You don’t have to change anything, from the responses of the thread there are few people that feel the same as I do. I wasn’t talking about the forums as I haven’t visited any islands here. It’s just things I’ve seen on other sites like discord.
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FireNinja1
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I don't think that I necessarily feel pressure to tip per se. There isn't a clear culture around whether to tip or not (i.e. it's not like the restaurant industry). Furthermore, I treat tips as distinct from entry fees. As I see it, tips are optional, while entry fees are not. People have a choice of using which term to use, and whether or not they want you to give payment should be reflected in that choice.
That being said, if I am asked to pay an entry fee, I will almost always pay the entry fee and nothing more. There are some cases where I elect to pay additional bells / NMT on top of what is being asked, but those are few and far between.
That being said, if I am asked to pay an entry fee, I will almost always pay the entry fee and nothing more. There are some cases where I elect to pay additional bells / NMT on top of what is being asked, but those are few and far between.
I like to host giveaways and recently I let people sell turnips in my town with a 500+ price for free.
I usually say that tips are not necessary but if you feel like you want to please only IGB or something along those lines only because I'm not interested in NMT, even then if somebody tips NMT I'll still say thank you.
People have come and gone without leaving anything and I really don't care. If I specifically wanted payment I would have sold the DIYs or entry rather than give them away.
I usually say that tips are not necessary but if you feel like you want to please only IGB or something along those lines only because I'm not interested in NMT, even then if somebody tips NMT I'll still say thank you.
People have come and gone without leaving anything and I really don't care. If I specifically wanted payment I would have sold the DIYs or entry rather than give them away.
Pretty Dead Boy
Noot Noot
Personally, I feel like I have a personal responsibility to tip people especially when they say ‘tips are appreciated but not required’. Tone is lost via text. I will almost always tip someone unless they do not want any kind of tips. I like doing whatever I can to help out, but the phrasing sets off my anxiety even if the phrasing has good intentions.
It’s not just with how phrasing is with in-game tipping, I get anxious whenever I hear a statement like ‘you don’t have to [insert blank], but I would appreciate if you do’. I don’t want to disappoint or upset this person if they actually wanted me to. I had a lot of experiences the said-person told me it would okay when it truly wasn’t and I suffered consequences I didn’t think I was supposed to face.
It’s moreover my problem because I genuinely can’t read a lot of tone via text and the emoticons/emojis sometimes have me guessing
It’s not just with how phrasing is with in-game tipping, I get anxious whenever I hear a statement like ‘you don’t have to [insert blank], but I would appreciate if you do’. I don’t want to disappoint or upset this person if they actually wanted me to. I had a lot of experiences the said-person told me it would okay when it truly wasn’t and I suffered consequences I didn’t think I was supposed to face.
It’s moreover my problem because I genuinely can’t read a lot of tone via text and the emoticons/emojis sometimes have me guessing
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Personally I think there's always an expectation of it and has become a norm, the same way that if someone invites you over for dinner, you should bring something such as a bottle of wine. Regardless of that, I'll always tip every time I visit someone as they took the time to extend an invite and welcome me to their island.
In this day and age, there are people who throw basic/common courtesy out the window and if you don't make something known, they will not follow it. Guests should know not to shake trees, trample flowers or take things off the ground but we're at a point where you have to remind people of it, with an over-correction to where they have to include mentioning about tipping. It's similar to where you should take your shoes off when entering someone's home IRL and some just either ignore or don't know.
In this day and age, there are people who throw basic/common courtesy out the window and if you don't make something known, they will not follow it. Guests should know not to shake trees, trample flowers or take things off the ground but we're at a point where you have to remind people of it, with an over-correction to where they have to include mentioning about tipping. It's similar to where you should take your shoes off when entering someone's home IRL and some just either ignore or don't know.
EquinoxIsland
Senior Member
Personally, when someone opens up to do something nice it doesn't put me out at all to show a little appreciation for them giving something free (like cityscape walls, hard to come by DIYs, high turnip prices, etc.) that greatly benefits me. I guess I just don't exactly see the problem, because I've seen a lot of giveaways for highly sought after items that would normally be expensive / difficult to come by, and a small tip feels harmless in comparison. Regardless, if they say you don't have to tip, there's nothing physically stopping you from not tipping.
I think people say tips are appreciated but not required because literally, they'd appreciate tips if people are have the ability to do so. 99% of people who say this are genuinely fine with people who don't tip. They're not responsible for people's personal issues with that statement. If you feel "pressured" by it, than it likely means that you feel some sentiment of guilt if you wouldn't tip, which is normal. They're willingly helping people out by using up their own personal time that could easily be used on something else, so it makes sense lol. If you don't wanna tip that's perfectly fine, but please don't blame the other party.
In regards to similarities to real life tipping culture (specifically the US), it's not really the same. You're expected to pay tips because waiters/waitresses literally get less than minimum wage, so they need tips to survive. That's why is considered extremely rude not to tip in the US. It's honestly a really stupid system. Tipping in AC is like how tipping should be and what it is in other countries. I think US tipping standards warped that perception that tipping is mainly optional.
In regards to similarities to real life tipping culture (specifically the US), it's not really the same. You're expected to pay tips because waiters/waitresses literally get less than minimum wage, so they need tips to survive. That's why is considered extremely rude not to tip in the US. It's honestly a really stupid system. Tipping in AC is like how tipping should be and what it is in other countries. I think US tipping standards warped that perception that tipping is mainly optional.
Amissapanda
Manda Panda
I always tip, but it's not because I feel pressured to. I like to give back to someone who is offering a service/island visit/etc for free. I know from experience that you have to take a considerable amount of time to open for things like giving DIYs (I've done it for 3 hours straight before), having to send that code privately to every person that wants to visit and patiently wait for them to arrive, and rinse and repeat with however many people are visiting. You sit through a lot of menus and handle PM conversations here and in-game ones with many people. It takes effort. And I like to give back, even if it's not required.
Likewise, I'm one of those people that say "tips are appreciated, but not required" when I offer the same sort of services and visits. There have been many people that don't tip, but I never look upon them poorly or gripe at them or any sort of passive-aggressive behavior. Because it's optional. It's not required. If people want to leave a tip, that's very kind and generous of them, but there's nothing wrong with not leaving one when it's not required. If someone expected tips from everyone, they would simply charge a fee.
Likewise, I'm one of those people that say "tips are appreciated, but not required" when I offer the same sort of services and visits. There have been many people that don't tip, but I never look upon them poorly or gripe at them or any sort of passive-aggressive behavior. Because it's optional. It's not required. If people want to leave a tip, that's very kind and generous of them, but there's nothing wrong with not leaving one when it's not required. If someone expected tips from everyone, they would simply charge a fee.
Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
I charge a fee because i love bells and i love shopping!
and i always tip unless they say no in game
and i always tip unless they say no in game
Shyria
Senior Member
Sorry I haven't read the full 9 pages,so what I'm going to say might have been said already, in which case I apologize!
I often tip too just because I do appreciate people taking the time. BUT I do quite often struggle with what to tip. I'm not rolling on bells and it feels silly to tip like 1k... I fear DIY or furniture might lose its value if the other person already has it... But gold or star fragments for a visit to buy from Leif, for example, seems a bit too much as well...
So in that sense I do understand the struggle because sometimes it does have me overthinking the whole thing haha.
Also I find the way people ask for tips sometimes is funny. True, 90% of the times it's things I've used as well like the "tips appreciated but not required!" which I find very transparent and fair. But lately I've seen some "when you enter, the tipping area is right here, tips are highly appreciated since I do this and that and it takes me time, so tipping would really make sense, but I don't charge entry, but please tip"
I often tip too just because I do appreciate people taking the time. BUT I do quite often struggle with what to tip. I'm not rolling on bells and it feels silly to tip like 1k... I fear DIY or furniture might lose its value if the other person already has it... But gold or star fragments for a visit to buy from Leif, for example, seems a bit too much as well...
So in that sense I do understand the struggle because sometimes it does have me overthinking the whole thing haha.
Also I find the way people ask for tips sometimes is funny. True, 90% of the times it's things I've used as well like the "tips appreciated but not required!" which I find very transparent and fair. But lately I've seen some "when you enter, the tipping area is right here, tips are highly appreciated since I do this and that and it takes me time, so tipping would really make sense, but I don't charge entry, but please tip"
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I also don’t like the whole “tips appreciated”, especially when it’s then followed by “NMTs, Star Frags, Gold ore or wishlist items only please!”
Maybe it’s just because being British you don’t ask for tips or expect them. And if you do you don’t get them. If people want to tip you they’ll tip. And if you don’t want to let people over without them tipping, have an entrance fee.
I do usually tip but I would be happier if I didn’t feel like I was being pressured into doing it.
Maybe it’s just because being British you don’t ask for tips or expect them. And if you do you don’t get them. If people want to tip you they’ll tip. And if you don’t want to let people over without them tipping, have an entrance fee.
I do usually tip but I would be happier if I didn’t feel like I was being pressured into doing it.
Agree 100%
And it's funny that you mentioned being British, because I'm from a totally different country (Brazil), with a very different culture and social construction, and the concept of tipping is exactly the same here.
No, not all. If hosts say they're looking for a particular item then I can see if I have it, otherwise I either don't visit or I don't tip.
Before anyone jumps on me, I don't charge for island visits and I've given away excess hybrids and duplicate DIYs so I do like to give back.
Before anyone jumps on me, I don't charge for island visits and I've given away excess hybrids and duplicate DIYs so I do like to give back.
I don't like tipping, maybe that's because I'm from a "non-tipping country"... Of course everybody appreciates tips, so I don't understand the need to write it down unless you want tips. Anyway, I like dropping DIYs, fossils or some other items when visiting people, and I always leave a drawing in their bulletin board. It feels better than just dropping some bells. I never tip bells unless when selling turnips.
starlightsong
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I don’t really feel this way tbh but I do get what you mean about how there’s no real need to mention tips if you’re not asking for a fee—I think people seem to get the words tip and fee mixed up, because a tip is by definition an optional bit of payment for one’s services that would be appreciated but never required. So they’re really saying is that they don’t require a fee. But I always tip people regardless so I guess it doesn’t matter too much to me haha.
Edit: Would like to add though, that I honestly think asking for a small fee to let people into your island is perfectly fair. There’s always a certain level of risk involved with letting strangers in, and it can be time-consuming especially if you’re letting a lot of people in and especially if you have high turnip prices. And after all, not even going to a random mystery island is free in this game.
Edit: Would like to add though, that I honestly think asking for a small fee to let people into your island is perfectly fair. There’s always a certain level of risk involved with letting strangers in, and it can be time-consuming especially if you’re letting a lot of people in and especially if you have high turnip prices. And after all, not even going to a random mystery island is free in this game.
Hmm I think there’s a slight semantic difference in how I meant “tips appreciated” and you read it, as I meant it as “if you do it anyway I will be appreciative/grateful” and you were hearing as “I’d appreciate it if you would...” which is actually just a way of saying “please.” Reading it as “please do so” would absolutely put pressure in the post, but it’s also definitely not how I meant it.
daisyy
Late-Night Egg
i definitely feel pressured to tip, especially if there's a gate-type situation or if the host is sitting, watching over the guests - i want to tip in that case because they're watching me and may judge me (lol) and also because most of the time they're monitoring the situation to make the situation smooth for all parties. if the host just open the island and is running around doing their own thing, i feel less obligated.
You are making millions of bells by them opening up their island to you and spending their time being helpful to you by doing so and you don't want to throw them 100k of your 2m? Something presumably only possible because they opened up their island to you, otherwise you wouldn't be there... Who is greedy again?
Listen, some people are asking for CRAZY stuff, like 10nmt. But if someone says "tips appreciated" that means "I am not going to tell you what to pay or have an entry fee, but kindly tip please". Do your waiters and waitresses at restaurants say "please tip me!" at a restaurant?
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