Anime good or bad?

[LyraVale]

I love it, but I never seem to like the ones that other people like.

For example, I like the style of animation in K-On or Princess Tutu. But most anime fans find those too cutesy, I think, or they just don't think those are cool. I like some of the more realistic looking ones too, like Nana or Kimi Ni Todoke...but again, those aren't cool ones.

Basically, I love anime, but I'm not crazy about anime fans...they tend to be really judgey and make you feel like if you don't like the "right" ones, you're not cool enough to talk about anime.

 

[Dae Min]

Usagi what did they do to you D8

 

[LambdaDelta]

I'm trying to debate, not argue. It'd make sense to put examples of graphic quality wouldn't it?

Not really, no. Because that just leads into people cherry-picking specific things to tilt in their favor, as opposed to looking at the whole of it.

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For example, I like the style of animation in K-On

But KyoAni ruined anime!!!!

 

[spCrossing]

Usagi what did they do to you D8

A lot of things really

Episode 3 is such a glorious hilarious masterpiece.

 

[LambdaDelta]

Episode 3 is such a glorious hilarious masterpiece.

Have you actually watched/been watching Crystal?

I'm sorry.

 

[Dae Min]

GaH that's awful!! The giant foreheads of doom

This reminds me of the first few episodes of Dramatical Murder. Apparently they were so bad, the animators completely redid them

 

[spCrossing]

Have you actually watched/been watching Crystal?

I'm sorry.

Yeah, I've been watching it since it premiered during the Summer.

It's bad, but I can at least laugh at it with the whole animation thing.

 

[Horus]

It's not a competition, I was just showing how easily you can use bias to make something look bad, just like you were doing. Besides, the Metalocalypse picture still looks way more awesome than what you posted in my opinion.


And yes, I do want to use Metalocalypse as an example. Or do you have an issue with me liking a certain show?
Not that the show is even relevant considering it was the image that was the focus, not whether or not you like the show. Please, use real arguments rather than a straw man.

As I said before, I like anime, I just have an issue with people 'proving things' with ignorant, selective and biased reasoning.

Then your opinion is biased and honestly wrong. In terms of quality, the gif I posted, from an anime I haven't even watched, is better. And more realistic which is why I posted it in the first place.

I never said whether I like Metalocalypse or not. I asked if you really want to use that as an example considering it's an M rated show and it'd be like me bringing up something like Queen's Blade, an entirely ecchi show.

Lastly, I'm not using a Strawman argument,you just don't understand my argument.

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Not really, no. Because that just leads into people cherry-picking specific things to tilt in their favor, as opposed to looking at the whole of it.

Skyhook's reason for calling anime bad was whether or not the animation was realistic or not. So yeah, that's what I used in response. Read the argument if you're going to complain about it.

 

[LyraVale]

But KyoAni ruined anime!!!!

Oh actually, thanks, I know that's not what you meant, but it made me realize it was a good way to find other animes I might like. I didn't even think of checking to see what else they made. I loved Tamako Market also. XD

 

[LambdaDelta]

Skyhook's reason for calling anime bad was whether or not the animation was realistic or not. So yeah, that's what I used in response. Read the argument if you're going to complain about it.

I did read it, and I still say its piss-poor.

 

[Horus]

I did read it, and I still say its piss-poor.

Ok. Well when arguing quality of the artwork, screencaps of said art are the best way to do it.

 

[LambdaDelta]

Ok. Well when arguing quality of the artwork, screencaps of said art are the best way to do it.

If you're arguing specific scenes, sure.

But production as a whole? looool, no



Regardless though, its still cherry-picking to suit your needs.

 

[Horus]

If you're arguing specific scenes, sure.

But production as a whole? looool, no



Regardless though, its still cherry-picking to suit your needs.

Well ok. lol. I wasn't the one who picked the graphic argument

 

[Tao]

Then your opinion is biased and honestly wrong. In terms of quality, the gif I posted, from an anime I haven't even watched, is better. And more realistic which is why I posted it in the first place.

I never said whether I like Metalocalypse or not. I asked if you really want to use that as an example considering it's an M rated show and it'd be like me bringing up something like Queen's Blade, an entirely ecchi show.

My opinion can't be 'wrong', that isn't how opinions work. I guess that statement alone shows me what kind of person I'm 'debating' with if you're trying to call my opinion factually wrong and honestly, I'm stopping after this reply since I don't see the point in doing so with that type of reply. It feels like I'm on the youtube comment threads.


It also shouldn't matter whether or not it's M rated or not. Again, it was the image I was referencing, nothing else is important to that. If the image itself was M rated for some reason then yea, maybe it wouldn't have been the best considering the website but that's literally the only reason it would make a difference. It sounds more like you're a bit disappointed since somebody came up with an artistically good looking image from Western animation when you were expecting Dexter's Lab to be the pinnacle.


The point still stands, despite your obvious bias, neither is better than the other. There's bad examples and good examples of both. Opinions are fine, stating them as facts and backing them up with selectively chosen evidence is not.

 

[Geoni]

the things yall argue about smh

 

[LambdaDelta]

Oh actually, thanks, I know that's not what you meant, but it made me realize it was a good way to find other animes I might like. I didn't even think of checking to see what else they made. I loved Tamako Market also. XD

Speaking seriously, yeah. KyoAni is pretty great.

They aren't without their faults (Chu2Ren as probably the biggest one), but I think one big thing that helps them is that they're among the only studios (and the only mainly TV production studio I can think of) that chooses what they want to animate vs being contracted. Which leads to a lot more care being put into their work usually. In addition to them generally being good about scheduling, so that they don't need to outsource as much or anything. Plus they are just super great at conveying emotional subtleties and have among the most consistently gorgeous animation on a show-by-show basis.

The only other studio I bother paying attention to now as a studio, and may generally try out stuff blind from, is SHAFT. But in that case its not me liking SHAFT as a studio, but rather me liking Akiyuki Shinbo as a director.

 

[Horus]

My opinion can't be 'wrong', that isn't how opinions work. I guess that statement alone shows me what kind of person I'm 'debating' with if you're trying to call my opinion factually wrong and honestly, I'm stopping after this reply since I don't see the point in doing so with that type of reply. It feels like I'm on the youtube comment threads.


It also shouldn't matter whether or not it's M rated or not. Again, it was the image I was referencing, nothing else is important to that. If the image itself was M rated for some reason then yea, maybe it wouldn't have been the best considering the website but that's literally the only reason it would make a difference. It sounds more like you're a bit disappointed since somebody came up with an artistically good looking image from Western animation when you were expecting Dexter's Lab to be the pinnacle.


The point still stands, despite your obvious bias, neither is better than the other. There's bad examples and good examples of both. Opinions are fine, stating them as facts and backing them up with selectively chosen evidence is not.

Oh my god are you salty. In terms of graphical standpoint; the gif I posted was better. Go ask a Photoshop teacher if that's what you want and if you like your picture of clouds, that's fine, so be it, think that way, I really don't care.

I was only warning you about using Metalocalypse as an example. That's it.

To recap:

My opinion can't be 'wrong', that isn't how opinions work.

Ok you can like it better than my gif if you want.

It sounds more like you're a bit disappointed since somebody came up with an artistically good looking image from Western animation when you were expecting Dexter's Lab to be the pinnacle.

It's fine but the gif I posted was better, it probably cost 10x as much to develop the artwork in the gif I used than that of Metalocalypse. Do you understand?

 

[spCrossing]

the things yall argue about smh

Your avatar perfectly fits with that comment.

 

[LambdaDelta]

Do you understand?

>not posting:

for shame

 

[ToxiFoxy]

I love anime personally -end of story-