BetsySundrop
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On my list to look at anyway, so will do.
I do have a foil making unravel hard town, but will look.
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On my list to look at anyway, so will do.
I do have a foil making unravel hard town, but will look.
These users I would like for you to explain more in depth; Lily especially. Are you simply null on her or what's going on?
Also, "beacon of towniness but probably the deep wolf" for the player you replaced isn't really telling much.
ribbitribbon
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the likelihood is just that at least one of these are maf since they were all fossed
but i’m struggling with teams now that dino got a green check (gf dino would be super weird im not even looking into that)
poor ender’s joke will never land
FrostyAlmonds
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NGL, the way you're ripping apart Ribbit's wall is EXACTLY why I didn't waste my time building a case on Dolby-- my evidence was literally gut feeling leading to a PR check. There was zero chance I wasn't letting Dolby go yesterday so I was gonna out myself no matter what (notice I had that post prepared and posted it immedietly after Shiny said I sounded like a cop?). Though, instead of saying, 'hey guys, I'm cop and I got a red check on Dolby' I decided to see if I can bait out any info by playing around.
IDK, you clearly have this thing against reaction testing considering you're complaining that both Trundle and I have done it this game, and I don't quite get why. It's a valid strategy to gain information, I like to look for behavioual changes, or lack there of. But honestly, doesn't matter, I think we have more important things to worry about (finding maf)
FWIW, you voting me isn't even something I found suspicious. Though you being so adament on me being maf for saying 'cop softed to me=trust me bro' but then as soon as I outted you just replied with an oh and seemed to instantly accept it. Like, Trundle thought I was lying about my cop claim after that post and needed convincing to vote Dolby (and STILL thought he was gonna flip town).
(but for real pot calling kettle black when Trundle is out there reaction testing + giving off major maffy behaviour but apparently I'm not allowed to lmao)
Welcome Ender. Already know you're gonna be fun.
You didn't but you also a) didn't acknowledge that I was cop b) said Dolby slipped. Dolby never slipped, I caught him and he started spewing. I see you're dodging answering me about if you thought Dolby was framed.
also you're doing it again, where did Mog and Unravel come from, what happened to Ribbit?
Mog and Unravel weren't on your maf leaning list in your og post (especially mog who you said was innocent), please communicate why you're suddenly maf leaning them.
I'd like to hear it.
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Not weird that he would focus on TN4U considering he was my maf push Day 1 and onward, and, Dolby was very adamant to TR me near instantly and stay on my good side.
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Oh yeah, also why this?
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BetsySundrop
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It's a secret wifom I'm trapped in. Either 100% town or 100% maf.
But i will say outside the foil, it sucks to be a diff time zone and i could see how it would be hard for unravel to have a lot of interactions, esp at eod when you sleep through the insanity (lucky
).Unravel voted tn4u yesterday before signing off to sleep, and again today. So it's consistent. And I do sus tn4u. Waiting to see post from unravel later.
I suck at communication. I wish people could just read my mind.
voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
im not gonna explain again why i didn't like trundle reaction test. what happened yesterday with you had nothing to do with that.NGL, the way you're ripping apart Ribbit's wall is EXACTLY why I didn't waste my time building a case on Dolby-- my evidence was literally gut feeling leading to a PR check. There was zero chance I wasn't letting Dolby go yesterday so I was gonna out myself no matter what (notice I had that post prepared and posted it immedietly after Shiny said I sounded like a cop?). Though, instead of saying, 'hey guys, I'm cop and I got a red check on Dolby' I decided to see if I can bait out any info by playing around.
IDK, you clearly have this thing against reaction testing considering you're complaining that both Trundle and I have done it this game, and I don't quite get why. It's a valid strategy to gain information, I like to look for behavioual changes, or lack there of. But honestly, doesn't matter, I think we have more important things to worry about (finding maf)
FWIW, you voting me isn't even something I found suspicious. Though you being so adament on me being maf for saying 'cop softed to me=trust me bro' but then as soon as I outted you just replied with an oh and seemed to instantly accept it. Like, Trundle thought I was lying about my cop claim after that post and needed convincing to vote Dolby (and STILL thought he was gonna flip town).
(but for real pot calling kettle black when Trundle is out there reaction testing + giving off major maffy behaviour but apparently I'm not allowed to lmao)
Welcome Ender. Already know you're gonna be fun.
You didn't but you also a) didn't acknowledge that I was cop b) said Dolby slipped. Dolby never slipped, I caught him and he started spewing. I see you're dodging answering me about if you thought Dolby was framed.
also you're doing it again, where did Mog and Unravel come from, what happened to Ribbit?
Mog and Unravel weren't on your maf leaning list in your og post (especially mog who you said was innocent), please communicate why you're suddenly maf leaning them.
I'd like to hear it.
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Not weird that he would focus on TN4U considering he was my maf push Day 1 and onward, and, Dolby was very adamant to TR me near instantly and stay on my good side.
you claimed someone softed a red check to you:
1) this needs a lot of coordination. me and dan needed like 5 posts to finally understand each other and the message was just "im doc"
2) if the cop softed to you, they didn't want to claim. you saying the cop softed was forcing cop to claim
3) you refused any questioning and we couldnt argue abt it whatsoever. hence "trust me bro"
i feel like i had my reasons to think this was all sketchy.
"you clearly are against reaction test" i am not. remember you did a reaction test on zinnia and i called your townie for that? you think i dont like reaction test intrinsically when i have my reason for these two specific cases
you thinking it's weird for me to immediately turn when you claim is because you just don't understand my thought process. i didn't think you were cop, i thought you were baiting cop out and you were discouraging town discussion. this is all anti-town. as soon as you claim you are cop, this all crumbles. if you want to say im dumb for not seeing that you were cop sooner, feel free to do so
"(but for real pot calling kettle black when Trundle is out there reaction testing + giving off major maffy behaviour but apparently I'm not allowed to lmao)"
i have no idea what this means
anyhow i just woke up
FrostyAlmonds
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It's a secret wifom I'm trapped in. Either 100% town or 100% maf.
But i will say outside the foil, it sucks to be a diff time zone and i could see how it would be hard for unravel to have a lot of interactions, esp at eod when you sleep through the insanity (lucky
Unravel voted tn4u yesterday before signing off to sleep, and again today. So it's consistent. And I do sus tn4u. Waiting to see post from unravel later.
I suck at communication. I wish people could just read my mind.
Noted but now I'd like to look for it for reasons.
Green: Okay but you don't know the context of when/how cop softed to me, why do you think I got it right away and there wasn't some back and forth going on???? It's not like I pointed you in a direction and said, cop softed to me here in this single post, I simply said cop softed to me and left it openended, you made assumptions. And again, I did NOT think you were maf for finding me being sketchy and voting for me.
Blue: I never said you were dumb, nor did I say anything along the lines of 'well everyone else got it' for you to get this impression. I said it was odd you didn't even raise an eyebrow and consider that I lied and faked those softs to do a fake cop call from the start--especially now that you're admitting you thought I was baiting out the actual cop originally. I know you took my asking to be maf read to be wine, but I've been begging for those maf reads so town will have something to look into if I die (especially night 1 when all you had on me was everyone TRed me and I suspected TN4U). We've never played before, we don't know each others meta, I've already acknowledged that I don't think we think the same way so yes, I agree, I don't know your thought process. This is why I'm pointing things out I'm not understanding so I can learn it and (hopefully) settle my doubts about you as maf. I would never call you dumb personally, especially in a game that revolves around manipulation, please don't assume these things.
purple: Sorry that part was directed at Trundle,
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(and I only brought up about Shiny getting it because she called it out and that's why I dropped the act and just outted then and there, it wasn't a 'well Shiny got it why didn't you?')
voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
because there was no back and forth lolNoted but now I'd like to look for it for reasons.
Green: Okay but you don't know the context of when/how cop softed to me, why do you think I got it right away and there wasn't some back and forth going on???? It's not like I pointed you in a direction and said, cop softed to me here in this single post, I simply said cop softed to me and left it openended, you made assumptions. And again, I did NOT think you were maf for finding me being sketchy and voting for me.
Blue: I never said you were dumb, nor did I say anything along the lines of 'well everyone else got it' for you to get this impression. I said it was odd you didn't even raise an eyebrow and consider that I lied and faked those softs to do a fake cop call from the start--especially now that you're admitting you thought I was baiting out the actual cop originally. I know you took my asking to be maf read to be wine, but I've been begging for those maf reads so town will have something to look into if I die (especially night 1 when all you had on me was everyone TRed me and I suspected TN4U). We've never played before, we don't know each others meta, I've already acknowledged that I don't think we think the same way so yes, I agree, I don't know your thought process. This is why I'm pointing things out I'm not understanding so I can learn it and (hopefully) settle my doubts about you as maf. I would never call you dumb personally, especially in a game that revolves around manipulation, please don't assume these things.
purple: Sorry that part was directed at Trundle,
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(and I only brought up about Shiny getting it because she called it out and that's why I dropped the act and just outted then and there, it wasn't a 'well Shiny got it why didn't you?')
im just gonna die on this hill anyways so regardless of that im just explaining why i dont think trundle and yours case was similar at all
just to clarify that i dont think you called me dumb. im just stating that in fact i have no idea that you were the cop and maybe you might find that jarring so you are free to think its dumb KEK
and yeah i think your wine makes a lot of sense now
moving on im currently looking at dolbys and ness' legacy while i wait my food and ill compile everything on one post bc people prefer that
BetsySundrop
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Noted but now I'd like to look for it for reasons.
Yes, it's interesting. If I'm right after game I'll say what it was. If wrong, I'll still say what is was and how i got there. Probably wrong.
The shiny slot is odd to me. Hope ender comes in with help on that one.
And reading eod, Dolby was so dirty trying to out people. I hope the graveyard is a desolate, itemless wasteland.
FrostyAlmonds
Senior Member
Fair enough, Trundle just boasts his meta is acting maffy even as town, where my whole game was to suddenly flip to acting maffy to see how people would react My results, I feel most people ignored it
, you had what I felt was an overall townie drooping fear, Radical and Trundle tried to point fingers, and Dolby (aka our confirmed maf), was like nah she's making weird takes but still town. It's something we can analyse now. If you didn't like my actions I respect that, but I personally think it was helpful to me. Speaking of,, @BetsySundrop I wanna know why you went along and voted Dolby before the real claim.
BetsySundrop
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Fair enough, Trundle just boasts his meta is acting maffy even as town, where my whole game was to suddenly flip to acting maffy to see how people would react My results, I feel most people ignored it
Speaking of,, @BetsySundrop I wanna know why you went along and voted Dolby before the real claim.
I had already had dolby on a maf team with dolby/tn4u/ and ness or trundle. When you first put out dolby/maf, i posted my reasons for dolbytown and dolbywolf.
The one thing that held me back was my take on his read switches d1 to d2. Sudden switches, so i thought either maf targeting or cop with bad info (the frame). So waited to see more.
But- when you said what if someone softed to you about dolby being red check i was like, say no more! A poss redcheck and my own sus on him, that was enough for me to vote him. Only became more obvious as the day went on.
ribbitribbon
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FWIW, you voting me isn't even something I found suspicious. Though you being so adament on me being maf for saying 'cop softed to me=trust me bro' but then as soon as I outted you just replied with an oh and seemed to instantly accept it. Like, Trundle thought I was lying about my cop claim after that post and needed convincing to vote Dolby (and STILL thought he was gonna flip town).
i was gonna mention this
here is ness’ read list:
i’m ngl i have lost a bit of motivation for this and im not sure where to start todayI’m about go golfing with my best friend, this is probably the last you’ll hear from me this phase. Don’t do anything crazy like switch off Dolby last second, he’s lying about being doctor. Radical or TN4U is the next two slots to look into. @FrostyAlmonds take my advice and investigate who you want, the framer has a low chance of picking the same person as you (famous last words for Dolby lol)
Peace and love
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i think if we don’t flip one of mogyay/trundle/unravel slots today there are just going to be too many question marks
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voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
the general gist of dolby is this
town: betsy, frosty, trundle, me, unravel
hes very null on annika and flip flops a lot abt this slot, this should be worth look into and ill check her next
he says that mog is TR just because of the reactions to her slot during trundle reaction test and hardly gives any insight into the actual slot
dolby never had strong opinions on radical either, yet said they were wolfy on one of his last reads posts (after he claimed doc). said that he would ISO radical, never did. feels like distancing
dolby rejected the notion that his push on ribbit was to save tn4u. he did so by telling ness that tn4u was never a wagon. like annika, hes wishy washy abt this slot
i think looking into his town/wolf leans gets me stuck in wine hell so i want to check for the nulls
town: betsy, frosty, trundle, me, unravel
hes very null on annika and flip flops a lot abt this slot, this should be worth look into and ill check her next
he says that mog is TR just because of the reactions to her slot during trundle reaction test and hardly gives any insight into the actual slot
dolby never had strong opinions on radical either, yet said they were wolfy on one of his last reads posts (after he claimed doc). said that he would ISO radical, never did. feels like distancing
dolby rejected the notion that his push on ribbit was to save tn4u. he did so by telling ness that tn4u was never a wagon. like annika, hes wishy washy abt this slot
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how do you feel abt annika?
i think looking into his town/wolf leans gets me stuck in wine hell so i want to check for the nulls
ribbitribbon
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nothing about her feels off to me but ender said the opposite so i think it’s worth going back on
i do remember brining up a specific line to dolby about when she popped in and said frosty was towny and he said that it felt wolfy but would consider
i couldn’t find the interaction yet but i did find this stuff which makes me think on a different note dolby had in advance prepared to claim doc on trundle:
i’m gonna keep looking for that specific interaction
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BetsySundrop
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You think dolby had me town?
FrostyAlmonds
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bolded part. WHAT. A. MOOD.
Could I interest you in looking at TN4U as well. I really hate that I didn't push very hard for eliming him day 1.
Yeah this is definitely something to keep in mind. I'm pretty sure Radical came up at all from him EOD is because of me calling mafia
(this one is irrelevant imo but for the sake of not picking and choosing since this is still related to us talking abt Radical)
Also unrelated but I saw this while looking for these posts, I don't see anyone talking about Volt at all here so this was really out of nowhere.
Also also, I think Annika shouldn't be a big priority today.
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IIRC there were two instances where Dolby said the maf team was Betsyx4.
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Oh nvm about volt being out of nowhere, Ribbit was talking about it.
voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
when i originally read it i felt it was just him being busy but it does seem that way. do you think is better for town trundle?
and yeah that interaction you pointed out pings me as him refusing to give a concrete thoughts on annika
regardless i still sheep jacob's read on annika being town
i dont think it was?
yeah thats true its my b
