3D Dot Game Heroes

Tyeforce said:
Rawburt said:
Tyeforce said:
Nevermore said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepFiannly a 8 bit gamenot 8-bit... <small>And it's a huge ripoff of Zelda.</small>screams
How is it an improvement? It rips off Zelda's base, but it goes a different direction with it. Zelda isn't mean for customization. You're not supposed to customize your character, you play as ]could[/i] make a Zelda game in which you get to customize your character...but then it wouldn't be Zelda anymore. Familiar characters and legends are a staple of Zelda games. Add customization in, and you change that. Zelda isn't Animal Crossing, it's not Sims, it's not Drawn to Life, it's none of that. It's Zelda. Customization just isn't something good to add to it.
That just adds to our argument that it's NOT a Zelda rip-off by adding things Zelda wouldn't.
Like I just said in my last post, you're right, the whole game isn't a ripoff. But there are things that are. The story, the music, the style...
The story? Tons of games have that same generic story that the old Zelda's had. There wasn't really anything special or unique about those stories.
 
Tyeforce said:
In some ways, yes, it is unique, and it's not just a ripoff. But some elements, particularly the legend, are clearly ripped straight from Zelda. I don't have a problem with the game, I just think that, since it's supposed to be a "homage" to 8-bit games like you say, it should be on a console made by the company who made the games it's paying homage to. That's not to say that I would play it if it was for Wii or DS, though. If I want Zelda, I'll play Zelda. If I want Mario, I'll play Mario. I don't need ripoffs, homages, or inspired games. I'll play the real thing, not something that's just trying to be something else.
You've made it glaringly obvious that you're a flaming Nintendo fanboy, which helps to understand why you're so passionate about bashing this game.

"Since it's supposed to be a "homage" to 8-bit games like you say, it should be on a console made by the company who made the games it's paying homage to."

....what? So Okami should've launched on a Nintendo system because it was heavily inspired by the Zelda games? Of course not. What you're saying holds no water.
 
AndyB said:
Tyeforce said:
In some ways, yes, it is unique, and it's not just a ripoff. But some elements, particularly the legend...

...Like I just said in my last post, you're right, the whole game isn't a ripoff. But there are things that are. The story, the music, the style...
No, not at all. From what you're saying any story labeled "legand", with a princess etc. is a ripoff then.

And no, even more no. The style? Again, all classic, dragon slaying type stories must be one to ripoff of Zelda.
The sages, the number 7, an evil being who wants an object of great power... What other game has that besides Zelda? Yes, there are many kidnapped princesses, but that's not what I'm talking about.
 
MisterNeedleMouse said:
Tyeforce said:
In some ways, yes, it is unique, and it's not just a ripoff. But some elements, particularly the legend, are clearly ripped straight from Zelda. I don't have a problem with the game, I just think that, since it's supposed to be a "homage" to 8-bit games like you say, it should be on a console made by the company who made the games it's paying homage to. That's not to say that I would play it if it was for Wii or DS, though. If I want Zelda, I'll play Zelda. If I want Mario, I'll play Mario. I don't need ripoffs, homages, or inspired games. I'll play the real thing, not something that's just trying to be something else.
You've made it glaringly obvious that you're a flaming Nintendo fanboy, which helps to understand why you're so passionate about bashing this game.

"Since it's supposed to be a "homage" to 8-bit games like you say, it should be on a console made by the company who made the games it's paying homage to."

....what? So Okami should've launched on a Nintendo system because it was heavily inspired by the Zelda games? Of course not. What you're saying holds no water.
*censored.3.0* YEA, OKAMI. I love that game. But don't even use Okami. He's not familiar with it. He on;y plays first party Nintendo and Sega.
 
bobaloochi said:
So do you think Weird Al just rips off artist's hard work, too, Tyeforce?
His songs are parodies, not ripoffs. They're meant to be funny. 3D Dot Game Heroes isn't. It's not a parody.
 
Tyeforce said:
Rawburt said:
Tyeforce said:
Rawburt said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepFiannly a 8 bit gamenot 8-bit... <small>And it's a huge ripoff of Zelda.</small>screams
I'm not saying it's a bad game or anything, but they could've made something unique instead of blatantly ripping off another game.
But it IS unique, has a new art style going on and it does do things in it's own way, you can even edit to make your own character.

It doesn't feel like a rip-off to me, it feels like a similar game that wants to do something it it's own style and pay tribute to the games of yesterday, to me it's a game that actually might actually be better than the old Zelda games.
In some ways, yes, it is unique, and it's not just a ripoff. But some elements, particularly the legend, are clearly ripped straight from Zelda. I don't have a problem with the game, I just think that, since it's supposed to be a "homage" to 8-bit games like you say, it should be on a console made by the company who made the games it's paying homage to. That's not to say that I would play it if it was for Wii or DS, though. If I want Zelda, I'll play Zelda. If I want Mario, I'll play Mario. I don't need ripoffs, homages, or inspired games. I'll play the real thing, not something that's just trying to be something else.
Why should it matter what console it comes on? It makes no difference.


You're also forgetting that Zelda isn't the only game getting referenced here, it looks just like Dragon Quest for instance.

Also, to say you won't try anything that is similar to a game but won't play it because it isn't in that series is extremely close-minded. Don't act like Zelda is anything original, it's just a copy-pasta of your generic fantasy setting story.
 
MisterNeedleMouse said:
Tyeforce said:
In some ways, yes, it is unique, and it's not just a ripoff. But some elements, particularly the legend, are clearly ripped straight from Zelda. I don't have a problem with the game, I just think that, since it's supposed to be a "homage" to 8-bit games like you say, it should be on a console made by the company who made the games it's paying homage to. That's not to say that I would play it if it was for Wii or DS, though. If I want Zelda, I'll play Zelda. If I want Mario, I'll play Mario. I don't need ripoffs, homages, or inspired games. I'll play the real thing, not something that's just trying to be something else.
You've made it glaringly obvious that you're a flaming Nintendo fanboy, which helps to understand why you're so passionate about bashing this game.

"Since it's supposed to be a "homage" to 8-bit games like you say, it should be on a console made by the company who made the games it's paying homage to."

....what? So Okami should've launched on a Nintendo system because it was heavily inspired by the Zelda games? Of course not. What you're saying holds no water.
You're new, Ill teach you.

Tye is a fanboy who plays nothong that isnt a first party nintendo game or sonic...

He hates any games that arent of the above two groups by default, regardless of what he says, please try no to argue too much, he's a black hole.
 
Tyeforce said:
AndyB said:
Tyeforce said:
In some ways, yes, it is unique, and it's not just a ripoff. But some elements, particularly the legend...

...Like I just said in my last post, you're right, the whole game isn't a ripoff. But there are things that are. The story, the music, the style...
No, not at all. From what you're saying any story labeled "legand", with a princess etc. is a ripoff then.

And no, even more no. The style? Again, all classic, dragon slaying type stories must be one to ripoff of Zelda.
The sages, the number 7, an evil being who wants an object of great power... What other game has that besides Zelda? Yes, there are many kidnapped princesses, but that's not what I'm talking about.
D:

He's got us there...

The number 7 is an origional nintendo property and therefor should not be used by any other company...

Damn you and your arguing skils, Tyler!!
 
Tyeforce said:
AndyB said:
Tyeforce said:
In some ways, yes, it is unique, and it's not just a ripoff. But some elements, particularly the legend...

...Like I just said in my last post, you're right, the whole game isn't a ripoff. But there are things that are. The story, the music, the style...
No, not at all. From what you're saying any story labeled "legand", with a princess etc. is a ripoff then.

And no, even more no. The style? Again, all classic, dragon slaying type stories must be one to ripoff of Zelda.
The sages, the number 7, an evil being who wants an object of great power... What other game has that besides Zelda? Yes, there are many kidnapped princesses, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Sages are much like monks. There are plenty of other developers that love the number 7.
Evil wizard after power is a cliche too.
 
MisterNeedleMouse said:
Tyeforce said:
In some ways, yes, it is unique, and it's not just a ripoff. But some elements, particularly the legend, are clearly ripped straight from Zelda. I don't have a problem with the game, I just think that, since it's supposed to be a "homage" to 8-bit games like you say, it should be on a console made by the company who made the games it's paying homage to. That's not to say that I would play it if it was for Wii or DS, though. If I want Zelda, I'll play Zelda. If I want Mario, I'll play Mario. I don't need ripoffs, homages, or inspired games. I'll play the real thing, not something that's just trying to be something else.
You've made it glaringly obvious that you're a flaming Nintendo fanboy, which helps to understand why you're so passionate about bashing this game.

"Since it's supposed to be a "homage" to 8-bit games like you say, it should be on a console made by the company who made the games it's paying homage to."

....what? So Okami should've launched on a Nintendo system because it was heavily inspired by the Zelda games? Of course not. What you're saying holds no water.
I've not bashed anything about the game. In all honesty, it looks like a fun game to me. But I just don't like how some things feel too ripped off of Zelda. And Ōkami doesn't look like a carbon copy of Zelda, unlike 3D Dot Game Heroes. Besides, it mades its way to Wii, anyway.
 
Ciaran said:
Tyeforce said:
AndyB said:
Tyeforce said:
In some ways, yes, it is unique, and it's not just a ripoff. But some elements, particularly the legend...

...Like I just said in my last post, you're right, the whole game isn't a ripoff. But there are things that are. The story, the music, the style...
No, not at all. From what you're saying any story labeled "legand", with a princess etc. is a ripoff then.

And no, even more no. The style? Again, all classic, dragon slaying type stories must be one to ripoff of Zelda.
The sages, the number 7, an evil being who wants an object of great power... What other game has that besides Zelda? Yes, there are many kidnapped princesses, but that's not what I'm talking about.
D:

He's got us there...

The number 7 is an origional nintendo property and therefor should not be used by any other company...

Damn you and your arguing skils, Tyler!!
All of those elements together, I mean. >_> Zelda is known for having seven sages, etc. Yes, other games can use similar themes, but it's a staple of Zelda games, and 3D Dot Game Heroes is using a lot of those staples, which is why it seems like a ripoff.
 
Tyeforce said:
MisterNeedleMouse said:
Tyeforce said:
So i hurd you like LAZERS said:
I can't wait looks awesome

Fiannly a 8 bit game

I miss the old days

And its only $40

So you gonna get it?
But it's not 8-bit... <small>And it's a huge ripoff of Zelda.</small>
Am I falling for an obvious troll here?

It's not a rip-off in any way, shape or form. It's a homage to 8-bit Adventure games like Zelda, Dragon Quest, that sort of thing.

I for one am looking forward to it.
The trailer for it screams "ZELDA RIPOFF" in every single way, from the legend, to the graphics, to the gameplay.
oh shut up, you can't stand it can you?
 
Tyeforce said:
bobaloochi said:
So do you think Weird Al just rips off artist's hard work, too, Tyeforce?
His songs are parodies, not ripoffs. They're meant to be funny. 3D Dot Game Heroes isn't. It's not a parody.
Well, they feature similar music, most songs feature similar themes, sometimes even referencing the original artist's other works, too.

Kinda like how this game has similar graphics, themes, and references to other Nes games.
 
TravisTouchdown said:
MisterNeedleMouse said:
Tyeforce said:
In some ways, yes, it is unique, and it's not just a ripoff. But some elements, particularly the legend, are clearly ripped straight from Zelda. I don't have a problem with the game, I just think that, since it's supposed to be a "homage" to 8-bit games like you say, it should be on a console made by the company who made the games it's paying homage to. That's not to say that I would play it if it was for Wii or DS, though. If I want Zelda, I'll play Zelda. If I want Mario, I'll play Mario. I don't need ripoffs, homages, or inspired games. I'll play the real thing, not something that's just trying to be something else.
You've made it glaringly obvious that you're a flaming Nintendo fanboy, which helps to understand why you're so passionate about bashing this game.

"Since it's supposed to be a "homage" to 8-bit games like you say, it should be on a console made by the company who made the games it's paying homage to."

....what? So Okami should've launched on a Nintendo system because it was heavily inspired by the Zelda games? Of course not. What you're saying holds no water.
*censored.3.0* YEA, OKAMI. I love that game. But don't even use Okami. He's not familiar with it. He on;y plays first party Nintendo and Sega.
That's not true at all. In fact, I've been meaning to buy Ōkami sometime. I just haven't got around to it. I almost bought it back before Christmas, but I bought Scribblenauts (which also happens to be a third party game, and it's not Sonic) instead.
 
ATWA said:
Tyeforce said:
MisterNeedleMouse said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepFiannly a 8 bit gamenot 8-bit... <small>And it's a huge ripoff of Zelda.</small>
Am I falling for an obvious troll here?

It's not a rip-off in any way, shape or form. It's a homage to 8-bit Adventure games like Zelda, Dragon Quest, that sort of thing.

I for one am looking forward to it.
The trailer for it screams "ZELDA RIPOFF" in every single way, from the legend, to the graphics, to the gameplay.
oh shut up, you can't stand it can you?
He can't stand anything not Nintendo, Sega, or Apple.
 
ATWA said:
Tyeforce said:
MisterNeedleMouse said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepFiannly a 8 bit gamenot 8-bit... <small>And it's a huge ripoff of Zelda.</small>
Am I falling for an obvious troll here?

It's not a rip-off in any way, shape or form. It's a homage to 8-bit Adventure games like Zelda, Dragon Quest, that sort of thing.

I for one am looking forward to it.
The trailer for it screams "ZELDA RIPOFF" in every single way, from the legend, to the graphics, to the gameplay.
oh shut up, you can't stand it can you?
Can't stand what? Did you join this forum just to troll me? Or are you someone's alternate account?
 
Nevermore said:
ATWA said:
Tyeforce said:
MisterNeedleMouse said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepFiannly a 8 bit gamenot 8-bit... <small>And it's a huge ripoff of Zelda.</small>
The trailer for it screams "ZELDA RIPOFF" in every single way, from the legend, to the graphics, to the gameplay.
oh shut up, you can't stand it can you?
He can't stand anything not Nintendo, Sega, or Apple.
I love how he doesn't care about the other games "that are getting ripped off"
 
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