What part of TBT annoys you?

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16. Does it matter? We're all young. Not sure why we argue about such nonsense.

i'm pretty sure nvll is like 21 (which is like grandma age smh) but i agree arguing about ages isn't going to help anyone. if anyone takes my grandma age joke seriously is2g
 
It was a joke Bowie pls

Just saying. We're all (well, the majority of us) young. We all love video games, and we're here talking to one another. No reason to argue about nonsensical garbage like age differences. Cool.
 
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why is the non-acnl gaming like smash/pokes so dead now????

Funny you mention Smash, I haven't really noticed that being lively in a while. But not all games possess replayability like those two do. Pokemon is casual enough for anyone to pickup and play repeatedly and there's a lot there for diehard fans like IV Breeding, Shiny Hunting and the like. Games like Zelda or Super Mario 3D Land, not so much as if you've beaten it once there's not much of a reason to revisit it.
 
I laughed at the 'we're all young' comment ;) I feel old now...I'm not too far off 30 :(

Notifications to replies would be great, I have to keep sending visitor messages as I know I'll forget to look at my threads. Always feel
Ignorant if I don't reply by not checking back when I'm obviously online.
 
1. Why would they want to accept real money transactions for digital items they make on programs they can use for free?
Art commissions are jobs. You have to put time and effort in, buy the necessary equipment and have experience. It's not like artists pick up a pen and just create art, you have to put hours and hours of effort in, let alone the struggles of lack of self confidence in your artwork, having enough confidence to post your art, and the feeling of constantly being compared to other artists. You also have to bare in mind that even if you can draw yourself, you might see someone else's art style that you like that's different to your own. Its like someone saying to you "you could write that yourself" when you read a fiction book. Also, some people like collecting art, like collecting figures or stamps. It's not "digital items they make on programs they can use for free", its spending time and effort creating something that they are happy with.
2. Why do most artists these days stop accepting TBT and would rather get RLC? I kinda hate it that art shops rarely accept TBT anymore (even if you have a lot of it). Yeah, there are art shops that still accept TBT, but the RLC trend is getting bigger. Why is that?
Short answer: TBT has no real life value for your time and effort. It's good when you just need some quick currency to buy something on the site, but otherwise it has no value to you. Buying with RLC means you are directly supporting the artist.
Long answer: Whilst TBT is good as it is an AC site at heart, you have to understand that generally, people don't want fake currency for something that they could earn real money for. It's like trying to pay for something with Monopoly money. Whilst it has value in one instance, anywhere else it's worthless. Even if you're under 18, and can't get a PayPal or credit card (though, a lot of banks in the UK offer "under 18" accounts that work exactly the same as other accounts, and you can make a paypal with this) there are work-arounds such as using DeviantArt points, which can be converted back into real currency if you wish. Whilst I understand that on an Animal Crossing site people want to buy art with the currency there instead of using RLC, but you need to understand that people need money.

I know these have already been answered, but I wanted to put input from my view as an artist that doesn't really want to use TBT anymore :)
 
I know these have already been answered, but I wanted to put input from my view as an artist that doesn't really want to use TBT anymore :)

Over time, I found some other possible reasons why there is an increasing trend of artists accepting RLC and not TBT.

1. The TBT supply has dropped. With less rich members browsing the site anymore, there isn't much TBT in circulation, making it harder to earn a lot more TBT for your hard work on the art.

2. Someone on another site best explained this reasoning, at least in response to my complaint about how millennials (born 1980 to 1995) have matured slowly compared to their older generations and why they support socialism. He/she said that "they live in a time when college is an expectation rather than a bonus, and when college is more expensive than ever before, and people wouldn't hire them because they don't have enough experience, and that there are less job openings because of how older people are less likely to retire". What he basically tried to say is that in these times, college has gotten much more expensive and there's hardly a job available because they are required to go to college and get a really high degree. With no way to make money, it could possibly be the reason why artists on this site these days only accept RLC. It's to afford college instead of taking in more student loans. And Bell Tree is primarily dominated by millennials, which are still trying to go to college to get a better job.
 
Art commissions are jobs. You have to put time and effort in, buy the necessary equipment and have experience. It's not like artists pick up a pen and just create art, you have to put hours and hours of effort in, let alone the struggles of lack of self confidence in your artwork, having enough confidence to post your art, and the feeling of constantly being compared to other artists. You also have to bare in mind that even if you can draw yourself, you might see someone else's art style that you like that's different to your own. Its like someone saying to you "you could write that yourself" when you read a fiction book. Also, some people like collecting art, like collecting figures or stamps. It's not "digital items they make on programs they can use for free", its spending time and effort creating something that they are happy with.

Short answer: TBT has no real life value for your time and effort. It's good when you just need some quick currency to buy something on the site, but otherwise it has no value to you. Buying with RLC means you are directly supporting the artist.
Long answer: Whilst TBT is good as it is an AC site at heart, you have to understand that generally, people don't want fake currency for something that they could earn real money for. It's like trying to pay for something with Monopoly money. Whilst it has value in one instance, anywhere else it's worthless. Even if you're under 18, and can't get a PayPal or credit card (though, a lot of banks in the UK offer "under 18" accounts that work exactly the same as other accounts, and you can make a paypal with this) there are work-arounds such as using DeviantArt points, which can be converted back into real currency if you wish. Whilst I understand that on an Animal Crossing site people want to buy art with the currency there instead of using RLC, but you need to understand that people need money.

I know these have already been answered, but I wanted to put input from my view as an artist that doesn't really want to use TBT anymore :)

As a Graphic Design student, I totally understand the feeling of not being appreciated for the work created because it is seen as art and for whatever reason, art is deemed as being easy to create. My teacher told the entire class that because you have paid to learn how to do it, paid for the proper supplies and put the time and effort in, you should not be expected to work for free, unless of course, you're doing a co-op or something. You wouldn't not pay a handyman or a doctor for their services. If you don't wanna pay for, say, a logo, then you can create a ****ty one yourself. I have stuff to do.
 
The political part of this site, no one respects each other's opinion, can't wait until this election is over
 
As a Graphic Design student, I totally understand the feeling of not being appreciated for the work created because it is seen as art and for whatever reason, art is deemed as being easy to create. My teacher told the entire class that because you have paid to learn how to do it, paid for the proper supplies and put the time and effort in, you should not be expected to work for free, unless of course, you're doing a co-op or something. You wouldn't not pay a handyman or a doctor for their services. If you don't wanna pay for, say, a logo, then you can create a ****ty one yourself. I have stuff to do.

Look, the subject on RLC vs TBT as cash payments is over. It's been answered a while back, and I kinda hate it when people bring up an old subject on this site and continue to discuss it. I have to admit being guilty of this too when I brought up the giveaway thread on my blog and how people treated me there, but when something is addressed, it's over. Let's just move on and stop talking about the art payments.

The political part of this site, no one respects each other's opinion, can't wait until this election is over

Other than the more immature members (I won't be specific about it), people on this site can respect others' opinions on anything, even politics. They just don't respect opinions said rudely. Saying that Hillary is bad is one thing, but by all standards, it's unacceptable to compare anyone to Hitler, even if it's a more logical comparison. So if you want people to respect your opinion, please be civil about it and avoid offensive statements. It would also be best to cite sources from trustworthy sites to have a stronger opinion.
 
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The clubs creep me out. I joined a Skype group one, and I pretty much walked into random people talking trash about other users. Fortunately, I got thrown out because they didn't know who I was. Never bothered trying to get back in.
 
All the people who won't shut up about SJWs and Tumblr

Look, the subject on RLC vs TBT as cash payments is over. It's been answered a while back, and I kinda hate it when people bring up an old subject on this site and continue to discuss it. I have to admit being guilty of this too when I brought up the giveaway thread on my blog and how people treated me there, but when something is addressed, it's over. Let's just move on and stop talking about the art payments.

Since when were you authority on what people can or can't talk about?
 
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