Why is Nintendo so bad now?

[Kyel]

You know, you're going to hell now :X

 

[Mino]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

They've always had the same business strategy though, whether you like to believe it or not, even in the NES days, their target was everybody, their goal was to get an NES in every home. You can even see alot of things you see on the Wii in NES accesories. All they've done is step it up since Iwata became the new president.

That doesn't actually prove anything. What that boils down to is "sell as many units as possible" which hardly is a coherent business strategy.

Believe me, I know my tastes have changed, but so has Nintendo. If my tastes have changed, how is it that I still enjoy games ranging from Balloon Fight and Super Mario Bros. 3 on the NES to Animal Crossing and Pikmin on the GameCube? If Nintendo's game philosophy hasn't changed, besides making games easier, how is it that I can't stand the Wii and its games? I haven't grown out of Nintendo, and according to you Nintendo hasn't changed. So which is it?

Many people are blinded by nostalgia.

So are you saying that Nintendo makes consistently *censored.2.0*ty games, I just like them because they remind me of times past?

 

[Jrrj15]

I still like Nintendo

 

[Megamannt125]

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That doesn't actually prove anything. What that boils down to is "sell as many units as possible" which hardly is a coherent business strategy.

Believe me, I know my tastes have changed, but so has Nintendo. If my tastes have changed, how is it that I still enjoy games ranging from Balloon Fight and Super Mario Bros. 3 on the NES to Animal Crossing and Pikmin on the GameCube? If Nintendo's game philosophy hasn't changed, besides making games easier, how is it that I can't stand the Wii and its games? I haven't grown out of Nintendo, and according to you Nintendo hasn't changed. So which is it?

Many people are blinded by nostalgia.

So are you saying that Nintendo makes consistently *censored.2.0*ty games, I just like them because they remind me of times past?

Well you see, many people's tastes may move on, but they cling to the games of old and think they are so great, because of nostalgia. Let's look at SMB NES. Clunky controls, terrible music, terrible graphics, no story, bad level design, etc., technically speaking, Super Mario Galaxy would be the better game, and the only reason people would defend the older game is either because of nostalgia, or because that's what the gaming community would dictate as a "classic" or "amazing" game, which is why if someone who is completely new to gaming, who's only played SMG, who's never even heard of the first Mario game played it, he'd think it was terrible.
So then, let's look at this, many people might say the newer games are bad, but in reality, the nostalgia free truth is this:
SMG > SM64
LoZ: TP > OOT
ACCF > ACGC
That's just a few examples.

The main point is, Nintendo has not changed at all, so the only reason anyone can really dislike the newer games is one of the following:
1. Tastes have changed, with Nostalgia being the only thing keeping them clinged onto the older games
2. The game formula has become stale to them, so they are bored of them, with Nostalgia being the only thing keeping them clinged onto the older games

Personally, i'm a number 2, I can try to pick up and play Galaxy again, but i'd get bored of it quickly, but if I picked up SM64, i'd have fun just running around doing nothing at all.
However even so, i'll still buy Mario Galaxy 2 because despite that I will enjoy it.

 

[MisterNeedleMouse]

Well you see, many people's tastes may move on, but they cling to the games of old and think they are so great, because of nostalgia. Let's look at SMB NES. Clunky controls, terrible music, terrible graphics, no story, bad level design, etc., technically speaking, Super Mario Galaxy would be the better game, and the only reason people would defend the older game is either because of nostalgia, or because that's what the gaming community would dictate as a "classic" or "amazing" game, which is why if someone who is completely new to gaming, who's only played SMG, who's never even heard of the first Mario game played it, he'd think it was terrible.
So then, let's look at this, many people might say the newer games are bad, but in reality, the nostalgia free truth is this:
SMG > SM64
LoZ: TP > OOT
ACCF > ACGC
That's just a few examples.

The main point is, Nintendo has not changed at all, so the only reason anyone can really dislike the newer games is one of the following:
1. Tastes have changed, with Nostalgia being the only thing keeping them clinged onto the older games
2. The game formula has become stale to them, so they are bored of them, with Nostalgia being the only thing keeping them clinged onto the older games

Personally, i'm a number 2, I can try to pick up and play Galaxy again, but i'd get bored of it quickly, but if I picked up SM64, i'd have fun just running around doing nothing at all.
However even so, i'll still buy Mario Galaxy 2 because despite that I will enjoy it.

You're simply assuming in that post that newer = better, which is simply not the case. Just because a game is more technically advanced to it's predecessor doesn't mean it's any more fun. Besides, how do you measure how "good" a game is? Review scores? Average enjoyment per capita? No, of course not. It's all down to opinion.

Example:
Many people consider SMB3 to be a better game than SMW. Higher difficulty, more powerups, whatever. Are those people BLINDED BY NOSTALGIA because the game is older? No, they just prefer that game.

More technically advanced =/= Automatically superior

 

[AnimalCrossingGurrl]

I don't think Nintendo has changed I think their direction has changed. It used to be about the consumer, just like with Macintosh but now its been sold out to the only care which is 'profit'.. But, I still have a little faith and hope for Nintendo.

 

[Tyeforce]

I don't think Nintendo has changed I think their direction has changed. It used to be about the consumer, just like with Macintosh but now its been sold out to the only care which is 'profit'.. But, I still have a little faith and hope for Nintendo.

It's still about the consumer, just as it always has been. Of course, it's always been about money, too, just like any other company out there. Without money, they wouldn't be able to make new products for the consumers. =p Anyway, I'd say that Nintendo is more about the consumer right now than they have ever been. They go to great lengths to benefit people's lives with games like Wii Fit Plus, and they also just allied with the American Heart Association. Nintendo wants to make people's lives better. Yes, they also want money, but you can't expect them to not want money.

 

[Nixie]

I don't think Nintendo has changed I think their direction has changed. It used to be about the consumer, just like with Macintosh but now its been sold out to the only care which is 'profit'.. But, I still have a little faith and hope for Nintendo.

It's still about the consumer, just as it always has been. Of course, it's always been about money, too, just like any other company out there. Without money, they wouldn't be able to make new products for the consumers. =p Anyway, I'd say that Nintendo is more about the consumer right now than they have ever been. They go to great lengths to benefit people's lives with games like Wii Fit Plus, and they also just allied with the American Heart Association. Nintendo wants to make people's lives better. Yes, they also want money, but you can't expect them to not want money.

The best thing is go outside and do exercise there... Fresh air do better good than a TV screen... :/

 

[Rawburt]

I don't think Nintendo has changed I think their direction has changed. It used to be about the consumer, just like with Macintosh but now its been sold out to the only care which is 'profit'.. But, I still have a little faith and hope for Nintendo.

It's still about the consumer, just as it always has been. Of course, it's always been about money, too, just like any other company out there. Without money, they wouldn't be able to make new products for the consumers. =p Anyway, I'd say that Nintendo is more about the consumer right now than they have ever been. They go to great lengths to benefit people's lives with games like Wii Fit Plus, and they also just allied with the American Heart Association. Nintendo wants to make people's lives better. Yes, they also want money, but you can't expect them to not want money.

The best thing is go outside and do exercise there... Fresh air do better good than a TV screen... :/

Nerds hate sunlight. =p

Going outside is better, but a lot of Nintendo's target audience with Wii Fit won't do it.

 

[Tyeforce]

I don't think Nintendo has changed I think their direction has changed. It used to be about the consumer, just like with Macintosh but now its been sold out to the only care which is 'profit'.. But, I still have a little faith and hope for Nintendo.

It's still about the consumer, just as it always has been. Of course, it's always been about money, too, just like any other company out there. Without money, they wouldn't be able to make new products for the consumers. =p Anyway, I'd say that Nintendo is more about the consumer right now than they have ever been. They go to great lengths to benefit people's lives with games like Wii Fit Plus, and they also just allied with the American Heart Association. Nintendo wants to make people's lives better. Yes, they also want money, but you can't expect them to not want money.

The best thing is go outside and do exercise there... Fresh air do better good than a TV screen... :/

Why does it matter if you're inside or outside, as long as you're getting exercise? Besides, Wii Fit Plus isn't mean to completely replace all other forms of activity, it's meant to complement them. Wii Fit Plus is perfect for people who want to exercise, but just don't know how to go about it on their own. I'll admit, I'm one of those people. For the most part, I can't exercise unless I have something telling me exactly what to do. Wii Fit Plus does that for me, plus it's also fun to play, and it actually gives me motivation to exercise. Though, I've been slacking and haven't played it in quite awhile...shame on me, lol.

 

[Nixie]

I don't think Nintendo has changed I think their direction has changed. It used to be about the consumer, just like with Macintosh but now its been sold out to the only care which is 'profit'.. But, I still have a little faith and hope for Nintendo.

It's still about the consumer, just as it always has been. Of course, it's always been about money, too, just like any other company out there. Without money, they wouldn't be able to make new products for the consumers. =p Anyway, I'd say that Nintendo is more about the consumer right now than they have ever been. They go to great lengths to benefit people's lives with games like Wii Fit Plus, and they also just allied with the American Heart Association. Nintendo wants to make people's lives better. Yes, they also want money, but you can't expect them to not want money.

The best thing is go outside and do exercise there... Fresh air do better good than a TV screen... :/

Why does it matter if you're inside or outside, as long as you're getting exercise? Besides, Wii Fit Plus isn't mean to completely replace all other forms of activity, it's meant to complement them. Wii Fit Plus is perfect for people who want to exercise, but just don't know how to go about it on their own. I'll admit, I'm one of those people. For the most part, I can't exercise unless I have something telling me exactly what to do. Wii Fit Plus does that for me, plus it's also fun to play, and it actually gives me motivation to exercise. Though, I've been slacking and haven't played it in quite awhile...shame on me, lol.

Ohh tye... *shakes head in shame x3* Uhh... go for a 5 hr hike in the welsh mountains and then go climb up trees there, your exercise plan for the day XD

@rawburt: Vampires hate the sun too ;D

 

[Prof Gallows]

I've noticed something.
Every time one of these arguments break and out someone goes off to list how Nintendo doesn't make crappy games, they always list the same four-five games over and over.

What I'm trying to get at is, if Nintendo doesn't make crappy games why are there only ever a few listed?

 

[-Aaron]

I don't think Nintendo has changed I think their direction has changed. It used to be about the consumer, just like with Macintosh but now its been sold out to the only care which is 'profit'.. But, I still have a little faith and hope for Nintendo.

It's still about the consumer, just as it always has been. Of course, it's always been about money, too, just like any other company out there. Without money, they wouldn't be able to make new products for the consumers. =p Anyway, I'd say that Nintendo is more about the consumer right now than they have ever been. They go to great lengths to benefit people's lives with games like Wii Fit Plus, and they also just allied with the American Heart Association. Nintendo wants to make people's lives better. Yes, they also want money, but you can't expect them to not want money.

The best thing is go outside and do exercise there... Fresh air do better good than a TV screen... :/

Why does it matter if you're inside or outside, as long as you're getting exercise? Besides, Wii Fit Plus isn't mean to completely replace all other forms of activity, it's meant to complement them. Wii Fit Plus is perfect for people who want to exercise, but just don't know how to go about it on their own. I'll admit, I'm one of those people. For the most part, I can't exercise unless I have something telling me exactly what to do. Wii Fit Plus does that for me, plus it's also fun to play, and it actually gives me motivation to exercise. Though, I've been slacking and haven't played it in quite awhile...shame on me, lol.

So Wii Music is supposed to complement real instrument playing?
Wii Sports is supposed to complement actual sports?
Wii Play is supposed to complement air hockey? Fishing? Going to a farm?
Nothing beats the real deal. Also, it's called a gym.

 

[Micah]

Sunshine is my favorite Mario game but it isn't listed as one of the better Mario games because it was untraditional and (a little bit) innovative.

Same goes for other games in their respective series. Nintendo doesn't just make great games...they've made some of the greatest game franchises ever.

 

[Tyeforce]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepnot want money.

The best thing is go outside and do exercise there... Fresh air do better good than a TV screen... :/

Why does it matter if you're inside or outside, as long as you're getting exercise? Besides, Wii Fit Plus isn't mean to completely replace all other forms of activity, it's meant to complement them. Wii Fit Plus is perfect for people who want to exercise, but just don't know how to go about it on their own. I'll admit, I'm one of those people. For the most part, I can't exercise unless I have something telling me exactly what to do. Wii Fit Plus does that for me, plus it's also fun to play, and it actually gives me motivation to exercise. Though, I've been slacking and haven't played it in quite awhile...shame on me, lol.

Ohh tye... *shakes head in shame x3* Uhh... go for a 5 hr hike in the welsh mountains and then go climb up trees there, your exercise plan for the day XD

@rawburt: Vampires hate the sun too ;D

I go for an hour to two hour walk every night with my boyfriend, and I get plenty of exercise from other activities, including, but not limited to, acting like a crazy maniac at times. So don't tell me that I don't go outside and exercise. I do need to start playing Wii Fit Plus again, though.

 

[Nixie]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepnot

Why does it matter if you're inside or outside, as long as you're getting exercise? Besides, Wii Fit Plus isn't mean to completely replace all other forms of activity, it's meant to complement them. Wii Fit Plus is perfect for people who want to exercise, but just don't know how to go about it on their own. I'll admit, I'm one of those people. For the most part, I can't exercise unless I have something telling me exactly what to do. Wii Fit Plus does that for me, plus it's also fun to play, and it actually gives me motivation to exercise. Though, I've been slacking and haven't played it in quite awhile...shame on me, lol.

Ohh tye... *shakes head in shame x3* Uhh... go for a 5 hr hike in the welsh mountains and then go climb up trees there, your exercise plan for the day XD

@rawburt: Vampires hate the sun too ;D

I go for an hour to two hour walk every night with my boyfriend, and I get plenty of exercise from other activities, including, but not limited to, acting like a crazy maniac at times. So don't tell me that I don't go outside and exercise. I do need to start playing Wii Fit Plus again, though.

When did I ever say that? did I ever say that?

 

[Tyeforce]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepnot want money.

The best thing is go outside and do exercise there... Fresh air do better good than a TV screen... :/

Why does it matter if you're inside or outside, as long as you're getting exercise? Besides, Wii Fit Plus isn't mean to completely replace all other forms of activity, it's meant to complement them. Wii Fit Plus is perfect for people who want to exercise, but just don't know how to go about it on their own. I'll admit, I'm one of those people. For the most part, I can't exercise unless I have something telling me exactly what to do. Wii Fit Plus does that for me, plus it's also fun to play, and it actually gives me motivation to exercise. Though, I've been slacking and haven't played it in quite awhile...shame on me, lol.

So Wii Music is supposed to complement real instrument playing?
Wii Sports is supposed to complement actual sports?
Wii Play is supposed to complement air hockey? Fishing? Going to a farm?

I didn't say that, did I? I said Wii Fit Plus. While Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort can also provide physical activity and exercise, they're not made specifically for it like Wii Fit and Wii Fit Plus.

 

[Tyeforce]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepnot

Ohh tye... *shakes head in shame x3* Uhh... go for a 5 hr hike in the welsh mountains and then go climb up trees there, your exercise plan for the day XD

@rawburt: Vampires hate the sun too ;D

I go for an hour to two hour walk every night with my boyfriend, and I get plenty of exercise from other activities, including, but not limited to, acting like a crazy maniac at times. So don't tell me that I don't go outside and exercise. I do need to start playing Wii Fit Plus again, though.

When did I ever say that? did I ever say that?

You "shook your head in shame". That's what I took that as. XD

 

[-Aaron]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepnot

I go for an hour to two hour walk every night with my boyfriend, and I get plenty of exercise from other activities, including, but not limited to, acting like a crazy maniac at times. So don't tell me that I don't go outside and exercise. I do need to start playing Wii Fit Plus again, though.

When did I ever say that? did I ever say that?

You "shook your head in shame". That's what I took that as. XD

>They go to great lengths to benefit people's lives

Some great benefit they give to people's lives. If they were about the people, they wouldn't make games that simulate playing instruments and playing sports. Instead, they should just endorse going outside.

EDIT: Whoops, wrong quote.

 

[Tyeforce]

I've noticed something.
Every time one of these arguments break and out someone goes off to list how Nintendo doesn't make crappy games, they always list the same four-five games over and over.

What I'm trying to get at is, if Nintendo doesn't make crappy games why are there only ever a few listed?

It's funny, because I notice the same about the other video game companies, except they're mostly all from the same genre.

You want a list? Here's a list of great games.

Wii
Animal Crossing: City Folk
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Link's Crossbow Training
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
Mario Kart Wii
Metroid Prime: Trilogy
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Pok