3rd parties from their system. This is mainly a result of Nintendo games being too good. Glitches are hard to find on Nintendo games, camera angles are normally as good as they get. If I had a nickle for everytime I got annoyed at the camera in sonic adventure, I would have a lot of nickles, and yet I never remember such frustration in say ocarina of time, a game before Sonic Adventure. Some Nintendo games have become a formula, but at the same time Nintendo has been the company behind most major advancements in anything with gaming. Do some things fail? Yes but somethings revolutionize the industry. From the first 3d console games, to the D pad, to their new controller (that both other companies are copying fyi).

This brings me to Miyamoto, he is a man I idolize, he is still young at heart over so many years and still occasionally gets out an amazing and new game. Pikmin was amazing! It was just soo much fun for me, and it was done in a fairly creative style. He made entire worlds of intrigue with characters as memorable as Micky Mouse if not more so.

By no means does it mean it is always at the top nor always makes the right ideas, the point is they know when to adapt something new. That is why they survive and still have profits out the wazoo. Yes they keep making new games that seem to copy old ones of theirs rather often, but every so often a game sparks into existence from them that changes the face of gaming. Lately a lot of repeats are because they sell extremely well among a demographic they finally got gaming. They expanded their base and yes it has upset those who claim to be "hard core", but they will return because soon their new demographic will also be "hard core", and then that will be what is profitable for them again.
Excellent post Sporge, agreed with pretty much everything you said.
 
Bacon Boy said:
Ninty went from cards to love cab to vacumes like the one in LM, then finally to games.
Yup. I actually own some Nintendo hanafuda cards. =3 I got them from Club Nintendo. They're Mario themed, but they still have the classic Japanese style that the originals did.

Here they are:
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<small>Also, I wish Nintendo would make love hotels again... But in the U.S. XD X3</small>
 
Sporge27 said:
Ahe hem, my first game system ever was a sega genesis, but I had friends with a SNES or NES and still played those a decent amount. I updated my systems when needed but I always loved games and the potential they hold, both then and the ever more realistic games that can be made now. There is one thing in this article that I absolutely agree with Nintendo has always made some of the best hardware, delivering what they said they would with a durability topped by no one.

Behold how the gamecube dominated the ps2 and xbox

Nintendo might not have the best hardware specs, but they are great at knowing what is a good amount for the time. The Wii though underpowered compared to the others, was the only one making money off console sales at launch, and was still cheaper! My Wii has worked perfectly since launch, though I have had a friend, or 7 witha failed xbox 360.

As far as games go, Nintendo has unfortunately alienated 3rd parties from their system. This is mainly a result of Nintendo games being too good. Glitches are hard to find on Nintendo games, camera angles are normally as good as they get. If I had a nickle for everytime I got annoyed at the camera in sonic adventure, I would have a lot of nickles, and yet I never remember such frustration in say ocarina of time, a game before Sonic Adventure. Some Nintendo games have become a formula, but at the same time Nintendo has been the company behind most major advancements in anything with gaming. Do some things fail? Yes but somethings revolutionize the industry. From the first 3d console games, to the D pad, to their new controller (that both other companies are copying fyi).

This brings me to Miyamoto, he is a man I idolize, he is still young at heart over so many years and still occasionally gets out an amazing and new game. Pikmin was amazing! It was just soo much fun for me, and it was done in a fairly creative style. He made entire worlds of intrigue with characters as memorable as Micky Mouse if not more so.

By no means does it mean it is always at the top nor always makes the right ideas, the point is they know when to adapt something new. That is why they survive and still have profits out the wazoo. Yes they keep making new games that seem to copy old ones of theirs rather often, but every so often a game sparks into existence from them that changes the face of gaming. Lately a lot of repeats are because they sell extremely well among a demographic they finally got gaming. They expanded their base and yes it has upset those who claim to be "hard core", but they will return because soon their new demographic will also be "hard core", and then that will be what is profitable for them again.
Nice. I wish I was as good with words as some people... ._.
 
Rawburt said:
Sporge27 said:
OOOOOOOOOOOOhhhh I found a new one, PS3 and Wii make it to the last round... xbox dies in round 1.... :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDZ9pSymsMs
Yeah, both Sony and Nintendo have pretty good hardware, Microsoft, not at all.
They should've just kept it in beta for another year and got all the bugs out before release. :/
 
Tyeforce said:
Jak said:
Tyeforce said:
You guys are missing the point of this... I wasn't trying to say "Nintendo is best, period, end of discussion, don't talk to me." I was just pointing out an article that tells the greatness of Nintendo, since there seem to be so many Nintendo basher here (ironically, at an Animal Crossing forum >_>). Obviously, in my opinion, Nintendo will always be the greatest video game company to me. And the author of the article agrees. But that's not the point. The point was to point out the differences between Nintendo and the other companies when it comes to things like having the most successful franchises, more durable hardware, reviving the video game industry (you wouldn't have your Xboxes and PlayStations if it weren't for Nintendo), appeal to all ages, and developing new, fun, innovative ways to play.
If the crap Ninty's shoveling out is "innovative" and "fun", I'll take rehashed and boring any day.
It is innovative and fun. >_> Maybe it's not for everyone, but I'll admit that I've had more fun with the Wii than any other console. Using motion controls is so much more fun than just pressing buttons.
Prove your statement, please. =P
I've had little to no fun on the Wii, and it's not all that innovative if they have to keep shoveling out attachments to make up for its shortcomings.
 
That's nice. Nintendo has great first party games.... And that's it. I don't want to buy thousands of add-ons to play certain games(Except the GH/RB games I suppose), I don't want to buy separate Nintendo Points cards to buy stuff on the Wii and DSi(seriously, what the hell. I can add funds via my PSP and use them on the PS3 and viceversa), and I don't want to use the Wiimotes if the motions I do, don't really matter.

Yeah, we gotta give them credit for saving video games back in the 80's. We gotta give them credit for not release a *censored.2.0*ton of trailers, images and whatnot of their games to the point where when I play, I already know how it ends and the surprises are less amazing(MW2 Captain Price is still alive anyone?). But Ninty needs to step up it's game. I don't want to buy thousands of SD Cards for games, separate points cards, and other things just to play stuff. I want hard drives, universal online accounts like the PSN, and the option to play things with classic controllers instead of the Wiimote.
 
Jak said:
Tyeforce said:
Jak said:
Tyeforce said:
You guys are missing the point of this... I wasn't trying to say "Nintendo is best, period, end of discussion, don't talk to me." I was just pointing out an article that tells the greatness of Nintendo, since there seem to be so many Nintendo basher here (ironically, at an Animal Crossing forum >_>). Obviously, in my opinion, Nintendo will always be the greatest video game company to me. And the author of the article agrees. But that's not the point. The point was to point out the differences between Nintendo and the other companies when it comes to things like having the most successful franchises, more durable hardware, reviving the video game industry (you wouldn't have your Xboxes and PlayStations if it weren't for Nintendo), appeal to all ages, and developing new, fun, innovative ways to play.
If the crap Ninty's shoveling out is "innovative" and "fun", I'll take rehashed and boring any day.
It is innovative and fun. >_> Maybe it's not for everyone, but I'll admit that I've had more fun with the Wii than any other console. Using motion controls is so much more fun than just pressing buttons.
Prove your statement, please. =P
I've had little to no fun on the Wii, and it's not all that innovative if they have to keep shoveling out attachments to make up for its shortcomings.
Tyeforce said:
It is innovative and fun. >_> Maybe it's not for everyone, but I'll admit that I've had more fun with the Wii than any other console. Using motion controls is so much more fun than just pressing buttons.
I didn't say it would be for everyone. People have different preferences in gaming. Some people would rather press buttons than swing a remote. I have no idea why, but I can respect their preferences. And not all games on Wii use motion control, you know. Brawl is a great example. And there's New Super Mario Bros. Wii, which used limited motion control. But I honestly don't understand how people can find it more fun to just press buttons than to actually get into the game, besides just personal preference with no real reason other than "I just don't like it" (not that that's a bad thing, it just doesn't make sense to me). I feel more connected to the game if I'm doing more than just pressing buttons. Of course, I have no problem with button pressing, and I think the combination of button pressing and motion control or touch screen works very well, but the same old input gets really old after awhile. It's nice that the Wii changed things up, as well as the DS before it. I know it's more fun to me, and tons of other people share the same feeling. And as for the attachments, I don't know why you're singling out Nintendo, because Sony and Microsoft are doing the same thing with Natal and the PS3 *censored.8.7* Wand. Wii MotionPlus technology wasn't available to them at the time of the Wii's release. You can't blame them for not making something they couldn't make in the first place. Better late than never, right?
 
Tyeforce said:
Jak said:
Tyeforce said:
Jak said:
Tyeforce said:
You guys are missing the point of this... I wasn't trying to say "Nintendo is best, period, end of discussion, don't talk to me." I was just pointing out an article that tells the greatness of Nintendo, since there seem to be so many Nintendo basher here (ironically, at an Animal Crossing forum >_>). Obviously, in my opinion, Nintendo will always be the greatest video game company to me. And the author of the article agrees. But that's not the point. The point was to point out the differences between Nintendo and the other companies when it comes to things like having the most successful franchises, more durable hardware, reviving the video game industry (you wouldn't have your Xboxes and PlayStations if it weren't for Nintendo), appeal to all ages, and developing new, fun, innovative ways to play.
If the crap Ninty's shoveling out is "innovative" and "fun", I'll take rehashed and boring any day.
It is innovative and fun. >_> Maybe it's not for everyone, but I'll admit that I've had more fun with the Wii than any other console. Using motion controls is so much more fun than just pressing buttons.
Prove your statement, please. =P
I've had little to no fun on the Wii, and it's not all that innovative if they have to keep shoveling out attachments to make up for its shortcomings.
Tyeforce said:
It is innovative and fun. >_> Maybe it's not for everyone, but I'll admit that I've had more fun with the Wii than any other console. Using motion controls is so much more fun than just pressing buttons.
I didn't say it would be for everyone. People have different preferences in gaming. Some people would rather press buttons than swing a remote. I have no idea why, but I can respect their preferences. And not all games on Wii use motion control, you know. Brawl is a great example. And there's New Super Mario Bros. Wii, which used limited motion control. But I honestly don't understand how people can find it more fun to just press buttons than to actually get into the game, besides just personal preference with no real reason other than "I just don't like it" (not that that's a bad thing, it just doesn't make sense to me). I feel more connected to the game if I'm doing more than just pressing buttons. Of course, I have no problem with button pressing, and I think the combination of button pressing and motion control or touch screen works very well, but the same old input gets really old after awhile. It's nice that the Wii changed things up, as well as the DS before it. I know it's more fun to me, and tons of other people share the same feeling. And as for the attachments, I don't know why you're singling out Nintendo, because Sony and Microsoft are doing the same thing with Natal and the PS3 *censored.8.7* Wand. Wii MotionPlus technology wasn't available to them at the time of the Wii's release. You can't blame them for not making something they couldn't make in the first place. Better late than never, right?
PS2, Playstation Eye. It beat the Wii in Motion crap, beat Natal(Which by the way, Nintendo was supposedly offered but they turned it down[Idiots]) and needs no wand thing. The games sucked and weren't the greatest at respondingeverything, but it beat them both.
 
Tom said:
Tyeforce said:
Jak said:
Tyeforce said:
Jak said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deepmy opinion, Nintendo will always be the greatest video game company to me
It is innovative and fun. >_> Maybe it's not for everyone, but I'll admit that I've had more fun with the Wii than any other console. Using motion controls is so much more fun than just pressing buttons.
Prove your statement, please. =P
I've had little to no fun on the Wii, and it's not all that innovative if they have to keep shoveling out attachments to make up for its shortcomings.
Tyeforce said:
It is innovative and fun. >_> Maybe it's not for everyone, but I'll admit that I've had more fun with the Wii than any other console. Using motion controls is so much more fun than just pressing buttons.
I didn't say it would be for everyone. People have different preferences in gaming. Some people would rather press buttons than swing a remote. I have no idea why, but I can respect their preferences. And not all games on Wii use motion control, you know. Brawl is a great example. And there's New Super Mario Bros. Wii, which used limited motion control. But I honestly don't understand how people can find it more fun to just press buttons than to actually get into the game, besides just personal preference with no real reason other than "I just don't like it" (not that that's a bad thing, it just doesn't make sense to me). I feel more connected to the game if I'm doing more than just pressing buttons. Of course, I have no problem with button pressing, and I think the combination of button pressing and motion control or touch screen works very well, but the same old input gets really old after awhile. It's nice that the Wii changed things up, as well as the DS before it. I know it's more fun to me, and tons of other people share the same feeling. And as for the attachments, I don't know why you're singling out Nintendo, because Sony and Microsoft are doing the same thing with Natal and the PS3 *censored.8.7* Wand. Wii MotionPlus technology wasn't available to them at the time of the Wii's release. You can't blame them for not making something they couldn't make in the first place. Better late than never, right?
PS2, Playstation Eye. It beat the Wii in Motion crap, beat Natal(Which by the way, Nintendo was supposedly offered but they turned it down[Idiots]) and needs no wand thing. The games sucked and weren't the greatest at respondingeverything, but it beat them both.
Why do you say that, other than personal preference? It certainly didn't sell even remotely as well as the Wii is, and you even admitted that the games weren't the greatest. And the reason why Nintendo turned down a Natal-like idea was because they didn't believe that they would be able to sell it at an affordable price, and that it wasn't the direction they wanted to go, and I don't blame them. Playing a game with no controller? It seems interesting, but I need something to physically hold to connect me with the game. Actually holding a Wii Wheel is better than "pretending" to hold a steering wheel. Actually slashing a remote like a sword is better than "pretending" to hold and slash one. How would you like to play Guitar Hero with an air guitar? Doesn't sound so fun, does it? But of course, this is just my opinion. But I think that many people will try Natal and find that it just isn't the same as holding a controller in your hands. Nintendo likes to try new things, but they still stick to traditional ways. That's why they made the Wii Remote able to be turned on its side to play like an classic NES controller, and it works very well in games like Super Paper Mario. And it's also why they're sticking with buttons and motion control, but not completely eliminating the controller.
 
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