2012, rise of socialism in the US, and health care

[Pear]

People in this country worry so much about their money sometimes it worries me. You are putting your money over a persons life, their future. It isn't even like it would be that significant of an amount if you make a certain amount of money. Call me a bleeding heart, I am the type pf person who occasionally gives money to homeless, but that is why I would prefer our government helping those people if they try, I don't know if that guy I give a dollar was a con artist, or a junkie, or worse, but still I can't help worrying if that person really needs it.

I think Jesus and Ghandi had it right about caring for the poor, why some don't see it I don't understand since it is in just about every religion. Helping others is just something we should do, especially if it only makes minor inconvenience to ourselves. I understand that there are worries that some will abuse the system, and some will, but most won't and those are the one's I worry about.

Double post, but I just saw this. So what if you're a few dollars poorer? Doesn't it matter to people that you helped someone, isn't that what humanity is? Caring for each other rather than being concerned about yourself?

 

[Jeremy]

Charity is good. Stealing is bad. You don't need government to help poor people. In fact governments throughout history have always been responsible for the world's poverty. Don't you think people would be able to donate to charity much more if they didn't have to give 35% of their money to the government (which spends it on useless departments, wars, programs, bureaucrats, etc)? The US has been most charitable in eras of low taxation and economic growth (the free market).

 

[ATWA]

Charity is good. Stealing is bad. You don't need government to help poor people. In fact governments throughout history have always been responsible for the world's poverty. Don't you think people would be able to donate to charity much more if they didn't have to give 35% of their money to the government to spend on useless wars, programs, bureaucrats, etc? The US has been most charitable in eras of low taxation and economic growth (the free market).

Useless wars is a whole other debate.

http://www.youtube.com/v/xVlSuVNkshE

Listen to this song, it has a message in it.

 

[Sporge27]

Charity is good. Stealing is bad. You don't need government to help poor people. In fact governments throughout history have always been responsible for the world's poverty. Don't you think people would be able to donate to charity much more if they didn't have to give 35% of their money to the government (which spends it on useless departments, wars, programs, bureaucrats, etc)? The US has been most charitable in eras of low taxation and economic growth (the free market).

Unfortunately I don't think most would donate to charity. People are enormously lazy and it takes pushing to get someone to do something sometimes. This was stuff from my psyche teacher in class, you are a lot more successful at getting people to attend events if you make it so they do as little as possible. As an RA yeah he kinda was right, if you hold an event right on your floor more people attend, if you make it across campus not that many show up. laziness.

Hoover's tactics were in response to the depression not the cause of. There were failing banks, the stock market crash, a huge drought, and most importantly fear. This fear caused people to lose faith in the economy and stop buying most things. Hoover's actions may have exacerbated it, but it didn't cause it.

There is also a logical fallacy that these two presidents were in power during it therefore it is their fault. One of these two presidents was seen as awful, and a cause of the depression, the other though is still seen as a great president. I do not believe that it was government regulation that hurt the economy more after it was already hurt badly, I think it was BAD government intervention. Just because government intervention can do harm does not mean it always does. The New Deal from Roosevelt marked a period of economic growth EXCEPT for one point when he listened to people about easing off it. Things from the new deal like FDI are amazing and really help people trust the banks.

I along with many believe that if the government had a few more regulations and safeguards up that there wouldn't have been a great depression. Though I suppose it could just be all the liberal propaganda shoved into my US history textbooks, you know because it is the most widely agreed upon by historians.

also looking at videos now, that first guy he is so negative about human nature. I honestly could never think like that.

 

[muffun]

American government, health care, and politicians suck. (well IMHO at least)

No questions needed.

 

[Bacon Boy]

I just don't think that the working class should suffer because of the poor class/class that doesn't want to get off their ass and do something. I have met and worked with people like that (in a sense of providing them clothes, talking to them, etc.) who like it better NOT sorking because they get what they want form us.

 

[Entei Slider]

Obama sucks.
End of story.

 

[Pear]

I just don't think that the working class should suffer because of the poor class/class that doesn't want to get off their ass and do something. I have met and worked with people like that (in a sense of providing them clothes, talking to them, etc.) who like it better NOT sorking because they get what they want form us.

Ok, yes, some people are lazy. But the vast majority of them have just had bad luck.