I feel you! Yesterday I went to 30 islands to get a dreamie ( Judy, Fuchsia or Olivia) and I found 5-6 repeats damn it! Only saw one cat (Bob), passed him over since I was looking for either a normal or a dreamie. And I only found 2 normals in 30 islands??? Lots of elephants and birds.
A day spent island hopping and I'm crushed
- Thread starter RenaiRider
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I feel you too! I had twenty tickets and spent the evening island hopping and bumping into mostly birds, which along with mice is my least favourite species in the game. I even met the loathsome Anchovy on tarantula island.
This morning, I woke up to a sold plot with Yuka's name in it. Ah well, time to fish out my amiibo cards. Yuka will be toast in two days.
This morning, I woke up to a sold plot with Yuka's name in it. Ah well, time to fish out my amiibo cards. Yuka will be toast in two days.
Underneath The Stars
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the way that i want NONE of those villagers aside from bluebear and hamlet omg (i have lyman already tho)
yeah there has to be a rarity pool that's a factor
i come to island tours with an open mind and STILL it's more likely i'll meet villagers i don't care for (maybe for about 60 tickets wasted). i'm not even that specific, let's say i have 7 dreamies i want to move in, that's low but my back up/villagers i'd want to meet is probably around 30. so there has to be some form of rarity percentages because even by creatures--cubs, squirrels (the cute ones) & cats are hard to come by. i always see pigs, chickens and gorillas, which happens to be very unpopular.
for some reason tho, octopi always appearing despite being used to be rare.
yeah there has to be a rarity pool that's a factor
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i come to island tours with an open mind and STILL it's more likely i'll meet villagers i don't care for (maybe for about 60 tickets wasted). i'm not even that specific, let's say i have 7 dreamies i want to move in, that's low but my back up/villagers i'd want to meet is probably around 30. so there has to be some form of rarity percentages because even by creatures--cubs, squirrels (the cute ones) & cats are hard to come by. i always see pigs, chickens and gorillas, which happens to be very unpopular.
for some reason tho, octopi always appearing despite being used to be rare.
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I ended up with a long hunt of about ~400 tickets tonight. I saw multiple duplicates. By far my most seen villager had to be Erik and Bam at 5+ times.
Out of the 400+ islands I did today these are the villagers I can recall I saw more than once off the top of my head: Marina, Bam, Erik, Audie and Sherb. I had the occasional one off villager that stood out: Ketchup, Stitches, Ankha and Marshal (who I ended up with because it was near 5am).
Those account for maybe ~30 tickets at most when I reflect back on it. The ~350 tickets remaining I honestly couldn't tell you who I ran into. Most of the time I saw it wasn't who I wanted and ignored them. All in all, people have a tendency of selective memory especially when you're doing a task such as island hopping. The encounter rate seemed about right given that I was 400 in. If you make it several hundred tickets deep your duplicate rate is going to be near 80%+. It's just the way probability works.
Also no, I did not encounter Judy or Raymond. But my top 3 were Judy, Raymond and Marshal so I'm not too mad about it.
Out of the 400+ islands I did today these are the villagers I can recall I saw more than once off the top of my head: Marina, Bam, Erik, Audie and Sherb. I had the occasional one off villager that stood out: Ketchup, Stitches, Ankha and Marshal (who I ended up with because it was near 5am).
Those account for maybe ~30 tickets at most when I reflect back on it. The ~350 tickets remaining I honestly couldn't tell you who I ran into. Most of the time I saw it wasn't who I wanted and ignored them. All in all, people have a tendency of selective memory especially when you're doing a task such as island hopping. The encounter rate seemed about right given that I was 400 in. If you make it several hundred tickets deep your duplicate rate is going to be near 80%+. It's just the way probability works.
Also no, I did not encounter Judy or Raymond. But my top 3 were Judy, Raymond and Marshal so I'm not too mad about it.
The thing is, that is RNG working without any intervention. Spotify for example doesn't play songs genuinely randomly, because otherwise you'd often listen to the same songs twice in a row. But as a music streaming service it does factor in your preferences and what you skip often.
So it's obvious that Nintendo didn't prevent the same villager from showing up twice in a row, and it's reasonable to think that they didn't add every single villager to the pool. Or maybe they give each villager a rarity and some can only show up once in a 100 tries? But real RNG just sucks because it's truly random, you might as well just get villager 35 three times in a row and after that villager 26 four times as well.
So it's obvious that Nintendo didn't prevent the same villager from showing up twice in a row, and it's reasonable to think that they didn't add every single villager to the pool. Or maybe they give each villager a rarity and some can only show up once in a 100 tries? But real RNG just sucks because it's truly random, you might as well just get villager 35 three times in a row and after that villager 26 four times as well.
The main problem is I don't believe Nintendo ever intended everyone to go mad and start farming NMTs all day and grinding Islands all for 1 (or more) specific villagers. It was just meant to be a simple mechanic where you visit the islands for resources, and meet a new face and potentially invite them to your island that you built and are building.
sicklewillow
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I would like to believe so but the requirements to have an open plot seems to indicate otherwise. If they intend what you have said, why are there no villager on island if you have a full town or doesn't have an open plot like the campsite. :/
Underneath The Stars
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i wanna ask this too.
and i find it hard to believe that nintendo is not aware of the sought after villagers, or did not see the foreseeable effect of people trying to look for their favorite villagers.
sicklewillow
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I don't know... People do have preference... why do they need to control who the player want in their own island?
For example, I really like Raymond, Kid Cat and Marshal because I like their design, not because they're popular.
For example, I really like Raymond, Kid Cat and Marshal because I like their design, not because they're popular.
RomanRichter
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Just a theory: Maybe this is also made to endorse online and amiibos, slightly? (and endorsed ebay bandwagon as result)
You know the way today AAA company do shady stuff: Create a problem, Sale you Solution.
You know the way today AAA company do shady stuff: Create a problem, Sale you Solution.
just skimming through this it seems like people all get different duplicates frequently (apart from the weirdly common octopi..?) For me its Marina, Apollo and some others i can't remember right now that I see a ton, but I also think it could just be coincidence.
And yeah as someone who has gone through probably 400+ tickets and has yet to find the last two I'm really searching for, I can say its discouraging, but I don't think its unfair. I'm much more happy with being able to search for my villagers like this rather than how it was in new leaf where I would pretty much assume I had to buy a villager off someone to obtain it. I like being able to know if I farm long enough I'll find them, and even when I'm getting what I feel like is a ton of duplicates, theres always ones I hadn't encountered yet thrown in too so I feel like its just how real probability/rng works.
also I love being able to see all these villagers in person; theres been some I ended up taking that I never would have planned on because they surprised me by being so cute in person
And yeah as someone who has gone through probably 400+ tickets and has yet to find the last two I'm really searching for, I can say its discouraging, but I don't think its unfair. I'm much more happy with being able to search for my villagers like this rather than how it was in new leaf where I would pretty much assume I had to buy a villager off someone to obtain it. I like being able to know if I farm long enough I'll find them, and even when I'm getting what I feel like is a ton of duplicates, theres always ones I hadn't encountered yet thrown in too so I feel like its just how real probability/rng works.
also I love being able to see all these villagers in person; theres been some I ended up taking that I never would have planned on because they surprised me by being so cute in person
Underneath The Stars
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except they're earning nothing from all those ebay resellers
yup, most of my favorite villagers aren't even popular. i'd understand if new horizons is one of the first installments of the game, you know, before we grew attached to their characters & have made villager friends. but no. of course you'd want some of your old villagers back! it is how it is. it's also kinda apparent that they know about the favorite villagers, that's why they released the amiibos and ACNL welcome amiibo update. and then pocket camp made it sooooo much easier to invite your favorite villagers too, like they even mention that on their posts lol. you just need to craft them their requests or clear their map.
i don't know why we're still playing the villager hunt game when they're not even earning anything for the amiibos cards. and we know that most players are gonna want or try to move out villagers asap if they don't want them anyway. are we still pretending that we play this game to get random villagers???
RenaiRider
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To add onto this, and what I don't think people get when they suggest to be "casual" about island hopping, is the massive issue with "open plots" left after someone moves out.
Why couldn't they have let us choose when to put down a plot after someone moves out? Instead, we have 1-3 days of island hopping with the impending threat of someone you really dislike moving into your town, then not being able to see any more villagers on islands because they stop spawning.
I think a nice compromise would've been that islands worked like the campsite, where villagers always show up on the islands, so you don't feel pressured to wait for the tiny windows they give us when we have free space available. I would love to take my time with all of this.
And don't get me started on if you happen to be naively careless and let someone's voided villager occupy your plot with the "moved out" glitch.
Underneath The Stars
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oh gosh... you absolutely understand what i'm going through. i haven't plotted my 10th land because of this!!! i have work in the morning, so i can only visit the islands at night at a limited time, so i can't really risk it if i end up falling asleep with an open plot. the mechanic or "trick" to visit a full island to clear the void isn't even proven for new horizons, so i don't wanna take a risk.
Even though it's RNG I think it's really hard to believe it's more likely that you can find the same villagers two or three times in such a short amount of trips over finding literally anyone else?? I really feel like there's something influencing the villagers you get
The open plot makes sense because you need to open a plot to invite someone in. I don't know how that 1 requirement proves Nintendo wanted us to farm for "dreamies"
sicklewillow
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The time limit is the frustrating part. I mean, there are a lot of villagers in the pool. And technically, you invite the villager you like! It all comes to preference, you might be okay to whoever it is available but we do we have preference who some of us we would like to invite back and the moving out of your less preferred villagers is painstaking. I wouldn't minded it if it's not as difficult to move out a villager.
Also, having an open plot makes sense. Why is the campsite still works even if you don't have an open plot?
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