Why is Nintendo so bad now?

[Nixie]

You "shook your head in shame". That's what I took that as. XD

Ohh tye... you silly :3 you need to learn that I'm hardly ever serious about topics concerning exercise... I'm too lazy! ;D

 

[Smugleaf]

I don't think this has to do with anything . . . but .

LMFAO OMG LOLOLOLOLOL
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS HILARIOUS xD

 

[Mino]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

Many people are blinded by nostalgia.

So are you saying that Nintendo makes consistently *censored.2.0*ty games, I just like them because they remind me of times past?

Well you see, many people's tastes may move on, but they cling to the games of old and think they are so great, because of nostalgia. Let's look at SMB NES. Clunky controls, terrible music, terrible graphics, no story, bad level design, etc., technically speaking, Super Mario Galaxy would be the better game, and the only reason people would defend the older game is either because of nostalgia, or because that's what the gaming community would dictate as a "classic" or "amazing" game, which is why if someone who is completely new to gaming, who's only played SMG, who's never even heard of the first Mario game played it, he'd think it was terrible.
So then, let's look at this, many people might say the newer games are bad, but in reality, the nostalgia free truth is this:
SMG > SM64
LoZ: TP > OOT
ACCF > ACGC
That's just a few examples.

The main point is, Nintendo has not changed at all, so the only reason anyone can really dislike the newer games is one of the following:
1. Tastes have changed, with Nostalgia being the only thing keeping them clinged onto the older games
2. The game formula has become stale to them, so they are bored of them, with Nostalgia being the only thing keeping them clinged onto the older games

Personally, i'm a number 2, I can try to pick up and play Galaxy again, but i'd get bored of it quickly, but if I picked up SM64, i'd have fun just running around doing nothing at all.
However even so, i'll still buy Mario Galaxy 2 because despite that I will enjoy it.

Your argument is becoming very incoherent, but I think that you're trying to say that Nintendo hasn't changed at all, just people's tastes have changed or they've grown tired of it. Also, the only reason they like the older games is due to pure nostalgia.

What you're saying here is that those who prefer the older games prefer them only for nostalgia, which is an incredibly broad claim to make, and can be dismissed without much consideration. With the movement to 3D and higher budgets, games have fundamentally evolved at least once, and with it the fundamental experience of playing games has changed. People like different games for different reasons.

You make the assumption that bigger and newer is better. It's not necessarily true, and even if it were that doesn't mean that everyone holds that opinion. Likewise, it is entirely your opinion that the games that you listed are better than their predecessors, whether or not you claim it as "nostalgia free truth".

I just think you're angry because you suck at Super Mario Bros. 3 or something. :gyroidsideways:

Edit - Also you're assuming that Nintendo is some unchanging monolith that *censored.2.0*s out games. It's not, it's full of ever-changing developers. It's impossible to assume that they'll always make constantly-improving iterations, even if their entire strategy is using old formulae and building new things into them. And even if every game were created by the exact same people, there's no guarantee it would be better.

 

[Prof Gallows]

I've noticed something.
Every time one of these arguments break and out someone goes off to list how Nintendo doesn't make crappy games, they always list the same four-five games over and over.

What I'm trying to get at is, if Nintendo doesn't make crappy games why are there only ever a few listed?

It's funny, because I notice the same about the other video game companies, except they're mostly all from the same genre.



And those are only the games that I've played. There are games that I haven't played and games that just don't appeal to me that are also great. But I love every single game on that list, and I had a blast with each and every one of them. And that's only Wii and DS, excluding WiiWare and DSiWare.

Thank you.
I've been waiting for a good list for a while.
I was getting really tired of seeing the same old, "Twilight Princess, SMG, etc, etc" stuff.

and yeah, people do it the same with the other game companies too. I was just waiting for someone to actually give a decent list instead of listing the few things that were popular.

 

[Blue_Jay]

Why can't people just accept that other people like different things. Arguing about video games is kind of silly imo.

 

[Smugleaf]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

Many people are blinded by nostalgia.

So are you saying that Nintendo makes consistently *censored.2.0*ty games, I just like them because they remind me of times past?

Well you see, many people's tastes may move on, but they cling to the games of old and think they are so great, because of nostalgia. Let's look at SMB NES. Clunky controls, terrible music, terrible graphics, no story, bad level design, etc., technically speaking, Super Mario Galaxy would be the better game, and the only reason people would defend the older game is either because of nostalgia, or because that's what the gaming community would dictate as a "classic" or "amazing" game, which is why if someone who is completely new to gaming, who's only played SMG, who's never even heard of the first Mario game played it, he'd think it was terrible.
So then, let's look at this, many people might say the newer games are bad, but in reality, the nostalgia free truth is this:
SMG > SM64
LoZ: TP > OOT
ACCF > ACGC
That's just a few examples.

The main point is, Nintendo has not changed at all, so the only reason anyone can really dislike the newer games is one of the following:
1. Tastes have changed, with Nostalgia being the only thing keeping them clinged onto the older games
2. The game formula has become stale to them, so they are bored of them, with Nostalgia being the only thing keeping them clinged onto the older games

Personally, i'm a number 2, I can try to pick up and play Galaxy again, but i'd get bored of it quickly, but if I picked up SM64, i'd have fun just running around doing nothing at all.
However even so, i'll still buy Mario Galaxy 2 because despite that I will enjoy it.

Wow, that isn't true.
I don't get nostalgia from any of those games you listed, as I hadn't played them until they were already old. I still think some of those are better.
SMG < SM64
LoZ: TP = OOT (in terms of how good they are)
ACCF = ACGC (ACGC would be better if it had WiFi)

So, in reality, the newer games aren't (necessarily) better, as you said. It all depends on your opinion.

 

[Mino]

Why can't people just accept that other people like different things. Arguing about video games is kind of silly imo.

No one here is trying to say that people don't like different things. At least, I'm not. Seriously, what are you talking about?

And half the reasons these stupid message boards exist is to argue about video games.

 

[Deleted User]

I've noticed something.
Every time one of these arguments break and out someone goes off to list how Nintendo doesn't make crappy games, they always list the same four-five games over and over.

What I'm trying to get at is, if Nintendo doesn't make crappy games why are there only ever a few listed?

It's funny, because I notice the same about the other video game companies, except they're mostly all from the same genre.

You want a list? Here's a list of great games.

Wii
Animal Crossing: City Folk
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Link's Crossbow Training
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
Mario Kart Wii
Metroid Prime: Trilogy
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Pok

 

[Trent the Paladin]

I've noticed something.
Every time one of these arguments break and out someone goes off to list how Nintendo doesn't make crappy games, they always list the same four-five games over and over.

What I'm trying to get at is, if Nintendo doesn't make crappy games why are there only ever a few listed?

It's funny, because I notice the same about the other video game companies, except they're mostly all from the same genre.

You want a list? Here's a list of great games.

Wii
Animal Crossing: City Folk
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Link's Crossbow Training
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
Mario Kart Wii
Metroid Prime: Trilogy
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Pok

 

[Fontana]

It isn't. It never was imo.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Oh yeah, to the main topic:

I think that the games are easier to play in my opinion. Same old stuff, it just gets easier over time. Probably why I moved onto Sony for the most part, Nintendo games just don't seem to challenge me anymore.

 

[Matfox]

nintendo IS really bad now.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Oh yeah, to the main topic:

I think that the games are easier to play in my opinion. Same old stuff, it just gets easier over time. Probably why I moved onto Sony for the most part, Nintendo games just don't seem to challenge me anymore.

I keep my wii for the sake of newer wii games that may be good and the virtual console games. Stuck playing LTTP right now.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Oh yeah, to the main topic:

I think that the games are easier to play in my opinion. Same old stuff, it just gets easier over time. Probably why I moved onto Sony for the most part, Nintendo games just don't seem to challenge me anymore.

I keep my wii for the sake of newer wii games that may be good and the virtual console games. Stuck playing LTTP right now.

I keep it with hopes Nintendo will discover Difficulty Settings. And the occasional WiiWare/Virtual Console game.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Oh yeah, to the main topic:

I think that the games are easier to play in my opinion. Same old stuff, it just gets easier over time. Probably why I moved onto Sony for the most part, Nintendo games just don't seem to challenge me anymore.

I keep my wii for the sake of newer wii games that may be good and the virtual console games. Stuck playing LTTP right now.

I keep it with hopes Nintendo will discover Difficulty Settings. And the occasional WiiWare/Virtual Console game.

haha

I also keep it for my gamecube games.

 

[Blue_Jay]

I think that when people get older, they just don't like Nintendo as much because Nintendo games are aimed at younger children. They aren't really bad, people's interests just change.

 

[Bacon Boy]

I think that when people get older, they just don't like Nintendo as much because Nintendo games are aimed at younger children. They aren't really bad, people's interests just change.

Reiteration

 

[Micah]

Oh yeah, to the main topic:

I think that the games are easier to play in my opinion. Same old stuff, it just gets easier over time. Probably why I moved onto Sony for the most part, Nintendo games just don't seem to challenge me anymore.

I keep my wii for the sake of newer wii games that may be good and the virtual console games. Stuck playing LTTP right now.

I keep it with hopes Nintendo will discover Difficulty Settings. And the occasional WiiWare/Virtual Console game.

haha

I also keep it for my gamecube games.

Gamecube > Wii

I use my Wii for Gamecube games more than the Wii itself.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

I keep it with hopes Nintendo will discover Difficulty Settings. And the occasional WiiWare/Virtual Console game.

haha

I also keep it for my gamecube games.

Gamecube > Wii

I use my Wii for Gamecube games more than the Wii itself.

If only gcn games had wifi...

 

[Tyeforce]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

I keep it with hopes Nintendo will discover Difficulty Settings. And the occasional WiiWare/Virtual Console game.

haha

I also keep it for my gamecube games.

Gamecube > Wii

I use my Wii for Gamecube games more than the Wii itself.

How the hell can you say the the GameCube is better than the Wii, when the Wii can do everything the GameCube can (well, mostly), plus much more?