What gender are you?

[oath2order]

Urban dictionary is actually a pretty great source all things considered. My response was more to the answer I received. This stuff is weird.

Oh.

Well thats very true

 

[ShinyYoshi]

What

She literally just said it's "not her job" to learn about other people.

It's a bit petty to say people "always want to whine and be offended" and to bring up political correctness.

That's not even what she was saying. You're only reading bits and pieces.
Whoever she was trying to have a convo with kept giving out rude replies and saying "it's not my job to educate you on the subject" and TapDancer responded saying that that kind of behavior makes people then think it's not "their job" to care about other people if they're only going to reply with rude comments.

And Dancer also said there's always "someone" that wants to complain and whine. Not "all people" want to complain and whine. Quit twisting people's words just to start more flame wars.

 

[EmmaFrost]

That's not even what she was saying. You're only reading bits and pieces.
Whoever she was trying to have a convo with kept giving out rude replies and saying "it's not my job to educate you on the subject" and TapDancer responded saying that that kind of behavior makes people then think it's not "their job" to care about other people if they're only going to reply with rude comments.

And Dancer also said there's always "someone" that wants to complain and whine. Not "all people" want to complain and whine. Quit twisting people's words just to start more flame wars.

Oh you're right because I left out this charming part right here. Nope, this isn't rude at all:
"I grew up knowing male and female. Sexuality means you're either straight, gay, bi, or asexual. As far as I'm concerned, that's still all there is."

That isn't twisting anything and it shows she has no business in this thread. Bye.

 

[ShinyYoshi]

Oh you're right because I left out this charming part right here. Nope, this isn't rude at all:
"I grew up knowing male and female. Sexuality means you're either straight, gay, bi, or asexual. As far as I'm concerned, that's still all there is."

That isn't twisting anything and it shows she has no business in this thread. Bye.

Yeah, that part isn't nice, but she already said she won't be coming back, so what's the point in being rude to someone who can't even defend themselves?

There's no reason to get so upset over someone else's opinion that won't even come back to say anything else. All it does is just cause more upset than there already is.

 

[EmmaFrost]

Yeah, that part isn't nice, but she already said she won't be coming back, so what's the point in being rude to someone who can't even defend themselves?

There's no reason to get so upset over someone else's opinion that won't even come back to say anything else. All it does is just cause more upset than there already is.

By the same token, there's no reason to defend someone else who has an admittedly (by you) not nice opinion when she won't be coming back.

 

[ShinyYoshi]

By the same token, there's no reason to defend someone else who has an admittedly (by you) not nice opinion when she won't be coming back.

I wasn't trying to defend her as much as I was trying to say that just taking someone's posts and twisting their words doesn't do anyone favors, especially when that person won't even be posting anymore.

I'm honestly not very educated on this subject, and I was using this thread to try and learn some things. But it's getting harder when people are just throwing insults instead of trying to help people understand what's going on.

 

[Tao]

By the same token, there's no reason to defend someone else who has an admittedly (by you) not nice opinion when she won't be coming back.

They weren't nice opinions but on the other hand (as somebody else who was trying to learn something new), I can see very much how they just thought "I don't even care anymore".

It's like people complain about people not educating themselves but get moody and defensive when people try to do so.

 

[Fhyn_K]

Just went through the entire thread and read great points from a good many angles. I hope that the tone of the conversation can direct in a more constructive direction because even with all that is being said, this so far is going pretty well.

 

[Caius]

I wasn't trying to defend her as much as I was trying to say that just taking someone's posts and twisting their words doesn't do anyone favors, especially when that person won't even be posting anymore.

I'm honestly not very educated on this subject, and I was using this thread to try and learn some things. But it's getting harder when people are just throwing insults instead of trying to help people understand what's going on.

Save yourself some time and just find Jake's word-vomit post. It was pretty top notch.

 

[infinikitten]

The thing about this is that even when you're trying to learn, you can still definitely phrase questions in unintentionally gross ways. We all have to be mindful of our wording. If somebody who's new to all this "more than two genders" business comes into the thread and says, like whoever said it earlier, that every other identity is "made up on the internet" or blames Tumblr for it or whatever ridiculous nonsense, asking a question afterward... I mean, it won't be taken as being asked in good faith. Everyone will already have their hackles up and assume you're being hurtful on purpose.

I know a lot of people don't view anger as productive or an acceptable response to things, but think about it. Please just stop and think about it - people who've had their very being invalidated over and over again are, once again, being insulted and feeling attacked in this thread (though this one is MILES ahead of the other one and I still applaud each and every one of you who's trying to keep it quality! thank you ♥) so it makes sense for them not to feel like they have to answer with perfect manners and kindness. Anger is a valid response to some of the things that have been said both in this thread and elsewhere. Is it productive? Maybe not for others, but marginalized people still need to get their feelings out. Keep in mind that when you feel hurt by their anger, you're feeling just a fraction of what they're feeling pretty much constantly due to the general public's stance on anyone who's not strictly binary and cisgender.

I have a hard time expressing my own anger, but if somebody were to, say, interrupt me over and over again while we were having an IRL discusssion, I know they're not meaning to be rude but it's still a rude thing. Am I making sense? (Probably not. Sorry.) Or if I was dancing with someone and they kept stepping on my toes, they could only say sorry so many times before I'd call it quits; it's an accident, but it still causes pain.

Emotions will flare up during these kinds of discussions... it happens... I just think those who aren't up to speed on everything could exercise a little more patience. I know I would really appreciate it myself, even if I only duck my head in here every couple days, you know? ♥

Anyway, I'll stop rambling, haha. Back to your regularly scheduled programming~

 

[Lazybones]

nevermind please forget I ever said anything

 

[Moddie]

asexual female here! c:

I'm asexual too, but I don't see how that's relevant to this thread.

 

[Alienfish]

Female, despite many people being surprised and thinking I'm male or whatever. Might be because I'm pretty much a tomboy and not girly at all.

 

[Nebulaquatic]

I'm asexual too, but I don't see how that's relevant to this thread.

they could have gotten asexual mixed up with agender​

 

[Moddie]

they could have gotten asexual mixed up with agender​

Yeah, probably.

 

[DarkFox7]

Female. c:

 

[oath2order]

Or maybe she just wanted to say her sexuality

 

[Moddie]

Or maybe she just wanted to say her sexuality

Maybe, but that's a strange thing to say out of the blue on a thread about gender.

 

[inkling]

im a girl. Though I have felt like a boy many times in my life. Also, I am interested in the similarities between males and females. I am also into the androgynous look. But I am a girl and I love it! I would never want a penis.

edit: I know I read the other posts and apparently genitalia has nothing to do with gender identity. But still, I would not want that thing! This is also why yes, I felt like a boy a lot of days. Especially when I was little. These feelings are complicated, but in the end I am most comfortable with identifying as female. It might be my age? I don't know. I know I would definitely feel extremely wrong and uncomfortable identifying as anything else. Also, I feel like words can never represent us fully. Things are more like in the air. And stuff.

 

[oath2order]

No its really not